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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:18 AM
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40 bodies found in Baghdad. Many shot and tortured
This was Saturday (yesterday).
Shiite torched homes and killed 1 person forcing 30 families to flee in Baghdad.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/IBO030270.htm
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:22 AM
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1. And W lit the fuse that caused the explosion in Iraq
But as we all know it is Iran's fault.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:04 PM
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15. We had signs in 2003(Feb 15) when The
World said "NO!" to WAR ON IRAQ that said, "bush Will Open a Big Ol' Can O' Whupass! in Middle East" if he is allowed to bomb Iraq.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:29 AM
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2. Sunni tribesmen and Shiite militia clash in Baghdad Sunday morning.
(Associated Press)
17 People Slain in Baghdad Clashes


Sunday December 10, 2006 1:01 PM

AP Photo BAG123

By QAIS AL-BASHIR

Associated Press Writer

-snip-

On Sunday morning, clashes erupted between Sunni and Shiite militants in Baghdad's
mixed western Amil district, a policeman said. One Shiite militiaman was killed and
six people - five Sunnis and one Shiite - were wounded, the officer said on condition
of anonymity because he is not authorized to talk to the media.

The clashes broke out at 8:45 a.m. when about 50 Shiite militiamen raided a Sunni
neighborhood of the Janabat tribe, the officer said. The fighting ended with U.S. and
Iraqi forces rushed to the area to contain it, he said.

The area is near a Sunni pocket of Hurriyah, another mixed neighborhood where fighting
occurred Saturday.

Witnesses said Shiite militiamen entered Hurriyah after Sunnis warned the few Shiites
living there to leave or be killed. Heavy machine gun fire was heard and three columns
of black smoke rose into the sky, the witnesses said on condition of anonymity, also
out of concern for their own safety.

-snip-

Full article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6271232,00.html
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:42 AM
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4. And don't forget the underreporting
Remember, the ISG said the Pentagon underreports deaths. So who knows the extent of the violence.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:34 AM
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3. "Watch this drive." - Commander AWOl
"Oh, and by the way, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Heh, heh, heh. Smirk Smirk Smirk."

- Commander AWOL

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:54 AM
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6. Don't forget, "Does that help? Heh, heh, heh"
Let's just call this slaughter what it is: The easily foreseeable fruits of the Bush Doctrine of Preemptive Invasion. Networks? There it is in a nice little 11-word sound bite that encapsulates these atrocities. Will you use it?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:21 AM
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5. How is it that such large numbers of bodies can be dumped with such impunity?
Doesn't anybody notice them BEING dumped?

:headbang:
rocknation
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:00 AM
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7. Sure people notice, but what are they going to do about it?
There is no one to report it to. If they stop and try to help then they risk putting their own life and their family's at risk.

When there is no security, no police and no government, the situation gets very scary.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:20 AM
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8. It's a city as big as New York
I think that they can dump a few bodies out of a moving van without anybody noticing.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:00 PM
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9. You CAN dump a few bodies out of a moving vehicle without a being noticed
but not a few DOZEN.

And many times the bodies are found in mass graves, which means you have to stop the vehicle and dig the grave first!

:shrug:
rocknation
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:06 PM
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10. I don't think they were all in one van
I imagine several dozen vehicles from different militia in different alleys at different times of the day.

The mass graves, well, that takes a bit more work. That is a VERY organized militia.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 04:42 PM
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14. Someone call the police: Wait....They ARE the police
The police is infiltrated by Shia militia.
The president Al-Maliki is afraid of them, and is suspected by Stephen Hadley of even wanting them to purse the Sunni.
This is why nobody calls the police. Because the assassins ARE the police.

It says it in the Iraq Study Group report. Not that I didn't know that before the report came out.
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:02 PM
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11. Another day in Baghdad
It's a good thing they had some time to enjoy freedom and democracy.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 03:02 PM
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12. New report: 60 bodies found across Baghdad
FACTBOX-Security developments in Iraq, Dec 10
10 Dec 2006 19:02:09 GMT
Source: Reuters

Dec 10 (Reuters) - Following are security and other developments in Iraq
as of 1850 GMT on Sunday:

* denotes a new or updated item.

* BAGHDAD - Police found the bodies of 60 apparent victims of sectarian
killings across Baghdad. Most of the bodies were found in western Baghdad.

-snip-

Full article: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/COL054305.htm
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 03:05 PM
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13. This never ceaes to amaze me: a small blurb of "X bodies, many found tortured, dead in Baghadad,"
Edited on Sun Dec-10-06 03:07 PM by nealmhughes
as matter-of-factly as if it were "58 and sunny tomorrow in Los Angeles."

Were 40 found dead from gunshots in any other city in the world, would not the city come to a standstill? Massive road blocks? Block by block searches for the culprits? The city and suburbs in group shock and mourning?

Nope. It's just another day in Baghdad...thanks to Bremer disallowing the people's self defense.

It's a libertarian's wet dream! Government has not been drowned in a bathtub, because there isn't enough water, rather shot in the back of the head.

When a country cannot even preserve the public safety, it has lost its mandate -- legalities and niceties of constitutions be damned.

Wasn't it Bismark who said that the bones of one Pomeranian musketeer weren't worth some war or another? Well -- what is having a city and a country that is unable to even go to market or school or work worth?

Every dead innocent Iraqi, guilty of only trying to live has the US government's blood on its hands. Every weeping comrade and grieveing family member or friend at another funeral for a soldier is a tragedy -- a completely avoidable tragedy.

No government ought to exist that only is a cash cow for various tribal/sect leaders without providing even a semblance of normality to its population. Our cow is runing dry and our patience at neocon stupidity.

All the fancy rhetoric of honor or victory aside, what the hell has the US and the UK got out of this mess besides death and suffering.

Bush's inability to control Baghdad alone is grounds for impeachment. Much less the lies and stolen money.

How much more do we have to take from these sick individuals? I'd rather have a lottery to pick the Congress and Administration right now than what we have. How much worse could it be?
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 06:37 AM
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16. And the sort of torture is beyond horrific.
Can you imagine having your joints, your head, your eyes subjected to a power drill?
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