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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:06 PM
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EX-CONGRESSMAN MARK FOLEY WILL NAME THE PRIEST WHO ALLEGEDLY MOLESTED HIM
EX-CONGRESSMAN MARK FOLEY WILL NAME THE PRIEST WHO ALLEGEDLY MOLESTED HIM AS PART OF A 'HEALING PROCESS'; FBI PROBE CONTINUES

Breaking on http://abcnews.go.com/?CMP=EMC-1396

Sorry about the caps
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:08 PM
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1. being molested by anyone doesn't excuse his behavior!
what a lot of subterfuge....
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:09 PM
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4. Yes, and I wonder if this priest is still alive.
Or if he'll conveniently pick one who is dead and unable to defend himself. This whole thing stinks.
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Lenore Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:54 PM
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24. My Thoughts Exactly
They are probably pouring over the Church's death records as we speak.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:22 PM
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32. The delay in naming the priest has been caused by
the time it took to research who would be a good, dead priest who couldn't defend himself, who was at Foley's church at the time he attended it. It took an army of private investigators about a week, it looks like.

They probably gave Foley some guy's name that he never met, or doesn't actually remember anything about. But he'll name him and sully his reputation.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:29 PM
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36. Exactly what I said the day Foley 's "excuse" was made public.
Not that I subscribe to it, per se, but a Catholic friend of mine says Foley had better be careful because he is "fucking with God" if he blames an innocent priest.



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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:51 PM
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38. I remember when you posted that.
And I have been waiting for it to come true.

Foley doesn't mind "fucking with God". Hell, he'll fuck anything.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:17 PM
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47. Young Mark was just playing a PRANK on the priest!
And of course he was giggling about it the whole time! He was just a little BEAST who wanted it bad!

(Right, Mr. Drudge?):sarcasm:
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Irreverend IX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 05:45 AM
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56. It took his lawyers this long...
To find a priest who was in the right places at the right times to support their story and who is now dead.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:10 PM
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6. Doesn't mean he shouldn't put his money where his mouth is
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 05:10 PM by DoYouEverWonder
If he has direct knowledge of a member of the clergy that abuses young boys, it's his civic duty to go to the authorities with his info.

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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:17 PM
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12. Then he is even more reprehensible...
Because the truth is if he knew this, he should have already done so in order to protect other boys from this alleged pedophile priest. This does not excuse his behavior or make him somehow better -- I'm not saying you're saying that by the way -- and it only serves to make him all that much worst because if he kept quiet, he did so for selfish reasons if kids were in danger.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:27 PM
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16. Exactly
How many other young boys were harmed by his silence?

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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:43 PM
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22. So, he shall be harming himself by making this disclosure.
Fear of shame is a small excuse if CHILDREN were in harm's way due to an alleged molesting priest because this guy was too chicken-shit to speak up.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:10 PM
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28. I noticed the amount of time between his accusation and the naming
of the priest.

I think lots of desperate discussions preceded this announcement. MKJ
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:09 PM
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40. They probably had to dig around
to find someone that he would have been in contact with that already been accused by other people.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:39 PM
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21. no, it does not. Lets see what the media does with this.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:28 PM
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34. This should bring out a whole
lot of people who were molested who didn't resort to molesting others.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:11 PM
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46. Damn right! Most "molestees" do not molest others.
In fact, some of them consider it extremely important that they NEVER visit on another person the hell THEY were put through!

I say this after working on hundreds of cases involving child custody. In such cases, people's secrets are often laid bare--including molestation.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:08 PM
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2. Keeps it in the news
.
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twaddler01 Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:57 PM
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26. Who care about North Korea anyway?
:sarcasm:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:08 PM
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3. "Therefore, I am not responsible for my own perversion." - Foley
"After all, I am a republicon, and therefore not responsible for any of my heinous actions." - Foley
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:10 PM
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7. he should go and get help
not hold a frigging press conference! :grr:
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:10 PM
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5. This revives the story!
Just as it was fading.

Go Foley (you humiliation lover)! Go!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:12 PM
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8. Stirring the republicon shit pot
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 05:14 PM by SpiralHawk
and it is so full of perverted crap...

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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:15 PM
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9. My thoughts exactly.
eom
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:30 PM
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37. REally! foley is freakin'
masochist!
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:15 PM
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10. I am going to name the guy who mugged me too.
That way I can make some extra cash stealing purses from old ladies this weekend.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:16 PM
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11. DU the poll that is on the same page (re: GOP/Christian right)
Do you think the GOP will lose support from evangelical Christians at the polls in November?

Yes, it's clear the GOP was cynically playing on the Christian base's support, but not serving it.

No, the GOP is respectful of evangelicals, and its agenda serves traditional Christian values.

I don't care. I don't think we should mix religion and politics


So far, the cynical choice is ahead, w/ 55%

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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:47 PM
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23. .
David Kuo, former deputy director of the White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives, says in a new book that the office was misused to rally evangelical Christians, to get GOP politicians elected.

Do you think the GOP will lose support from evangelical Christians at the polls in November?

Yes, it's clear the GOP was cynically playing on the Christian base's support, but not serving it.
3,482

I don't care. I don't think we should mix religion and politics.1,738

No, the GOP is respectful of evangelicals, and its agenda serves traditional Christian values.1,081

Total Vote: 6,301



Not a scientific survey.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:17 PM
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13. Unlike Clinton, He Has An Excuse....
He was supposedly "raped" by a priest, so now he's a pedophile.

All Bill could say was he got laid as a teenager, so now he likes blow jobs.

One person is vilified, the other is sympathized. What a FUCKED UP country we live in.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:24 PM
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15. That is very flawed comparison
Clinton was on the phone when Monica unzipped his pants, etc. She had already commited adultery with a married professor. She was a groupie and serial home-wrecker.

That hardly compares to a 16YO page from the backwoods who gets unwillingly stalked and harrassed by Foley.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:18 PM
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14. So you think they finally found a dead priest with no living relatives?…
I won't be surprised. . .
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:31 PM
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17. My first thought, also.....


Tikki
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:58 PM
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27. Father Geoghan did it!
He was murdered in prison!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:11 PM
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39. I'll be surprised if it's anything else.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:45 AM
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52. surprised then, aren't ya! :) n/t
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:05 AM
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53. Why, who did he name? I haven't heard yet.
:shrug:
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:55 AM
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54. It is Gerry Studds fault!
We all know that, I am sure we have all been told that too by a Republican when this comes up. None of them seem to remember Dan Crane (R)censured at the same time as Studds for doing the same thing with a 17 year old female page and he ran for re-election. But that is just a distraction to the fact that this is all Gerry Studds fault.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:33 PM
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18. roflmao!!!!
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 05:33 PM by goforit
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:35 PM
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19. Goody.
We won't bother with the number of kids he's been free to molest while Foley kept silent and imitated him.

After all, Foley's the victim here.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:36 PM
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20. snooze
why didn't he come out with this before he was busted for his emails and IMs

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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:54 PM
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25. Hope he is ready to be sued for defamation into the next millenium.
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 05:55 PM by The Stranger
At least this will be good for a few more news cycles -- right through that election.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:14 PM
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29. *yawn* we have no further use for you, mr. foley. go to jail now.
go rot.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:11 PM
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41. I say ... Good job keeping the story alive!! until after the election
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:17 PM
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30. Wow. that therapy is magical. Last week he said he couldn't remember
the priest's name..
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:29 PM
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35. Well, he's sober now
So he can remember better.

(Which I guess would mean that the guy's been drunk since he was in his teens...but that's another story).
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:18 PM
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31. Let me guess...
it was Brother Cavil, one of the Cylon models from Battlestar Galactica...

:eyes:
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:26 PM
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33. so far the only thing mark foley has done is to try to find an excuse for
his behavior.

first the abuse on him by a priest + the alcohol use, he said.

then, it was the alcohol use--but that didn't hold,

now is back to the abuse with the name of a live priest

so...

will it ever be,

it was done to me, it was wrong. i did it to others. it was wrong of me. i am sorry. the buck stops with me?

i understand that telling about it is part of his healing. good. he has many good ears listening to him: his therapist, his psychiatrist, his psychiatric nurse, his psychologist, his lawyer ...

so, he has made public all of what he needed to keep confidential in the midst of his treatment team.

but he has not given one inkling of an iota to the fact that he and only he is responsible for his behavior.

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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:11 PM
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42. Oh, who gives a good god damn?
No offense meant toward you, Roon.

Close to one third of all women -- that is ALL WOMEN -- in this country were sexually molested as children. I don't know the percentage of men is but I'm willing to bet it's at least a quarter.

I never once molested a child or made indecent proposals to anyone underage, and I got it from three different men, not just one! And you know what? I'm not pretending to be a drunk, either!

Jesus Christ, you fucking asshole coward, own up to what you did!
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:20 PM
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43. BFD - it doesn't excused one thing about him. Nothing but a dis-
traction and the typical "Party of Personal Responsibility" way to handle it - find someone else to blame!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:34 PM
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44. No Doubt He'll Name a Dead One n/t
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:05 PM
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45. AP: Mahoney (D) is now the favorite in the race.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-1017foley,0,5600803.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

Foley's abrupt departure left behind an Internet-age sex scandal that shook Republican confidence -- and poll numbers -- little more than a month before elections at which their control of the House will be tested.

It also threw the spotlight on House Speaker Dennis Hastert regarding conflicting claims about what senior lawmakers knew, when they learned it and what they did about it.

The scenario has put a focus on the race that has sent national resources to a district that was an afterthought a few weeks ago.

Before the scandal, Foley was a popular incumbent who was easily expected to defeat Democrat Tim Mahoney. Now Mahoney is the favorite in the race.

Foley's name will remain on the ballot, but votes for him will count for state Rep. Joe Negron.


:bounce:

-Cindy in Fort Lauderdale
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:30 PM
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48. so he couldn't have named his molester to a shrink before this and
gotten help before he sexually harrassed all those underage boys. He wasn't concerned about the healing process until he got caught apparently, and after he got caught either, since its been known for years he was doing it.

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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:39 PM
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49. Why doesn't he just name him...
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 11:16 PM by True_Blue
Why does he have to announce that he's going to name him? Just name him.

The suspense is killing me...NOT!
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:58 PM
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50. In makes neither he or hastert innocent n/t
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:48 AM
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51. Here's my guess.
William Sloane Coffin. Failing that, one of the Berrigan brothers. Long shot: Robert Drinan. :rofl:
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 05:05 AM
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55. uhm yea.....so the hell what?
What does this have to do with ANYTHING? Let me guess, the priest is a Democrat....
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Sven77 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:49 AM
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57. im sure Pope Ratzinger covered up the scandal
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 06:50 AM by Sven77
they made him Pope to stop the investigation of molestation in the Catholic Church

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI

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