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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:14 AM
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Court official: Saddam verdict, sentence if guilty, to be announced Nov. 5
Court official: Saddam verdict, sentence if guilty, to be announced Nov. 5
The Associated Press

Published: October 16, 2006
BAGHDAD, Iraq A verdict against Saddam Hussein and seven co-defendants
charged with crimes against humanity in connection with an anti-Shiite
crackdown in the 1980s will be announced Nov. 5, a senior court official
said on Monday.

Sentences for those found guilty will be issued the same day, chief investigating
judge Raid Juhi told The Associated Press.

-snip-

That trial adjourned July 27 to allow its five-judge panel to consider a verdict.
The court was to have reconvened Monday to hear a verdict.

"The Dujail trial will resume Nov. 5 when the presiding judge will announce the
verdict and the sentencing," Juhi said.

-snip-

Full article: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/16/africa/ME_GEN_Iraq_Saddam_Trial.php
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:15 AM
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1. Hmmmm......
Right before US elections?
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:00 AM
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25. But, purely coincidental
:sarcasm:
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:17 AM
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2. If that isn't a blatant neocon move before the election
I don't know what is. :puke:
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:38 AM
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6. If it meets the needs, it leads.
I guess you could say.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:18 AM
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3. Considering they already know the verdict and sentence...
...they may as well just tell us now.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:22 AM
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4. You Have Doubts About the Outcome?
This is theatre, not justice.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:23 AM
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5. None at all.
That's why I suggested they should simply end the pantomime and roll out the verdict we all know is coming.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:41 AM
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7. How convenient.
Perhaps they can publicly execute him the night before the election.

We live on planet retarded fascist world.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:47 AM
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8. It would be much more of a surprise if he were found innocent. If...
Saddam being found guilty is a ploy by the CONs it's a pretty useless one. No matter how much the Cons yak it up all a guilty verdict would garner from most of the American public (and probably most of the world) is one big collective :::yawn:::.

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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:08 AM
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9. The Republicons think this will save them in the elections?
Bwahahahahahaha!! :rofl:

Even the IRAQIS don't give a damn about Hussein at this point! All they know is that bastard gets three hots and a safe cot every day and night, and THEY DON'T.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:23 AM
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12. OBL's gonna LOVE this.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:18 AM
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32. It's the smokescreen.
It's the fake October surprise that the news media will slavishly focus on while the Repigs go through their election-stealing routine. Hey, look--a shiny thing!!
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:27 AM
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10. It reminds me of divorce proceedings--

the actual official event is just a blip on the screen in the long run. Might as well get it over with so that the mess in Iraq will be more obvious.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:05 AM
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11. This will SURELY stop ALL the violence in Iraq! Saddam is behind bars!
WOO HOO!!







Oh wait.....

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:45 AM
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13. Why would BushCo risk more violence just befor NOV 7?? To show
that he is tough on terroritsts?

It is rather puzzling to me.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:49 AM
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14. What an amazing co-inky-dink. n/t
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:04 AM
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15. They schedule a verdict three weeks in advance?
Interesting court system we set up there.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:24 AM
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16. My thougnts exactly.
Unless they KNOW the outcome now ~~ how the hell do they KNOW when the verdict will be announced? Ummmmm....

Sure...right...this is justice. And besides, like others said, this whole Saddam thing is pretty much a huge **yawn**. And, I think it has not gotten much interest because even the neocons know that the outcome has been pre-determined. Ummmmmmm.....

What was one of the faux reasons that Bush came up with about going into Iraq??? Something about democracy??? Yep, the Saddam trial sure sets a good example for the Iraqis ~~ NOT!!

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AllexxisF1 Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:25 AM
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17. Reminds me...
Remember, remember the 5th of November...
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:40 AM
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18. Saddam verdict is expected on Nov. 5
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 09:31 AM by RestoreGore
Saddam verdict is expected on Nov. 5
By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA,
Associated Press Writer

Mon Oct 16, 7:06 AM ET

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A verdict against Saddam Hussein and seven co-defendants charged with crimes against humanity in connection with an anti-Shiite crackdown in the 1980s will be announced Nov. 5, a senior court official said on Monday.

Sentences for those found guilty will be issued the same day, chief investigating judge Raid Juhi told The Associated Press. The former Iraqi leader could be hanged if convicted. However, he could appeal the sentence to a higher, nine-judge court. His co-defendants include his former deputy, Taha Yassin Ramadan, and his half-brother and former intelligence chief Barzan Ibrahim.

The trial began a year ago with the eight defendants facing charges arising from the deaths of nearly 150 Shiites from the town of Dujail after a 1982 assassination attempt against Saddam in the town north of Baghdad.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061016/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saddam_trial
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:40 AM
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19. Note that this is two days before elections here...n.t
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:40 AM
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20. I see that hmmmmmmmm
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:40 AM
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21. It Will Be An Illustration Of What Is To Come For *Co's "Crimes Against...
humanity".
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:40 AM
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22. Remember, Remember the Fifth of November


Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot...


Guy Fawkes & the Gunpowder Plot

Words of "Remember Remember" refer to Guy Fawkes with origins in 17th century English history. On the 5th November 1605 Guy Fawkes was caught in the cellars of the Houses of Parliament with several dozen barrels of gunpowder. Guy Fawkes was subsequently tried as a traitor with his co-conspirators for plotting against the government. He was tried by Judge Popham who came to London specifically for the trial from his country manor Littlecote House in Hungerford, Gloucestershire. Fawkes was sentenced to death and the form of the execution was one of the most horrendous ever practised (hung ,drawn and quartered) which reflected the serious nature of the crime of treason.

The Tradition begins...
The following year in 1606 it became an annual custom for the King and Parliament to commission a sermon to commemorate the event. Lancelot Andrewes delivered the first of many Gunpowder Plot Sermons. This practice, together with the nursery rhyme, ensured that this crime would never be forgotten! Hence the words " Remember , remember the 5th of November" The poem is sometimes referred to as 'Please to remember the fifth of November'. It serves as a warning to each new generation that treason will never be forgotten. In England the 5th of November is still commemorated each year with fireworks and bonfires culminating with the burning of effigies of Guy Fawkes (the guy). The 'guys' are made by children by filling old clothes with crumpled newspapers to look like a man. Tradition allows British children to display their 'guys' to passers-by and asking for " A penny for the guy".




The picture is of the 'Gunpowder Plot' conspirators
Starting with Thomas Bates, Robert Wintour, Christopher Wright, John Wright, Thomas Percy, Guy Fawkes, Robert Catesby and Thomas Wintour

More:
http://www.rhymes.org.uk/remember_remember_the_5th_november.htm



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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:40 AM
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23. Yes ~ huuum
Rove must control the Courts over there too.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:42 AM
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24. I agree
Saddams death sentence will be the november surprise!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:05 AM
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26. Don't worry about it
Everybody knows he will be found guilty (they have already said that if he somehow gets off, they will just charge him with more crimes). It will not have an impact on the election, unless you all wring your hands and needlessly worry about it.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:23 AM
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27. *snicker snicker* could they BE any more obvious????
pretty clear evidence of the 'trial' being a travishamockery of justice engineered solely by american controllers.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:27 AM
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28. Well gooolly. Nov 5th, aint that a coincidence.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:31 AM
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29. Damn. I'm not even a conspiracy theorist, but that's a vote-getter stunt.
And it's not going to work, either.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 10:36 AM
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30. tiny bounce at best
its not like anyone will feel optimistic after a foregone conclusion is concluded. only the already deluded will take heart, and they are already voting for fascism.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 11:11 AM
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31. Bad move GOP
First, I'll assume this is a GOP stunt. I'm sure they put a lot of pressure on the courts to have a verdict on the 5th.

But this is not a grand idea. This will remind people of the foolishness of the Iraq war. People will say, "Oh yeah...there is that guy that we went in to this hell hole to get because we thought he had WMD but he didn't and now we have 3000 dead Americans, 20,000 wounded, and 600,000 Iraqi casualties. Boy that Bush is an idiot."

Only those robots who are already voting for the GOP without pause will see this as a good thing. Oh, and FOX news too....

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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 06:02 PM
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33. That's a SUNDAY
What the hell are they doing in court on Sunday? Or do Iraqis have different "weekends"? Or do they have weekends?

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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:10 PM
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34. This is...
what they'll use to make the election fraud a non-issue. Headlines: "Saddam verdict helps maintain House for GOP"

Even though it was really the fraud, the media will grasp at false causes for the fraudulent effect.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 07:22 PM
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35. What do they mean "if guilty"? A guilty verdict is a foregone conclusion!
Saddam's "trial" is a joke, nothing but a Kurdish show trial or a Shia kangaroo court. Saddam should have been tried at The Hague. There Saddam would have had a fair trial, and he would have been able to present evidence, including evidence implicating the United States in the Iraq-Iran War.
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 08:16 PM
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36. United States should protect Saddam from being executed
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 08:19 PM by ckramer
This is totally wrong. Very wrong to kill Saddam. Very wrong.

If it were not for Bush's wrong decision of invading Iraq, neither Iraq nor Saddam would not have been in this terrible situation today. Killing Saddam is not justified because the reason going to war was false.

Killing Saddam only feuls the civil war because any Sunnis would see this as a partisan act.

His people didn't overthrow him. A foreign superpower illegally did.

Saddam should be shipped out of the country.

The trial is a bad show, and should have never be put on by the US.

Let's admit mistake like a man. Let's admit mistake by releasing Saddam.

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