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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:31 PM
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Ex-border agent beaten in prison, family says
Family members of Ignacio Ramos, the former El Paso Border Patrol agent imprisoned for shooting a drug smuggler in the buttocks and not reporting it, said Ramos was beat up by other inmates Saturday.

Ramos, who is locked up in a federal prison in Yazoo City, Miss., was then put in solitary, his father-in-law Joe Loya reported today. Loya said the other inmates recognized Ramos from a segment about the case on the television show America's Most Wanted.

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http://www.elpasotimes.com/breakingnews/ci_5162707
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:33 PM
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1. I've heard our Minister of Torture was mixed up in prosecuting these guys..
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:34 PM
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2. Lou Dobbs had wanted those two guys pardoned.
The families had been afraid this would happen.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:44 PM
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3. Ramos should have been in PC!!! This was bound to happen.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:01 AM
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4. They broke the law, but yes, they should be housed separately.
Here is information you will not hear from Lou Dobbs on this matter, and it personally makes me question his ability to report a story:
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/2007/Compean_Ramos_factsheet1.pdf

This is information that has not appeared on Mr. Dobbs' television program, and would indeed change the minds of many who've side with him, including myself before I saw that information.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:53 PM
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10. thanks for posting this..
I'm sick and damned tired of the bullshit support for these two agents. They broke the law and should pay the penalty. They should, however, have not been placed with the GP.
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 07:26 AM
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5. It is criminal negligence on the Warden's part to have former law enforcement in General pop
He should be fired and arrested for negligence.

I don't like corrupt cops AT ALL, and think that in a perfect world, they would get stiffer sentances for misconduct than the population at large, since we should hold them to a higher standard and to insure integrity, but I am not for throwing them into general pop as revenge....well, not usually :evilgrin:
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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 07:48 AM
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6. I have zero sympathy
I have zero sympathy for those who make war on their fellow citizens in "the land of the free".

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0818/p02s01-usju.html

US notches world's highest incarceration rate

A report highlights extent to which many citizens have served time in prison.

By Gail Russell Chaddock | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

WASHINGTON – More than 5.6 million Americans are in prison or have served time there, according to a new report by the Justice Department released Sunday. That's 1 in 37 adults living in the United States, the highest incarceration level in the world.
It's the first time the US government has released estimates of the extent of imprisonment, and the report's statistics have broad implications for everything from state fiscal crises to how other nations view the American experience.

If current trends continue, it means that a black male in the United States would have about a 1 in 3 chance of going to prison during his lifetime. For a Hispanic male, it's 1 in 6; for a white male, 1 in 17.

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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:34 AM
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8. Ignacio Ramos isn't making war on US citizens if that is what you are suggesting.
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:32 AM
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7. I wonder if he would have been busted like this if he shot a fleeing black man on an L.A. street
He's being made into an example.
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:20 PM
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9. Hey, everybody knows black guys are deadly shots..........
while running away from law enforcement unarmed. More cops get shot by black guys running away than in any other scenario. That's why all those shootings are declared justified.
:sarcasm:just isn't enough.
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