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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 03:49 AM
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Fierce firefight rages in central Baghdad(Haifa Street...& Shia bodies found hanging)
Edited on Tue Jan-09-07 04:03 AM by maddezmom
BAGHDAD (AFP) - A fierce firefight marked by a steady barrage of mortar and machine-gun fire raged across central Baghdad as Iraq and US forces launched a crackdown against Sunni insurgents.

Iraqi troops were being backed by US fighter jets and military helicopters, which hovered above the capital's notorious Sunni neighbourhood of Haifa Street where the battle was centered, the US military and witnesses said.

Skirmishes began in the early hours of Tuesday and by daylight had grown into a heated firefight, forcing residents to steer clear of key roads.

The US military said soldiers from the 1st Brigade, 6th Iraqi army division with support from coalition forces "are conducting targeted raids to capture multiple targets, disrupt insurgent activity and restore Iraqi security forces' control of north Haifa Street."

"This area has been subject to insurgent activity which has repeatedly disrupted Iraqi security force operation in central Baghdad," Lieutenant Colonel Scott Bleichwehl said in the statement

more:http://uk.news.yahoo.com/09012007/323/fierce-firefight-rages-central-baghdad.html


Iraqi forces battle gunmen in Baghdad

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqi soldiers backed by U.S. troops battled gunmen in central Baghdad early Tuesday, and explosions were heard in the area, police and witnesses said.

Police said the clashes erupted when gunmen attacked Iraqi army checkpoints in the Haifa Street area, and that Iraqi soldiers appealed to the U.S. military for help. American forces sealed off roads and joined Iraqi troops in raiding houses in pursuit of the gunmen, police said.

The Iraqi defense ministry issued a statement saying eleven people were arrested, including seven Syrians.

The U.S. military said in an e-mail that its troops "continue to conduct clearing operations in Baghdad and throughout Iraq," and that it would release more information on the Haifa Street clashes later Tuesday.

more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070109/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_violence_10


perhaps related to this?

Shia hostages hanged in streets in revenge for Saddam's execution
By Aqeel Hussein in Baghdad and Damien McElroy
Last Updated: 1:56am GMT 09/01/2007


Saddam Hussein's execution has inspired a gruesome cycle of revenge, with scores of Shia Muslims found hanged from lampposts in Baghdad.

The residents of the city's Haifa Street will long remember the events of Sunday morning. As shop owners raised their shutters and stall holders set out their stock, three minibuses roared to a halt.

Gunmen jumped out and pulled blindfolded prisoners on to the street. Ropes were tied to lampposts and electricity poles. Those hostages who resisted were shot. Others who were still alive had nooses tied around their necks and were then suspended in mid air to choke to death.

~snip~

Capt Mohammad Salim, of the interior ministry, said: "We have gathered 102 Shia bodies and believe that 90 per cent of them were taken hostage for Saddam Hussein's execution and then found hanging from poles by ropes."

The discoveries were not limited to Haifa Street. People murdered in the same way had been found in Al Doura district and Amriya, in western Baghdad.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/09/wiraq09.xml
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 03:54 AM
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1. so, the Iraqi army asked the US military to help.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 04:00 AM
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4. Does this mean the (Iraqis) haven't stood up yet?
Well, since the repubs stop using that meme, I guess they won't have to stand up anymore.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:09 AM
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20. Oh, they're standing up, all right
They are standing up in militias to whom they are loyal and for whom they will fight. They are NOT standing up to fight on behalf of the puppet government which we have installed in the Green Zone and anyone who thinks they ever will (neo-con rats) is delusional....but we already knew that.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 10:19 AM
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29. then found hanging from poles by ropes (hanging up)
LOL
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 03:56 AM
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2. ...just another day in Iraq
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 03:59 AM
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3. And Dear Leader is DELUDED enough to believe that we would
Edited on Tue Jan-09-07 04:00 AM by ShortnFiery
even consider sending 20,000 more of our children, our Country's treasure and future ---> into the middle of this civil war bloodbath?

He and his minions are truly insane and must be stopped! :grr:
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GreenZoneLT Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 04:04 AM
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5. Directly related, but the Iraqis say the hangings didn't happen
FWIW, The Iraqi Ministry of Defense put out a press release today, saying the Army moved into Haifa street in response to media reports of people hanging from lamp posts, but that they didn't find any hanged corpses. They've been fighting there ever since; claim to have killed several dozen "terrorists," and captured or killed a number of foreigners (Syrians, Sudanese).

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 04:09 AM
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6. and The Telegraph is the only one reporting the hangings....
thanks for the info
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 06:14 AM
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12. GZLT, as far as you can tell, how far up on Haifa St is the fighting?
How far north of the Green Zone?

Stay safe - CNN is making this sound like the mother of all post-invasion Baghdad battles...
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GreenZoneLT Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 06:41 AM
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14. Can't be that close
I work in the equivalent of a bunker, and I can hear the planes going over, but not any explosions. So I guess it's at least a mile.

Eh, the risk in the Green Zone is about like living in a trailer park in Kansas. It's not impossible to get killed or wounded here, but you gotta be one unlucky SOB.

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 06:49 AM
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15. I think I'd still take my chances in Kansas over Baghdad...
;)

Be careful and keep us posted!:hi:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 05:06 AM
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7. So we're arresting angry Sunnis?
Aren't most Muslims Sunni? So in this effort we piss off how many millions of people? Just a ballpark figure will do.

And, by arresting Sunnis, doesn't this place us on the side of Iran, which is Shia?

Brilliant, Georgie. Just brilliant.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 10:07 AM
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24. Everything we've done in Iraq works to Iran's advantage.
The Mullahs thank Allah every day for sending them George W Bush.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:14 PM
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30. So he's the answers to someone's prayers, just not ours.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 05:18 AM
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8. here we go again.
more innocents will killed -- which provides yet more fuel for th fire.

the u.s. isn't capable learning WHY the insurgency keeps refueling itself -- and the shia aren't going to care.

i wonder how many of the iraqi soldiers fighting in the haifa neighborhood are sunni?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 06:05 AM
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9. That's George's response to every problem
kill more people.

Eventually you end up with no more people. End of problem.

AKA: Genocide.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 06:07 AM
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10. indeed -- this will create waves of unrest
in the sunni community -- and george would be relieved if it resulted in ''ethnic'', ''cultural'' cleansing.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 06:12 AM
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11. Haifa St is one of the main drags that runs thru the Green Zone...
Edited on Tue Jan-09-07 06:23 AM by Cooley Hurd
...as far as I can tell, this battle is just north of the GZ. CNN's Ryan Chillcothe (sp) just gave a live report in full armor.

Shit!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 06:37 AM
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13. A bunch of people were hanged from poles on the street
yet no photos were taken? Are there no more reporters left in Baghdad?

Guess we won't be seeing those hangings on US TV, not that I am anxious to see them. The Saddam hanging sure was televised a whole lot though.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 06:53 AM
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16. Upthread, DUer GreenZoneLT says it's likely didn't happen...
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GreenZoneLT Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 07:44 AM
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17. That one might be a false rumor
The Iraqi military claim they couldn't find any hanging bodies when they responded to the media reports of them, and kicked off this big fight on Haifa Street. The lack of photos IS suspicious; there are cell phone cameras EVERYWHERE in Baghdad.

The reporter problem is really complicated. Objective Arab journalists are targeted for death, and journalists identified as hooked-up with insurgents are detained if we or the Iraqi government catches them. It's a hideous Catch-22.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:36 AM
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18. AP: 50 Militants Said Killed in Iraq Battle
50 Militants Said Killed in Iraq Battle


Tuesday January 9, 2007 1:31 PM

AP Photo BAG106

By LAUREN FRAYER

Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - U.S. and Iraqi soldiers, backed by American warplanes,
battled suspected insurgents for hours Tuesday in central Baghdad, and 50
militant fighters were killed, the Defense Ministry said.

Maj. Gen. Ibrahim Shaker, a ministry spokesman, said 21 militants were captured,
of which seven were foreign Arabs - including three Syrians and one Sudanese.

U.S. helicopters circled above the Haifa Street area where the battle took place,
and witnesses said they had seen the aircraft firing into the combat zone.
Explosions rang out across the area, just north of the heavily fortified Green
Zone.

Police said the clashes began when gunmen attacked Iraqi army checkpoints, and
that Iraqi soldiers called for U.S. military help.

-snip-

Full article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6332938,00.html
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:39 AM
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19. Very super-convenient headline for GW, don't ya think?
Edited on Tue Jan-09-07 08:39 AM by elehhhhna
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:10 AM
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21. not to me, looks like another clusterfuc* and out of control situation
:shrug:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:50 AM
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22. I'm reading is as "Please, Amerika, save us! Send MORE troops! YAY!"
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 10:17 AM
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28. Well considering the US Military as pointed to this area in the past as success
I'd say it's not a positive development.
:shrug:

What is particularly interesting about this is that for two years the U.S. military has held the street up as a part of their success in Baghdad," reports CBS News chief foreign correspondent Lara Logan. "There was much violence along Haifa Street two years ago, and a deal was made between the Iraqis and insurgents living there to keep everything quiet as long as they didn't attack in that area. That deal now seems to be off."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/09/iraq/main2339852.shtml
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 10:02 AM
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23. Worse than Viet Nam, can't recall this type of fighting breaking out repeatedly in Saigon w/air
strikes, But I wasn't there so I don't really don't know if it may have happened and wasn't reported in media.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 10:10 AM
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25. map of Haifa st.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 10:14 AM
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26. So it's to be the Fallujah treatment for Sunni Baghdad
That'll work out just swell...like Fallujah.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 10:15 AM
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27. looks like the plan
Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said Iraqi forces had decided to wipe out "terrorist hideouts" in the Haifa Street area once and for all.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/09/iraq/main2339852.shtml
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 12:26 AM
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32. Baghdad street becomes new Fallujah
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 01:21 PM
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31. I sure wish
the darned old media would show us all the good news that's happening there........... :banghead:
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