CSIS 'mole' outs himself on CBC (wacko terror informant)

[NorthernSun]

Infiltrated alleged cell: Fundamentalist tried to bring shariah to Ontario

Stewart Bell, National Post
Published: Friday, July 14, 2006

TORONTO - A man who led a campaign to bring Islamic law to Ontario last year has been identified as the police informant who infiltrated an alleged terrorist cell in Toronto.

While the RCMP warned journalists they were prohibited by law from identifying Mubin Shaikh, the self-professed "fundamentalist" Muslim confirmed his involvement in the investigation to the CBC.

In an interview broadcast yesterday, Mr. Shaikh described how he was recruited by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service into providing information on extremist activities

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=09b2b3ca-1378-4c10-af78-c5d42d4e9d2d

[Kagemusha]

1. The alarmist headline deserves a caveat

The campaign was to enable the use of Sharia law to resolve family law disputes within Muslim communities, much like Jewish law is used for Jews in a similar context. Even this shocked people but, that's a far cry from enforcing veils on women who don't want to wear them and splashing acid in the faces of those who don't comply. It's not at all like trying to establish it in Nigerian communities as a way to undermine the secular national government.

Not saying I support this guy's campaign at all; just saying, it's apples and oranges because of the limited context of the Canadian campaign. Bringing it to Ontario does not imply imposing it on Ontario by a campaign of terrorist violence. Though that's how a reasonable person might otherwise read this headline.

[applegrove]

2. Likewise. I saw no way that Canadian provinces could have cultural

tribunals for one culture.. and not another. Ontario did the right thing and pulled the plug on all cultural tribunals. Was the right thing to do.

[MrPrax]

3. I thought it was inflammatory...

as well. But it is the National Post, so that would be expected.

I posted a Globe story in the Canada forum about him, that is somewhat critical, but without the anti-Islamic hints.

There are tons of holes in the 'Canuck terror' case and this guy as an informant pretty well seals it for me. Essentially the implications are that the Canadian service is no more interested in protecting the country than it is 'creating' photos ops of 'terrorists' for political purposes.

One thing about it though, since the guy is being so public about his 'undercover' work, it will hard for CSIS/RCMP to deny they had an informant and so they won't have to accidently erase anything like they did years ago in the Air India bombing...

[Kagemusha]

4. I have no idea if this is a pure photo op or not.

I'm relieved that at least in one country, such charges will have to be proven in a court of law.

[struggle4progress]

5. RCMP informant's public admissions raise questions among suspects' lawyers

Chinta Puxley And Clement-Meoni Poon, Canadian Press
Published: Friday, July 14, 2006

TORONTO (CP) - An RCMP informant's public admission of having infiltrated a group of alleged "homegrown" terrorists raised questions Friday among the suspects' lawyers about whether the mole was simply a passive observer ...

The 12 men and five youth were arrested on June 2 and charged with participating in a terrorist group and other terrorist-related offences. A youth was granted bail Friday, becoming the first of the group to be released pending a possible trial.

The need for authorities to employ a mole in their investigation shows that there's "no terrorism in Canada," said lawyer Rocco Galati - who represents terror suspect Ahmad Ghany.

Galati alleged that the police didn't have a case against the accused, so they relied on an informant to "set everything up." ..

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=053b8e5b-b892-42de-b1f6-b52eb1e75334&k=53790

[CHIMO]

6. Civil liberties group queries RCMP decision during campaign

Civil liberties group queries RCMP decision during campaign
Last Updated Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:27:37 EDT
CBC News

The B.C. Civil Liberties Association is trying to determine what lay behind the RCMP's decision to announce a politically charged investigation in the middle of the last federal election campaign.

The association has asked the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP to look into the force's rationale for announcing an investigation in December into the possible leak of sensitive financial information.

The possible leak, involving the tax treatment of income trusts by then Liberal finance minister Ralph Goodale, became an election issue after the RCMP disclosed the criminal investigation on Dec. 28. The Conservatives won the Jan. 23 vote, replacing the minority Liberal government.

After the announcement, Conservative Leader Stephen Harper said the incident followed the pattern of Liberal corruption and entitlement.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/07/14/trusts-mounties.html

[struggle4progress]

7. Gotta wonder how far they'll go for political gains: Mubin Shaikh ..

.. was constantly in the news during the sharia controversy, which -- since he's now known to have been a paid RCMP informant -- just makes me wonder if the sharia controversy wasn't engineered ...

[CHIMO]

8. Wouldn't

Doubt the possibility.

However, he was not a paid RCMP informant but it seems a CSIS informant. It appears that both the RCMP and CSIS are now on the same wavelength.

I wonder how CSIS gets so involved on affairs in Canada and not led by the RCMP.

The whole thing stinks of another "Red Barn".

[struggle4progress]

9. Some inconsistency in the press about whose informant he was?

OP says OSIS. Link I posted says RCMP.

I don't know anything about Red Barn.

[CHIMO]

10. Red Barn

Is pretty old, so google searching doesn't turn up much.

Here is the first piece that I turned up.

Campus cloak-and-dagger

New book details 80 years of RCMP spies at universities


Not until the 1970s did things start to change, Hewitt explained. Internal questioning of the illegal activities led to the government instituting a specific mandate for the security service, restricting what the RCMP could do to collect information. In spite of this, however, the RCMP continued to break the law, and a number of scandals occurred in relation to RCMP investigations of Quebec separatists.
“The most infamous involved a barn-burning by the RCMP security service because they were worried about members of the FLQ meeting up with Black Panthers from the U.S. They were going to meet at this barn, couldn’t plant a microphone, so they burnt the barn down,” he said.
But in reality, most campuses were so conservative no real information was gathered, said Hewitt. Most of the information collected over the years was never used and most of it was ultimately destroyed, he said.

http://umanitoba.ca/manitoban/2002-2003/0115/news_7.shtml

[struggle4progress]

11. Thanx