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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:05 AM
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CNN: Brownback has taken the first step toward launching a 2008 presidential bid

http://www.cnn.com/

News Alert >> Republican Sen. Sam Brownback, a Kansan, has taken the first step toward launching a 2008 presidential bid, The Associated Press reports.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:07 AM
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1. oh please run sammy, pleeeeeeaaaase!
:rofl:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:51 PM
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22. Be Careful What You Wish For
Many were saying the same thing about W back in '99-'00.

Any Republican nominee for President, however inept and insane, has a pretty good chance of getting (s)elected.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 05:47 PM
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29. Yeah, but they're going to run somebody.
We can only hope they don't choose well.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 09:31 PM
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32. I Always Hope The Repubs Run Some Who Won't Be a Total Disaster if they "Win"
Because no matter how lame their candidates are, by hook and by crook,
the Repiglicans have "won" 2 out of every 3 Presidential elections in my lifetime.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 08:04 AM
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37. Me too!
All the world needs is a Taliban type in charge of the world's biggest collection of WMD.

Brownback is bloody scary!
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:08 AM
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2. "President Brokeback"? Somehow I just don't think so ...
:rofl: :evilgrin: :rofl:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:11 AM
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4. Even "brownback" comes with funny images.
:D
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:36 AM
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9. Brownback Mountain, anyone? n/t
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 03:54 PM
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26. The Skits on Saturday Night Live would be priceless though. PRICELESS!!!!!
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:27 PM
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41. What if we end up with Brownback vs. Vilsack?
That would sound like the title to a gay porn video..:rofl:
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:26 PM
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42. The Daily Show last night had a duck pop up and say "Brownback!"
It was funny. In the same type of "voice" as "AFLAC!"
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:09 AM
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3. Yes!!!!
Edited on Mon Dec-04-06 11:10 AM by Raiden
Let's all donate money to Bareback's campaign! :rofl:
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:17 AM
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5. Sam WHO?
I had to look this guy up. Predictably, the article I found said "He has little name recognition outside his home state." DUH!

He favors teaching intelligent design along with evolution; I now know all I need to know about Sen. Brownback. My sympathies go out to our Kansan DUers for having this man represent them.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:31 PM
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43. Tom Monaghan (Domino's Founder and R-W Catholic) is now on his campaign committee.
Very, very scary.

Monaghan's virulently anti-choice, believes the Roman Catholic Church is too liberal, supports Opus Dei, is building a religious community near Naples Florida (Ave Maria). Very, very scary.

I was raised Roman Catholic, much of my family still is conservative RC and they find thse people frightening.

Takes one to know one? I don't know. The vision of life in "The Handmaid's Tale" would fit in their version of a correct society.

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Gunit_Sangh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:29 AM
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6. re: sam who
Don't you remember this was the guy who channeled the thoughts of blastocysts who didn't want to be murdered for stem cell research.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:30 AM
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7. Here is the real Sam. He is extremely right wing, and potentially dangerous.
Nobody in this little church just off Times Square in Manhattan thinks of themselves as political. They're spiritual -- actors and athletes and pretty young things who believe that every word of the Bible is inerrant dictation from God. They look down from the balcony of the Morning Star, swaying and smiling at the screen that tells them how to sing along. Nail-pierced hands, a wounded side. This is love, this is love! But on this evening in January, politics and all its worldly machinations have entered their church. Sitting in the darkness of the front row is Sam Brownback, the Republican senator from Kansas. And hunched over on the stage in a red leather chair is an old man named Harald Bredesen, who has come to anoint Brownback as the Christian right's next candidate for president.

Over the last six decades, Bredesen has prayed with so many presidents and prime ministers and kings that he can barely remember their names. He's the spiritual father of Pat Robertson, the man behind the preacher's vast media empire. He was one of three pastors who laid hands on Ronald Reagan in 1970 and heard the Pasadena Prophecy: the moment when God told Reagan that he would one day occupy the White House. And he recently dispatched one of his proteges to remind George W. Bush of the divine will -- and evangelical power -- behind his presidency.

"I am a seeker," he says. Brownback believes that every spiritual path has its own unique scent, and he wants to inhale them all. When he ran for the House he was a Methodist. By the time he ran for the Senate he was an evangelical. Now he has become a Catholic. He was baptized not in a church but in a chapel tucked between lobbyists' offices on K Street that is run by Opus Dei, the secretive lay order founded by a Catholic priest who advocated "holy coercion" and considered Spanish dictator Francisco Franco an ideal of worldly power. Brownback also studies Torah with an orthodox rabbi from Brooklyn. "Deep," says the rabbi, Nosson Scherman. Lately, Brownback has been reading the Koran, but he doesn't like what he's finding. "There's some difficult material in it with regard to the Christian and the Jew," he tells a Christian radio program, voice husky with regret.

Brownback is not part of the GOP leadership, and he doesn't want to be. He once told a group of businessmen he wanted to be the next Jesse Helms -- "Senator No," who operated as a one-man demolition unit against godlessness, independent of his party. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a man with presidential ambitions of his own, gave Brownback a plum position on the Judiciary Committee, perhaps hoping that Brownback would provide a counterbalance to Arlen Specter, a moderate Republican who threatened to make trouble for Bush's appointees. Instead, taking a page from Helms, Brownback turned the position into a platform for a high-profile war against gay marriage, porn and abortion. Casting Bush and the Republican leadership as soft and muddled, he regularly turns sleepy hearings into platforms for his vision of America, inviting a parade of angry witnesses to denounce the "homosexual agenda," "bestiality" and "murder."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/9178374/gods_senator
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:04 PM
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12. I read that Rolling Stone article.
It filled me w/ the same dread that an article on tom delay had years earlier.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:34 PM
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24. Same here. I'd like to say he's too loony to have a chance,
but in any rational world he would never have made it as far as he already has.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 08:00 PM
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39. In Any Rational World This Man Would Be in the Big House Not the White House
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:01 PM
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40. You got that right. It pains me to look at him. nt
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:10 PM
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13. Opus Dei.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 03:58 PM
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27. oh dear. that would do anyone in, if Americans only read more.
Opus Dei are scary. Knew a family of them, until my religious and political views came out. They banned their kids from seeing me, especially a rather attractive member of the opposite sex. Once I learned more about OD, I didn't feel anything but lucky - in a whole different sort of way.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:03 PM
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11. LOL!
Contact form for Brownback if you want to let HIM know how you feel

http://brownback.senate.gov/CMEmailMe.cfm
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:58 AM
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10. Ah, so Brownshirt's runnin' eh?
This will be lots of fun! :toast:

Julie
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:14 PM
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14. He claims to be another Reagan. Could he really be that aloof?
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:14 PM
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15. He claims to be another Reagan. Could he really be that aloof?
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:28 PM
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18. Reagan wasn't a religous nut.
There. I've actually said something good about him. Must be the first time, too.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:18 PM
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16. He'd get 35% of the vote, AT BEST.
We had a nutjob in the Blight House for eight years. No more nut jobs. Run someone normal. Or don't. Up to you.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:42 PM
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20. 35% maybe.
That's what I thought about the current nut job years ago. I was wrong. I can't make the mistake of underestimating the stupidity of the people and the hackable voting machines.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:49 PM
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21. Brownshirt doesn't have the luxury of a Bush last name.
Nor does he have the luxury of being in the BFEE/Corporations/Big Oil pockets.

The Democratic congressional victory is evidence America is finally waking up from this nightmare and saying "enough!" Republicans are going to try and win the center and running a polarizing religious right wack-a-doo like Brownback isn't the strategy they're going to try.

See, Bush wasn't SO MUCH of a religious nutjob initially. He ran as a right-leaning moderate and middle America bought the ruse (while we all hung our heads in shame), but by the time they knew better, it was too late. We KNOW what Brownback is already.
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 02:39 PM
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45. For all of "Snowflake Sam's" looniness
his biggest advantage is being the favorite senator of the very rich, very right-wing Koch family of Kansas. He won't lack for early money.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:25 PM
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17. Gag me with a spoon.
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 12:41 PM
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19. Easy Prey
All we have to do if he wins the nom is run someone sane and he'll get clobbered.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 01:19 PM
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23. isn't he one of the certifiable loons?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 02:23 PM
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25. I can't wait for him to introduce his running mate...
...the Talking Embryo! :rofl:
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 04:58 PM
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28. He might just name Jesus his running mate.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 06:48 PM
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30. Sam's the Man
:rofl:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 07:05 PM
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31. He's one of the craziest religious fanatics in congress
He's the equivalent of the '88 (or was it '92?) Pat Robertson run.

Unfortunately, I think these theocrats have gained more power since then and mobilize their voters better.

On the upside, there's no way he can pull the same "Bush as a moderate" BS shtick as in '00, though who knows what they can pull with the media in their pocket.
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aka-chmeee Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 10:50 PM
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33. Blue Kansan's Burden
Edited on Mon Dec-04-06 10:52 PM by aka-chmeee
While it would perhaps be nice to have other shoulders to share the burden of ol' Sam Brown-in-the-shorts, If the choice is between having the freak isolated here in Kansas or occupying the White House, I'll be happy to bear the load with my fellow Kansans and spare the rest of you.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:05 PM
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34. Bumper stickers already spotted:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:35 PM
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35. Brownback's Voting Record
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Sam_Brownback.htm

I hope he is the Rethug Candidate.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 03:33 AM
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36. New headline? "...Taken the first step in LOSING the 2008 election..."..n/y
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Red1 Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 08:12 AM
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38. Idiot
Edited on Tue Dec-05-06 08:13 AM by Red1
I sent his website a msg, put a whippin on the boy,
figure his "exploratory committee" will use that database
to profile the guy.

Look for brownback to distance himself from the rightwinger
religious fanatic image.
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 02:34 PM
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44. Now if only the majority of the other 299 million people in this country
were as retarded as the majority of people from Kansas are, apparently.
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