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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:08 AM
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AP: Congressional Hopeful Blames Troubles On The Devil
SALT LAKE CITY - Republican congressional hopeful John Jacob believes the devil is impeding his efforts to unseat five-term Representitive Chris Gannon.

He says there's another force that wants to keep him from going to Washington and the devil is what it is.

Jacob says that since he decided to run for Congress, Satan has disrupted his business deals, preventing him from putting as much money into the race as he had hoped.

Jacob said during a Wednesday immigration event that the devil was working against him, then reiterated his belief yesterday in a meeting with The Salt Lake Tribune editorial board.

He says there's been a lot of adversity, and there's no question he has had experiences that he believes are due to an outside force.

http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_174090621.html
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:10 AM
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1. Nutcase. (nt)
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bluefish Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:14 AM
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4. Yup n/t
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:31 AM
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11. Here is the demon who is haunting him
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theguvnorgc Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 12:43 PM
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23. de devilb gowt mee...
am trying to type reply, but devils got control of myt hanndss now....heelllp!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 12:01 PM
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18. yup again
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 12:07 PM
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19. No kidding!
As a republi-CON, you're in LEAGUE with the Devil, asshole. By definition.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:11 AM
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2. In the real world, this motherfucker would be dismissed as insane
and not a single vote would go to him. Unfortunately, we don't live in the real world and the fundies are surely eating this up.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:01 PM
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29. in BushFundieWorld, this guy's gonna make a great congressman
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:12 AM
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3. Thank God I don't live in a 'faith-based' world! I'd be seeing that ole
devil everywhere!
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 12:23 PM
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20. Well, I see him everywhere on TV. Wearing Mad George's body.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:17 AM
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5. He's deluded. That's Jesus, telling him not to run. . . . n/t


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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:20 AM
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6. wow.
This delusional psychopath wants to go to congress? If he really believes that 'Satan' is working to prevent him from going to congress he needs to be locked up.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:21 AM
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7. if he actually believes that
then he's a major nutcase.

HOWEVER, if he is playing to the Salt Lake City wackos, it is pretty smart. A "Vote for me, Fight the Devil" slogan would play well out there.
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:43 AM
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8. His thinking
such as it is, is just wrong on so many levels.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:14 AM
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9. Wonder why, he thinks this "outside force" is the devil?
Wouldn't it be as likely - from his referent point (that Satan and God control things in his life) - that the "outside force" could be God telling him not to run for Congress?

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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:20 AM
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10. I assumed it was a Republican.
What else is new :eyes:
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:33 AM
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12. The devil made him do it
I miss Flip Wilson.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:40 AM
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13. Sounds like the devil wrote his biography at his website:
While at B.Y.U., I joined with Bill Brown and sold real estate. Jimmy Carter's disastrous economy with double-digit interest rates ended up putting me out of work. Then the country did a most remarkable thing in electing Ronald Reagan. He inspired me when he said, "A recession is when your neighbor is out of work. A depression is when you are out of work. And a recovery is when Jimmy Carter is out of work." My recovery was when President Reagan fired the striking Air Traffic Controllers and I became one. I applied with the Federal Aviation Administration, went to school in Oklahoma, and was sent to Cut Bank, Montana and Littleton, Colorado with the FAA. While a traffic controller I was elected to be our union facilities representative, where I was able to work with management not against them.
(snip)
http://www.electjohnjacob.com/2.0/bio.php
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:45 AM
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17. So he was a scab!
There were several air crashes blamed on pilot error that suspiciously appeared to have been caused by the incompetents hired after Reagan destroyed PATCO.

In case anyone forgets, PATCO was concerned about air safety which was directly linked to their work hours.

BTW, where were the Democrats on the PATCO strike?

The Air Traffic Controllers' Strike of 1981

By: Nick Bucher


The air traffic controllers' strike of 1981 has been viewed as one of the major labor strikes in recent history. This labor strike showed the members of the Professional Air Traffic Controllers Association's (PATCO) concern with the working conditions they were provided with by the Federal Aviation Agency (FAA). This strike was not a strike of abruptness and without warning. PATCO had been having problems and complaints with how the FAA was running their operations and treating their employees many years before this actual strike. The FAA's inability to recognize and act upon these complaints over time played a major role in PATCO's strong stand and eventual strike. According to Joe Simonetta of Hoover's Manufacturing and Industry team, "The air traffic control strike of 1981 has become a symbol of the decline of organized labor in the U.S. (2000)"

According to the Workmen's Circle Arbeter Ring, "The Air Traffic Controllers' (ATC) strike of 1981 marked a symbolic turning point in labor management relations (1997)." On August 3, 1981 almost 13,000 air traffic controllers went on strike after months of negotiations with the federal government. During these contract talks, Robert Poli, president of PATCO, explained the union's three major demands as a $10,000 across the board raise, a 32-hour work week (down from 40), and a better retirement package. While the press mainly concentrated on the demand for a pay raise, other commentators and reporters began to realize that this walkout was not solely, or even primarily, an economic issue. According to the essay written by Pels, Newsweek noted, "controllers concede their chief complaint was not money, but hours, working conditions, and a lack of recognition for the pressures they face (1995)." By saying this, PATCO members were hoping to relieve members of the FAA and encourage them to negotiate these issues in order to reach an agreement. Even with the issue of salary lowered from the top of their list, such views had little impact on the negotiations. So according to McLaughlin, "One of the most important thing Ronald Reagan did during his presidency was break the 1981 air traffic controllers' strike, which helped break the hold of organized labor over the U.S. economy (1999)." Pels states, "48 Hours after the walkout, he proceeded to fire the 11,350 ATC's (almost 70% of the workforce) who had not returned to work. In case the message was still unclear, he declared a lifetime ban on the rehiring of the strikers by the FAA (1995)."

The main issue most people failed to see surrounding the strike was control of the workplace. Many historians have debated whether workplace control is still a key issue in late twentieth century management-worker relations. This strike between the two groups did not just come out of nowhere. Struggles between the FAA and PATCO had been going on ever since PATCO's formation in 1968. Pels claims, "The PATCO controversy is particularly useful in illustrating such an assessment of how factors such as technological advances and the discourse and substance of labor-management bargaining since World War II have served to mask the ongoing struggle between the FAA and the air traffic controllers, which is often to the disadvantage of the workers involved (1995)." First, both parties' main goal is to assure the maximum safety of air travel. This leads to suspect that management's search for profits and workers' search for job satisfaction is not the factor for the division of the two groups. Second, the FAA possessed a monopoly over the training and hiring of air traffic controllers (except for a small percentage who worked for the military). Since this was the case, most ATC's had little choice but to work for the government. They therefore had a large stake in work conditions and benefits. The same factors gave the FAA a stronger force in dealing with its workforce. Third, the majority of controllers found their work very challenging, exciting, and interesting. This indicates that the complaints from the controllers must have run deeper than unhappiness with the occupation itself. Finally, the advancement of technology played a key role in both the cause and the resolution of the strike. With the advancement of equipment came greater air traffic volume and increased demands on ATC capabilities made possible by this new technology. Along with this came faulty equipment and autocratic management that limited workplace independence. Combining all of this came the ATC's singling out stress as their primary motive for striking. Yet neither PATCO nor the controllers made this connection explicit or strongly challenged management privilege to decide the nature and purpose of computers in air towers (Pels, 1995).

The FAA commissioned a study in 1972 headed by Dr. Robert Rose, known as the Rose Report, which found the job of an air traffic controller was not stressful within itself. However, the researchers found that many of the stresses related with the job, indicated by high levels of drinking and depression, were due to autocratic management and a system, which included little reward and a fear of burnout. I think this can be argued as very true today in the 21st century. With the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, I could definitely see the stresses related to the job causing major concerns for not only the controllers and pilots of the plains, but also their families as well. The contrast I can see is that advancement in the overall technology and security throughout the airports show me that the FAA is definitely looking into the interests of their employees. Controllers began to notice that these stresses were not only affecting their job performance but also their life away from work. Working 6 days a week and 10 hours a day at times disrupted their family life at home. These controllers were not just striking for higher wages, but also improved equipment, which could very possibly lead to fewer hours. This would enable them to spend more time at home and enjoy much less disruption from their everyday life as a family. Even with the findings of the Rose Report, FAA officials continued to ignore these conclusions. On top of all this, the FAA was demanding that controllers handle increasing traffic loads with staffing that was already below the agency's own standards. Then even when the union pointed out the problem, the FAA revised its facility staffing standards to legitimize the situation.

http://www.stfrancis.edu/ba/ghkickul/stuwebs/btopics/works/atcstrike.htm
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 01:24 PM
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36. Yep, I've never flown since. And a damn fine question: Where WERE
the Dems? Dammit!
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 12:26 PM
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21. That explains the air traffic snafus
during the Reagan years. Seasoned controllers with expert training were fired and replaced with on-the-job-training neophytes.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 05:02 PM
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25. So it was Carter's fault when he went out of business
but now that Mad king Boy George and the ReThuglicans are in charge it's Satan/the Devil?


Jacob says that since he decided to run for Congress, Satan has disrupted his business deals, preventing him from putting as much money into the race as he had hoped.:evilgrin:


What a load of crap!





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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 04:00 AM
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30. Everything that happens in his life is because of someone else - Party of
Personal Responsibility my ass.

Can't make a buziness work? Democrats fault
Got a New job? St Ronnie is the reason
Can't get elected to Congress? Devil's fault
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:41 AM
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14. How does he know Bush is keeping him from winning? nt
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:35 AM
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15. That darn Satan!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:45 AM
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16. Now that Satan has done his job in Nevada, can we get him to
move along to some other states? :evilgrin:
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 12:34 PM
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22. Looking for sympathy votes from stupid people
Wake up Salt Lake City...you're being played for fools.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 04:25 PM
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24. He sounds like the Church Lady, from the old Saturday Night Live
We are surrounded by things that used to parody.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:21 PM
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26. He's a con man but he's also ...
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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:29 PM
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27. so
2000 -- supremely suspicious
2004 -- stolen
2520+ -- sacrificed
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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:18 PM
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28. So he wants to blame Carter for his failure?
I guess he's not one of those Republicans that believe in personal responsibility?:eyes:
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 04:36 AM
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31. Here's some other info
This article deals with how much wealth Jacob and his opponent have to use in their campaign against each other.

Fellow Republican John Jacob, a land and real estate developer, is going after Cannon, R-Utah. Jacob, who says he is worth around $19 million net, says he may put more than $1 million of his own money in the race.

"I'm in this to win. I will do whatever is necessary" financially, Jacob said. He adds he does not want to give the impression he is trying to buy the seat.

Jacob added that until a few months ago he was planning on running against U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch next year. He said he decided against it after talking to Hatch and examining his record. But Jacob acknowledges that Hatch's $2 million war chest had something to do with that decision.

"I'd have had to spend $5 million" — much of it his own money — to offset Hatch's $2 million, Jacob said.


http://deseretnews.com/dn/print/1,1442,635165891,00.html


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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:24 AM
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32. Poor thing
He sounds mentally ill.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:24 AM
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33. When it comes to winning votes by stirring up fears, no one does it better
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 12:06 PM
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34. Maybe Cheney will use his Satanic Executive Devil Power
to help him showing the backwards benevolence of the devil incarnate.

You just can't make this stuff up from those trapped on the wingnuttery farm. :rofl:
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 12:10 PM
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35. This guy is the poster child for rightwing insanity. n/t
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