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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:39 PM
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***Kerry Calls On Senate to Set One Year Deadline for US Troops to Leave Iraq***
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 01:14 PM by whometense
Press release from a noon press conference:

Kerry Calls On Senate to Set One Year Deadline for US Troops to Leave Iraq



Says Diplomatic Initiative, Firm Benchmarks for Iraqi Leaders Must be Part of Strategy





WASHINGTON, DC – Sen. John Kerry today said he is introducing legislation that would include many of the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group and set a firm deadline for the withdrawal of most U.S. troops from Iraq. Kerry said the other key elements of his bill are: launching a major diplomatic initiative, enforcing a series of benchmarks for meeting key political objectives, shifting the military mission to training Iraqi security forces and counter-terrorism operations, and maintaining on over the horizon presence to protect U.S. regional interests.



“The only people who believe there is a workable military solution for the conflict in Iraq is The Bush Administration,” Kerry said. “We must find a way to force the Iraqi politicians to make the tough compromises necessary to find a sustainable political solution. It’s time to sponsor a regional effort aimed at using diplomacy to achieve peace. We can’t pull the plug on our efforts in Iraq overnight, nor can we endlessly debate continuing the status quo into the next decade. My plan offers a rock solid deadline that forces Iraqis to step up their responsibilities while redirecting the mission of US troops to training, counter-terrorism and force protection.”



“The president is asking Congress to approve another $245 billion to pay for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have little to show for our effort in Iraq and the president and Republicans in Congress are attempting to prevent us from debating this issue on the floor of the Senate. The American people aren’t interested in 60-vote minimums. They want to see the leaders in Washington have a plan for moving our brave men and women out of the chaotic civil war in Iraq.”



The legislation is based on Kerry’s bill from last year, which also called for creating a firm one year deadline for the redeployment of U.S. troops from Iraq, leaving only the minimum number necessary to complete the training of Iraqi security forces, go after terrorists, and protect United States facilities and personnel. In December, the Iraq Study Group set a goal of withdrawing United States combat forces from Iraq within a year. This date was based upon the timeframe for transferring responsibility to Iraqi security forces set forth by George W. Casey Jr., and on the schedule agreed upon by the Iraqi government for achieving key political and security objectives. It is also consistent with the President’s stated objective, worked out with the Iraqi government, of transferring full security responsibility to the Iraqis by November of 2007. Senator Kerry continues to believe that setting a firm one year deadline is necessary to make that goal a reality.



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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:53 PM
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1. So did they show the press conference or was it not televised? n/t
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:01 PM
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3. I'm swamped at work, so I don't know.
My guess?? NO. But I'll try to find out.

Link here: http://www.johnkerry.com/news/releases/release.html?id=66
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:00 PM
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2. This is excellent!
November 2007!

Time to get out!
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:05 PM
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4. Why the hell does he want the troops there for another year?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:17 PM
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6. It is reckless and dangerous to pull out immediately. Besides, any
redeployment of our troops is going to take some time to coordinate.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:50 PM
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15. What was reckless and dangerous was giving bush the IWR.
The troops need to come home now. Within a few months, not a year.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:53 PM
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17. Which person has said to pull them out within a few months?
Nobody that I know of. Frankly, had the Levins and the Clinton's listened to Kerry and Murtha almost a year ago at this time, then they would have been home by now. And even last spring, Kerry and Feingold took crap for daring to present a better alternative than the Clinton/Levin/Reid bill.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:54 PM
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18. Within a few months is November 2007, that's 10 month to complete withdrawal. n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:35 PM
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31. Logistics alone is at least 6months. And IWR didn'tr send us to war. IWR was
working to prove war was not needed, so Bush LIED us into it.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:25 PM
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7. Logistics - practical logistics alone is at least 6 months nomatter what - but at this point
this is the most DOABLE legislation going that could bridge the out now (which still means min. 6m) and those looking to be out by mid2008. Difference is that Kerry has the military knowhow to craft a practical plan and the antiwar heart and soul to factor in urgency.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:29 PM
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8. Doable legislation?
Considering that a nonbinding resolution can't even make it to a vote, what are the chances that Kerry's bill would?
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:54 PM
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19. So you think they should do nothing rather than present the Bill WE Want?
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:41 PM
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10. I don't think he does.
But, there are realities that have to be faced.

And, as much as I support Kerry AND want the troops to start coming home NOW - the fact is I have a very pessimistic view that ANY sensible action will happen in Iraq given the current makeup of our government. I hope my fellow Kerry fans will understand and forgive the following, but to me it is ALL "political theatre" - calculated by the presenter (Kerry in this case) to stoke the public dialogue to improve the chances of some real positive action happening. No one should be deluded that any of these bills stand much chance of passing, or if they somehow pass, that the Bush Administration would actually adhere to them. But it is something to build the conversation around that can eventually get us to the point of beginning to withdraw our troops from Iraq, and I think that in today's political climate, talking about a deadline a year from now - which allows some practical planning and implementation time - is a more realistic conversation builder than "out now."

JMHO though... I don't think anyone has yet solved the riddle of how we make it happen (ending the war that is), because if they have, why are our troops still there?
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:11 PM
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12. I totally agree.
Considering the dent the "crazy" Kerry-Feingold bill made in the senate's consciousness since it was shot down over 6 months ago, I'd say that's exactly what he's doing. He's doing what he can to carry through on the promise he made a few weeks ago when he said he wasn't running for president.

After watching the antics that took place on the senate floor yesterday, I'd say that political theater is all that has any chance of changing things.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:15 PM
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5. Alright Senator Kerry! The public has had enough of this mismanaged war
and the deaths of our brave soldiers. Time to start acting to bring our soldiers home and actually making our country more secure.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:29 PM
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9. Good
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:04 PM
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11. kick and rec n/t
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:58 PM
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13. Not. One. More. Day.
Another year, another 1,000 U.S. soldiers dead, another 150K Iraqis killed.

For what????

I'm so sick of Kerry's B.S.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:01 PM
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14. So whose b.s. do you approve of? This is the earliest withdrawal
date I've heard from any senator. Enlighten me on who might have a better timetable.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:50 PM
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16. Even Kucinich hasn't said, "Not. One. More. Day..."
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 03:51 PM by ray of light
And I'd say Kucinich is the farthest 'left' of all of them still running.

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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 04:22 PM
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22. Who cares? Cindy Sheehan has said it. Code Pink has said it.
Countless bloggers have said it.

The American people screamed it loud and clear on November 7.

Our representatives need to WAKE UP!
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 04:21 PM
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21. You need enlightening?
Senator Feingold, for one of many. Senator Obama, for another. Congressman Conyers, for another. And on, and on, and on...
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 04:30 PM
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23. Feingold has a shorter interval, but Obama doesn't
Neither are saying out now.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:18 AM
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34. The Kerry type of approach is captured in a Warner Brothers cartoon:
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 09:37 AM by Seabiscuit
Every year, since 2005, Kerry, or some other Senator or Congressmen makes a speech about how Bush *must* withdraw all troops from Iraq/redeploy within 6 months or a year. And every year their deadlines pass and they make more speeches saying the same thing. By now, 2 years have passed, Kerry makes another speech, and the war just marches on.

Warner Brothers captured this phenomenon in a cartoon with Bugs Bunny and Yosemite Sam out on the desert sand. Yosemite Sam has a stick and draws a line in the sand and tells Bugs: "I dare you to step over this line, varmint!" Bugs steps over the line. What does Sam do? He backs up and draws another line and repeats the warning. Bugs steps over the line. Every time Sam says "over this line" Bugs steps over the line. On and on, over and over again, across the desert and into the sunset.

Meanwhile 47 Republican Senators are filibustering to block a nonbinding resolution of disapproval of Bush's current Iraq "surge".

We need a lot more than grandstanding speeches right now. People are dying every day.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:56 AM
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36. Extremely unfair
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 12:01 PM by karynnj
Senator Kerry, like Senator Feingold, does not have the power to end the war. What they have done is put out sensible plans to get out of Iraq.

They did this against the wishes of the Senate Democratic leadership - who wanted to do nothing in 2006. Would we have done as well in 2006 without having those 2 amendments - even if they lost? Would as much of the country be in agreement that we need to get out within a year?

Read Kerry's speech - he speaks of lost chances. In the past, he spoke of options, earlier recommended, no longer being viable. He is doing his job and has payed a price (as had Feingold) for challanging the party leaders. Senator Kerry is the Chair of the SRFC that has juristiction over that part of the world.

Would you prefer he stay silent or give his best ideas on what to do now? Consider that many of his 2004 and 2005 ideas became almost verbatim the ISG recommendations, obviously not labeled as Kerry's. If Bush ever decides to go for an alternative approach, it may well be influenced by Senator Kerry's recommendations. (and no, they will not be credited.)
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 04:32 PM
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24. Links? Bill numbers?
My understanding is that what Obama is proposing is a "goal" not a deadline.

Feingold cosponsored Kerry's amendment last June (that only about a dozen other Senators voted for, and on which Reid relegated debate to the middle of the night). Perhaps Feingold has offered legislation that is more aggressive than Kerry's - I wouldn't be surprised - can you give me the bill number though?

Conyers? I am not aware of what he has proposed. Again, a bill number would be nice.

Apologies for my denseness.

All that said, I think it is important to have several options, and pass the most aggressive withdrawal plan we can. If we can pass an "out now" bill, that's great. But I don't think we can.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 04:16 PM
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20. C'mon Republicans, there is Kerry's plan on the table!
Let's debate it and vote on it!

Paging Mitch McConnell... John Warner... Is there anyone down range?
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 04:39 PM
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25. Actually, Warner debated Kerry last year--one of the rare debates
during the last five years.

However, Warner, McConnell, McCain deserve to be picked on for their automatic partison votes instead of picking on the person (or people) who are actually doing what the American public wants.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 05:20 PM
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26. Kerry on C-Span 2, really lay it out! n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 05:40 PM
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27. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 05:43 PM
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28. Block Funding and Get the frick out of there
Get a Brain
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 05:44 PM
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29. Senator Kerry continues to lead.
Go John Kerry!
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 05:47 PM
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30. Thank God for statesmen like John Kerry!
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:19 PM
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32. i demand a 24 hour deadline!!!
the fiasco needs to end now now now now now now!!!!
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:33 AM
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35. See:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:58 AM
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37. Twice in one thread, so I'll counter, see:
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:17 PM
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38. Sounds like you want to argue.
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 12:17 PM by Seabiscuit
Sorry. Not interested. I've stated my position. You've stated yours. Miles apart.

BTW, I was speaking to Scarface, not you.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:42 AM
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33. Kick!
:kick: for Senator Kerry!
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 01:24 PM
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39. No,Kerry
now is t he time for all good people to come to the aide of the men and women fighting this wrongheaded war.
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