NYT: Behind Bush's Fury, a Vow Made in 2001

[DeepModem Mom]

Behind Bush's Fury, a Vow Made in 2001
By SCOTT SHANE
Published: June 29, 2006

WASHINGTON, June 28 — Ever since President Bush vowed days after the Sept. 11 attacks to "follow the money as a trail to the terrorists," the government has made no secret of its efforts to hunt down the bank accounts of Al Qaeda and its allies.

But that fact has not muted the fury of Mr. Bush, his top aides and many members of Congress at the decision last week by The New York Times and other newspapers to disclose a centerpiece of that hunt: the Treasury Department's search for clues in a vast database of financial transactions maintained by a Belgium-based banking consortium known as Swift.

Speaking at a fund-raising event in St. Louis for Senator Jim Talent, Mr. Bush made the news reports his central theme.

"This program has been a vital tool in the war on terror," Mr. Bush said. "Last week the details of this program appeared in the press."

Mr. Bush received a prolonged, standing ovation from the Republican crowd when he added, "There can be no excuse for anyone entrusted with vital intelligence to leak it — and no excuse for any newspaper to print it."...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/29/washington/29intel.html

[uppityperson]

1. Mr.bush, wtf is the "war on terror"? How do we judge progress?

That is what I would like to ask him.

[IDemo]

2. Mr. Bush, meet Bob Novak and Valerie Plame

"There can be no excuse for anyone entrusted with vital intelligence to leak it — and no excuse for any newspaper to print it."...

[E-Z-B]

36. Good point. This coming from a man who said he still supports Rove.

Despite him leaking classified information to reporters.

[ShockediSay]

52. This is all Rove's smokescreen to cover data mining from our phone

calls and emails w/out the judicial check and balance of a warrant.

We know how these Reich Wingers deal w/ political dissent.

Don't get smokescreened! Focus on warrantless secret police spying on US citizen phone calls and emails!

:rant:

[Erika]

3. The details have been out there since 2001

W owes the New York Times an apology.

[pokercat999]

17. L heard yesterday the the Wall Street Journal had

published this information before or at the same time as the Post. Hmmmm, guess if you're the RW's mouth piece rag you can reveal these valuable secrets without a second thought.

[hatrack]

4. Ooh! Bush's Fury! Hold me! I'm a-scared!

Fucking assclown. It couldn't be an election, year, could it?
:sarcasm:

[Buns_of_Fire]

18. Wow! Whatta MAN! Whatta MANLY-MAN!

The only "fury" boosh* can muster is when they forget to bring his favorite pilly on AF1. Rough tough creampuff.

If the NYT hadn't already compromised themselves by helping to cheerlead boosh's* war, a simple "Kiss my ass" would suffice as their only comment.

[DesEtoiles]

5. Snap!

[Skip Intro]

6. "Mr. Bush received a prolonged standing ovation from the Republican crowd"

[Kenergy]

13. Good pic Skip, and appropos n/t

[PurpleChez]

21. Artfully done!

Now, you're not actually comparing the chimp to Hitler now, are you? ;)

[rfranklin]

23. Of course not...just comparing Republicans to Nazis...

Similar psychological characteristics and emotional makeup.

[PurpleChez]

26. Right on!!!

[BrokenBeyondRepair]

7. doubt bush wants the bank accounts of AQ and it's 'allies'

to be revealed.. people might ask questions that lead to the truth

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&the_isi:_a_more_detailed_look=mahmoodAhmed

[ginnyinWI]

8. They want to make noise but not actually do anything about it.

Frist has said it doesn't warrant investigation, but all the while he says the people need to speak out against this outrage. He represents those people but is going to do nothing legislatively. An investigation might be a bit dicey for the prez.

[DoYouEverWonder]

16. You got it

Despite the Patriot Act, listening to everyone's phone calls, and collecting data from our telephone records to our library records, the DOJ has not caught and brought to trial any 'real' terrorists since 9-11. Makes you wonder?

BTW: Welcome to DU :hi:

[ClintonTyree]

22. What about those blood thirsty desperadoes in Miami?

The ones that didn't have any weapons, explosives, training or money but were CERTAINLY mere moments away from blowing up the Sears Tower in Chicago? :eyes: Boosh stopped them dead in their tracks, and not a moment to soon! They were mere minutes away from shopping at a fireworks store when apprehended. Just think, if they had been allowed to buy the "giant economy pack" of Black Cat firecrackers Chicago would be nothing but rubble right now! :rofl:

[BrokenBeyondRepair]

46. i don't wonder at all anymore..

911 was an inside job executed with military precision; classic Hegelian principle

:toast:

[PerfectSage]

51. welome to DU

:beer: :toast:

[ThsMchneKilsFascists]

9. like how shrub's first business partner was OBL's brother

holy crap the propaganda's thick and heavy

[PurpleChez]

24. Welcome, pardner. I love your user name.

When we were expecting a few years back my favorite boy's name was "Guthrie," after Woody. The only problem was that we already had a dog named Arloe. (The 'e' denoted that she was a girl.) In the end we had a daughter, so -- as Jesse Jackson might say -- the question was moot.

[MagickMuffin]

10. Here's the OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE from SEPT. 24, 2001

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/print/20010924-4.html

[ClintonTyree]

27. It's never too late for righteous indignation........

especially since midterm elections are coming up. They have to throw some red-meat to their CONservative base to get them fired up and into the polling places in November. What better way than chastising the "librul media"? This is SOOOOO transparent to any THINKING person, which of course excludes any Boosh supporters. Thinking isn't their strong suit. So this WILL work to get his brain-dead base excited, they're too stoopid to realize they're being manipulated. Again.

[MagickMuffin]

28. Righteous Indignation Indeed!

You must have been reading my mind. Now go read my blog.
Check it out....:evilgrin:

[grasswire]

11. BOGUS

This is a bunch of crap.

[pfitz59]

12. Money trail leads straight to.........

THE BFEE! Smoke and mirrors! "The 'lady' doth protest too much!"

[Kenergy]

14. I believe if the truth were known

all paths would lead back to this corrupt administration. I believe the CIA, NSA, FBI and the
Pentagon are all complicit in this phony war and 911.

[krispos42]

15. Follow the money!

I wonder where the path paved with oil money would lead if we could follow it. From the blue-collar joe filling up at the station to the oil company, to the MidEast for the crude, to the oil sheiks that control the system, back to the US in the form of political favors and bond purchases to keap the Treasury afloat...

Now I find it awfully interesting that the Bush family is up to its eyeballs in oil money, they are close friends and buddies with a family of oil sheiks called "Bin Laden", and the oil sheiks are making money hand over fist because of the oil price spike due to the ongoing conflict in Iraq , which is financed by the sheiks loaning the money to the US government (with interest, of course), which justifies deficit spending because "we're fighing a global war on terror" AND allows tax cuts for the super-rich, who plow that money back into political favors and re-election campaigns to keep their pet legislators on a leash, who don't threaten the cash cow by actually investigating the Bush family.

Holy shit, I just reread what I wrote. No wonder Bush doesn't want to call attention to forensic accounting! The path leads back to him!

[wagthedogwar]

20. maybe good/ maybe bad...

I for one, am very happy that the Office of the Unitary President now has the power to trace financial transactions...and I'm just waiting for the day...when we get to elect a no bullshit Democratic President (who isn't held hostage to private interests or religious nut bags) and can investigate all the bullshit that has gone on in the last 5years; then, we can finally nail these fuckers to the wall and make them pay for what they have done.

Follow the money indeed--all they way back to the Bush/BinLaden oil deals and why ole Georgie's boys fucked their pal BinLaden over.


*oh and just to add, maybe we should investigate all the press whores to find out just who and how much they got paid, for 'servicing' the powerful.

[MagickMuffin]

38. George HW Bush to Host US-Arab Economic Conference Next week

This was posted in the Texas Forum. Poppy loves to play host to the Saudi's....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=180x33682

There is another link to the article but I wasn't able to access it, gave me a warning it wasn't a secure site.
So, I was :scared: about going ahead and linking to it.

[outofbounds]

40. I think your dead on

Osama's Father: President Bush, I'm so sorry my son organized and attacked your country

W: Well Sh sshiek b bBin Laden I w wwas a Ho ho horrible thing, we we are going to have to kill him

Osama's Father: Ohh please Mr President, we go way back, after all Me and My other children have done for your family, could you please spare his life? I'll give you whatever you want. Anything.

W: It's going to be hard to slip th this by the Am American people, but I'll try.

Osama's Father: How will you do this Mr. President and thank you for this wonderful gift.

W: Well I I'll invade Iraq under the pretense of W.M.D's and liberate those people from the man who tried to kill my daddy. And I'll get the U.N. to tell me where Saddam buried his chemical weapons so I can act as if we found something if our people gets to suspicious.

Osama's Father: I knew you were a good investment even if you can't run an oil company. Arbusto had me skeptical but I always knew I could count on You.

The typo's represent W's stutter.

[deminks]

19. Ask Judy Miller about following the money.

The untold story about Ms. Miller. Who exactly tipped her off that two charities were about to be raided shortly after septembertheeleventh? Patrick Fitzgerald would like to know. Why exactly did she and her cohort call the charities and tell them. To get their reaction? I don't think so. Remember, she is a player, not a reporter.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4953685

[teryang]

25. They never followed the money- Bush fury equals big lie.

They never followed the trail of put options placed on the corporations adversely affected by 911. This money trail would have led directly to the persons who had advance knowledge of the attacks. Why aren't corporate executives from Deutschebank AB subpoenaed and questioned under oath about this activity? Why aren't the account holders identified and subpoenaed?

Nor did they follow and publicize the financing of the alleged 911 terrorists that came directly from figures in the Pakistani and Saudi governments.

It is amazing that they get away with this posturing about their phony war on terror. They ARE the terrorists.

[Tuttle]

48. still baffles me too...

n/t

Tut-tut

[Demeter]

29. Did Bush Look Under His Desk?

The money is guarded by Saddam's WMDs.

[deminks]

30. ...

[IndianaGreen]

31. Our dictator throws temper tantrums just like Hitler did

He is probably as drugged out and crazy as Hitler was towards the end of the Third Reich.

Who knows how many other secrets of his regime's crimes Bush is trying to protect from prying eyes?

[saigon68]

34. Hitler Had more Brains

Monkey Man is just his daddy's puppet

[kentjay44]

32. the flap between the nyt

and bush is a planned attack,bush and his gestapo have learned of probable attacks by terrorists,thus the nazis` need a scapegoat,someone to bLamE it on.you know bush cut and ran on 9/11 to a bunker somewhere in bum fuck eygpt.so,expect an attack shortly,could be one made-up like the 7 terrorists in fl.BILL KELLER,TELL BUSH TO GO FUCK HIMSELF.

[soup]

33. which vow made in 2001?

Mid-July 2001: John O’Neill Rails Against White House and Saudi Obstructionism

FBI counterterrorism expert John O’Neill privately discusses White House obstruction in his bin Laden investigation. O’Neill says, “The main obstacles to investigate Islamic terrorism were US oil corporate interests and the role played by Saudi Arabia in it.” He adds, “All the answers, everything needed to dismantle Osama bin Laden’s organization, can be found in Saudi Arabia.” O’Neill also believes the White House is obstructing his investigation of bin Laden because they are still keeping the idea of a pipeline deal with the Taliban open (see July 21, 2001).
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a072101berlin

'Follow the money trail', indeed...
Carpets of gold or carpets of bombs....

[rosesaylavee]

35. Assessing the damage?

The director of national intelligence, John D. Negroponte, has ordered an assessment of any damage to counter terrorism efforts from the disclosures, but the review is expected to take months, and its findings are likely to remain classified.

Assessment of damage to counter terrorism efforts, eh? Just like they did when Plame was exposed right? What damage was assessed then? Do we know how many agents were compromised or 'offed'.

Bloody fool.

[Igel]

49. No, we don't know.

Some people believe they know. They don't. They know nothing.

The assessment was probably done. The results are known to those who have classification to know. The same will occur with the SWIFT-monitoring scheme. If the info is released, it'll be to serve either the CIA's or their bosses' interests, not ours.

When the CIA determines how many people were compromised, they base their assessment on agency-internal information. To release that number is to release additional information. Let's say 45 people were compromised; does the group that was monitored know there were 45? If not, you've told them to dig deeper to find additional agents.

[The Wizard]

37. Another Big GOP Circle Jerk

With their base sitting in the pivot position. Now if only they could find a stained blue dress.
They're good at hissy fits and weak on performance.
And for those who "know" Valerie Plame was a desk jockey, please report to the office of special counsel and reveal your sources.
CIA employees' status should be secret as revealing the identity of those who aren't covert reveals the covert status of those who aren't known to be "desk jockeys."
Special note to Karl Goebbels/Rove: Go fuck yourself and come out of the closet.

[leveymg]

39. Look at your own funding sources. If you trace Abramoff and Norquist

operations you'll find the same al-Qaeda "Golden Chain" bankers and Russian-Israeli-Turkish Mafyia money that funded A.Q. Khan's nuclear proliferation network and lined the pockets of Speaker Hastert and other GOP biggies, including your own election campaign.

And, then, there was that little cabal started in the Vice President's office who destroyed the CIA's counter-proliferation unit. You might want to start your investigation there, if you're really so furious, Dubya.

You should be indicted, you lying little shit.

[Supersedeas]

41. what is Libby and Rove's excuse; & what is Novak's excuse for printing it

oh, that was politically expedient, was it?

[dailykoff]

42. Is this they're way of saying they're sorry

for actually reporting a story? Bet that won't happen again soon!

[rocktivity]

43. The details of SWIFT have appeared on the internet and Bush speeches!

Why is the world did the Times leave THAT out of their orginal story?

:headbang:
rocknation

[WePurrsevere]

47. This information should be shoved down the throats of every person

attacking the NYT for publishing what actaully was not new or secret information (and may they all choke on it). Then the NYT's needs to admit they were wrong about it's being "secret" and then take this info and run with it as well.

[leesa]

44. Oh really. That's why James Baker III, Bush family lawyer, defended the

Saudis AGAINST the families of 9-11 victims as they tried to find the terrorist money trail. That's why Bush/Cheney outed Valerie Plame whose job it was to follow the terrorist WMD money trail.

I believe that one!

[ArmchairMeme]

45. Clues here

It seems to me that the most important clues have appeared here in the replies to this item.

If the wiretaps that have been done for so many years why can't they find the terra suspects?

If the tracking of banking records has been done for so many years why can't they find the money trail?

Perhaps tracking Americans is the wrong place to look.

Go back to BCCI in which both Bush and Bin Laden were involved. Perhaps it is sour grapes.

Go back to his oil company failure when the Arabs bailed him out. Perhaps Bush is looking for better investment opportunities.

If so many people in the common public can figure this all out why can't the person sitting in the oval office?

"Intolerance betrays want of faith in one's cause." -- Gandhi

[teryang]

50. Transparency in money trails is the last thing they want

All money trails lead to the executive office via wall street.