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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:06 PM
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White House Changes Story on Bush Plane Incident
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20031203/ts_nm/bush_iraq_pilot_dc&cid=564&ncid=1480

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House on Wednesday changed its story of a British Airways pilot's spotting of Air Force One during President Bush (news - web sites)'s stealth trip to Iraq (news - web sites) last week.


The original story -- which held that the airline's pilot had talked to Air Force One and that he kept the secret of Bush's Thanksgiving Day flight to Baghdad -- had been told by White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett to reporters as he sought to portray the drama of Bush's trip.


But after British Airways denied such a conversation took place, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said on Wednesday the airline's pilot never contacted Air Force One. "The conversation was between the British Airways plane and the London control tower," McClellan said.


It was also the London control tower, not an Air Force One pilot as in the original story, that misidentified Air Force One as a much smaller "Gulfstream 5" aircraft, McClellan said.

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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:08 PM
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1. Well, Alrighty then!
Will be looking for the UK report that this latest spin is another piece of BS WH crapola :evilgrin:
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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:10 PM
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2. Scummy liars n/t
n/t
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:10 PM
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3. Liar Liar Pants On Fire.....
the whole regime lies, even when
they don't have to.

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Wink Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:10 PM
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4. These liars run our country?
My god, they lie about everything. They lie about small things, large things, imaginary things, and facts that are written in stone. What a bunch of disgusting...well typical republicans.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:14 PM
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5. Duplicate thread. This was hashed to death yesterday. n/t
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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:21 PM
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8. Actually no
This is a new lie.
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:50 PM
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11. Actually, it was a new lie yesterday. Here's the other thread
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:17 PM
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6. Whatever was the point of such a blatant lie --
are they so sure of the press that they can't imagine that they might want to do some checking or some follow-up. These repukes are weird.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:21 PM
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7. So the conversation probably DID take place
Edited on Wed Dec-03-03 02:22 PM by rocknation
And it makes the story that much more plausible that the pilot would ask the control tower rather than the unidentified aircraft what was going on. And keep in mind that what British Airways denied was that the pilot spoke with AF1, NOT that the conversation didn't take place at all.


rocknation
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pw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:42 PM
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9. BA has no record of control-tower conversation either
They issued a statement that none of their people has said anything about it. (And by now you'd expect they would have)
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:46 PM
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10. British Airways said it could not confirm the new account.
British Airways said it could not confirm the White House's new version of the Air Force One story. "We've had no reports from any of our pilots with regard to Air Force One," airline spokeswoman Honor Verrier said.

This pilot has had ample time to come clean. Funny how they can't seem to find him! I'm sure in a few days that BA will coerce one of there pilots to step forth and claim that he was the one.. after a call from Karl Rover.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:56 PM
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12. now, now ...
everyone calm down. As long as they're not lying about sex with an intern, then any lies they want to tell are just fine and dandy, right? Nothing to see here ... move along ...
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 03:09 PM
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14. Bullshit. The MO of these Stalin-like Busheviks when caught in a lie
is to invent six other lies.

Bullshit.

What I want to know is WHY they lie about everything. Did their psychomanipulators determine that a folksy story and the manly threat of "turning the plane around" by der Macho Fuhrer would be useful?

WHY do they lie about damned near EVERYTHING?!?

I guess that's as stupid as asking why Hitler, Stalin, Marcos or Amin did the same.

It's just the kind of people they are, the kind of people they surround themselves with...
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 02:57 PM
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13. according to an eyewitness....
....on the ground at Baghdad airport (a GI who posted real time about the landing) Bush landed there in a Gulfstream.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 06:45 PM
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15. how about this!!
bush never went to bagdad..it was set up in an empty warehouse in sw dc.!! those weren t soldiers but brainwashed young republicans!! and it wasn t thanksgiving..but the middle of october!!!

even when he tells the truth he lies!!
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 06:54 PM
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16. Close but he was in Crawford ...
There are enough AFB's in the SW US that he could have staged it very easily.


:hippie:
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 07:16 PM
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18. I think there were GIs whose families recognized them...
I have no confirmation of that, via links or 'news' sources but I'm pretty sure the staging would have had to involve getting Bremer and a bunch of soldiers here and back to Baghdad overnight (as opposed to one dim bulb).

Not that I believe them....


Tut-tut
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 07:12 PM
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17. Absolutely no shame with these crock shuckers..
and their childish stories.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 10:06 PM
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19. Well GOOD!
All radio communications with Air Traffic Control or Control Towers are TAPED. I'm sure that bush* will produce this tape so that we can all rest assured that there are NO LIARS in the White House!

OK bush*, you can play the tape now.....ah, we're listening... go ahead and start the tape so that the World will know you're not a LIAR!!!...we're waiting for the proof.....still waiting....
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 10:18 PM
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20. They tell so many lies that they wouldn't know the truth if it bit
them dead center in the ass.

It takes a wise man to recognize his own lie when it gets back to him and this group just isn't that bright. This will be their undoing, all the lies will come back to haunt them.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 10:23 PM
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21. They are COMPULSIVE Liars.
What is the psychology behind this? They are compelled to LIE about every single thing they do. Why? You'll see in another thread that the turkey he posed with was fake. Mission Accomplished. WTF?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 10:44 PM
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22. No wonder he does so terribly in front of an unscripted audience...
how could a liar keep all the lies straight...he's a puppet liar - no one could keep it all straight. For a puppet liar, he's got a mighty big job - and you're all being so hard on his string pullers for the lies they want him to tell. After all, he's only a cheerleading, flyboy, backslapper businessman who others wanted as a president puppet so the lies would be more palatable, but it's so hard to keep it straight. But, then again, the media helps out in every way they can. It can get too involved.
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