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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:54 AM
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NYT: Lamont Criticizes Lieberman’s 1998 Rebuke of Clinton Over Affair
Ned Lamont, Connecticut’s Democratic Senate candidate, has sharply criticized Senator Joseph I. Lieberman’s public rebuke of former President Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, suggesting this week that Mr. Lieberman turned his back on a decades-old friendship and helped make a tragic episode a “media spectacle.”

Mr. Lamont said on Wednesday night that he shared Mr. Lieberman’s “moral outrage” over Mr. Clinton’s sexual misbehavior, but Mr. Lamont was harsh in attacking a speech that was praised as principled by many leaders in both parties and helped propel the Connecticut senator to national prominence.

“You don’t go to the floor of the Senate and turn this into a media spectacle,” Mr. Lamont said of Mr. Lieberman’s remarks eight years ago this month.

“You go up there, you sit down with one of your oldest friends and say, ‘You’re embarrassing yourself, you’re embarrassing your presidency, you’re embarrassing your family, and it’s got to stop.’ ” he said.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/08/nyregion/08conn.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:57 AM
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1. he should compare it to Lieberman's defense of Bush
and lack of outrage over the things Bush has done while making a huge deal out of Clinton's bj.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:52 AM
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5. Agreed - Clinton wasn't a mass murderer. nt
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:27 PM
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9. OR a war criminal, either.
Even as feminist as I am, I'd rather have a president who's screwing an intern than one who's screwing THE WHOLE FRICKIN' COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:58 AM
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2. Can we skip the senate thing and just go right for president
with this guy?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:07 PM
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19. We Desperately Need Lamont In Senate First
so we can get these criminals in jail and out of public office. Then he's golden for Pres, as far as I'm concerned.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:59 AM
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3. Is Lamont pre-empting a Joementum commentary on ABC/Disney's
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 02:07 AM by jean
docudrama-abomination and regurgitation of his Monica rebuke? Seems like it - Bravo, Ned


edit - forgot to say ... since the ABC/Disney travesty coughs up the Lewinsky saga, it seems a perfect cue for Liebermann to crank up his old, very public rebuke.

And maybe ... there is a veiled threat of public rebuke of Liebermann on the floor of the Senate, between the lines.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:21 PM
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8. Joementum is going to have commentary in regards to the movie?
:wtf: :grr:

He's going to stand-up and say "Heckuva a job George!!!"



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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:18 PM
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14. I don't know. But the fact the movie does have Lewinsky references
AND Liebermann was the outspoken Dem at the time ... I wouldn't put it past him to step up to a mike and again smack Clinton. Especially since both Clintons are campaigning for Lamont.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:34 AM
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4. Lamont's got it right. A private conversation and not a public rebuke
would have been the act of a friend.

But we've seen Joe grandstanding on "moral" ground before, so we weren't too surprised.

Most of that period of time Joe was giving Hollywood the what-for as well.

We need Ned in and Joe out.
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sidpleasant Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:41 AM
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6. Joe's morality: Bill Clinton bad, assaulting WW2 heroes good
That's a strange notion of morality that Lieberman has. He ginned up a lot of fake outrage at Bill Clinton's behavior yet Joe had not one word to say when some of his LieberThug supporters assaulted a World War 2 veteran. The 90 year old man was trying to speak to Lamont at a primary campaign stop when he was knocked to the ground by a bunch of Lieberman's hired goons. Of course Joe's denunciation of Clinton had nothing to do with the president's adultery, it was all about publicity for Joe and reinforcing his "only decent Democrat" cred amongst Republicans.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:00 AM
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7. And he's digging up old issues why?
I think it's ridiculous to even bring this up after so long
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:27 PM
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12. I agree - besides with censure and impeachment
votes on the agenda, most Senators did speak about this. They pretty much had to to defend their votes. (Look in Thomas - they are actually more interesting in seeing what was important to various Senators. )
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:30 PM
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10. Brilliant move, Ned
Reminding the independents of how badly Joe treated Bill should help push enough of them your way to win.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Riddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:06 PM
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11. Too bad ol' GOP Joe couldn't find the same courage to
muster any outrage at lies, theft, and blanket corruption of the Bush administration. Looks like GOP Joe is the one wearing the blue dress for Bush this time around.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:32 PM
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13. actually, I'm afraid it could have the opposite effect
Reminding Democrats that Lieberman was the first Democratic senator to publicly condemn Clinton may help pull more Democrats towards Lamont and away from Lieberman, but I'm not so sure how it plays with indies. Lieberman characterized Clinton's behavior as immoral. Well, I suspect a lot of indies agree with that. Its not the same as having supported impeachment. And as others have pointed out, a number of Democrats criticized Clinton's behavior in not dissimilar terms. Yes, Joe was the first, but I'm not sure that an indie that feels that Clinton's behavior was "unpresidential" (albeit not meriting impeachment) will find this a reason to support Lamont, since it just makes Lamont seem more partisan.

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:46 PM
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15. hmmm if it was me, the hardest slam
will always work the best, so like in their sunday morning talk show debate coming up, and Ned saying, "well Joe, your kiss from george bush is synonymous of your allegience to his failed policies that have plummeted our country into the iraq ills and katrina sadness we suffer as a county"

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <-- top dem stickers
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:48 PM
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16. Brilliant Indeed! Check (nt)
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:49 PM
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17. The guy lied about screwing around on his wife.
Big deal.

Rhetorical question here: why did any of us have to know about it? If he'd committed perjury that would be one thing (he didn't), if he'd been derelict in his duty it would be something (he wasn't), and if he'd been fucking Joe Lieberman's wife (he wasn't -- probably), then Joe might of had a reason to stand up and say something.

I hope the people in Connecticut remember that.

THere is a special place in Hell for Joe Lieberman.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:58 PM
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18. and Bush lied this country into war in Iraq
Lieberman made a big production of criticizing Clinton for his one petty lie, while ignoring Bush's flood of lies.

Like you said, there is a special place in Hell for Joe Lieberman.
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