Protest planned today for Gore book signing (HillaryNow.com group)

[sabra]

http://www.gallatinnewsexaminer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060623/NEWS02/60623004

Protest planned today for Gore book signing

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HillaryNow.com members will be protesting Al Gore from 11 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. today at the Green Hills Mall during the book signing at Davis Kidd Booksellers, also in Green Hills.

HillaryNow.com is an online group that supports the running of former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 presidential election.

Ellie Stevenson of Hendersonville, a member of the group, said protesters will gather peacefully because they feel Gore is the only person who could block Clinton’s nomination in the 2008 election.

Stevenson also said many protestors are upset because of the war in Iraq.

“If (Gore) had stood his ground in 2002, America would not be in the mess we’re in now,” Stevenson said.

[TayTay]

1. That makes no sense at all

Why are the HillaryNow people protesting Gore? He is not running.

[NYCGirl]

2. They're protesting because they crave attention? NT

[agio]

7. they've got a lot of cardboard signs...

... and they've got to protest somebody?

:shrug:

[marmar]

21. Less than no sense...

:wtf:

[Julius Civitatus]

42. MORONS!!!!

Absolute, complete MORONS!!!
The Democratic circular firing squad has begun! Nobody does the job of bashing Democrats better than Democrats themselves. This is just embarrassing.

[Pharaoh]

3. These people have nothing better to do?

what a bunch of losers!

[evlbstrd]

4. Where was Gore in 2002?

Opposed to the war, but completely out of power. If Hillary had actually been a Dem leader against the war in 2002, who knows? These are very confused people.

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. They sound like

DST DFA members.

LOL

Confused is right. :crazy:

[Mabus]

27. bwhahahahahaha

:spray:

[proud2BlibKansan]

31. Check your PM

I gots some noos for you.

[Mabus]

36. That's how I got here

unless you sent another one. But I'll keep checking.

[proud2BlibKansan]

43. This one is better than the first one

Great news!!

[Mabus]

46. see my post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2352698&mesg_id=2352840

I'll help you and evl berate my hubby for this at the next meetup.

[Mabus]

52. Got it

Power to the people.

[Mz Pip]

5. Way to look stupid.

That's all Hillary needs - supporters protesting Al Gore. What do they possibly hope to accomplish?

Mz Pip
:dem:

[babylonsister]

6. What a waste of time and brain cells! As of now Gore isn't even

running. And what ground was Gore supposed to stand in 2002?
Finally, not a word about the message in his book?:banghead:

[roguevalley]

11. this disgusts me. i wonder whether they are some cockamamie

repug group pretending to support her. she needs to denounce this immediately.

[babylonsister]

14. It'd be in her best interests to denounce these wayward f'tards. nt

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. That was my first thought as well.

[Nickster]

19. Exactamundo! Repubs in disguise....bet this gets picked up by all the

pundits wanting to show the great divide between Clintons and Gore and the whole of the Dem party. Just watch!

[CBHagman]

95. That's actually the first thing I thought.

For all that Democrats are a rowdy bunch, my hunch was that this was some kind of Karl Rove type dirty trick to embarrass Gore and get more public exposure for the idea of Democratic disunity.

[halobeam]

18. Excellent point. Why not one word about his book?

What politicizing going on about global warming. It goes on and on. In obvious ways, and rather subtle ways too.

[ShortnFiery]

8. The Hillary.now people should join forces with the nut case right wing

elements in this Country. For different reasons - BOTH are equally delusional. How's the view when yo find your head stuck securely up your a**? "Clueless" is a profound understatement for what's motivating these SAD people. :thumbsdown:

[zreosumgame]

are we sure they are not already?

sure is possible this is a 'stealth' group

[Tesha]

40. They are probably fully-funded by the Reich Wing. (NT)

[Strelnikov_]

75. A Prima Facie Conclusion, Considering Their Moronic Statements n/t

[struggle4progress]

89. The site seems mainly a promo for the org's cheesy flounder:

Typical quote: "B- K- is one of America's leading Activists."

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. So have they posted this notice on all the local RW blog sites?

I can't imagine anyone other than a RWer supporting Hillary's nomination over Gore's.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

10. What's up with this part of the statement:

“If (Gore) had stood his ground in 2002, America would not be in the mess we’re in now,” Stevenson said."

Ummm Ms. Stevenson, Al Gore wasn't even in office in 2002, so what exactly are you protesting him for????

[nickinSTL]

13. uh...

:wtf:

1.Gore isn't running
2.Gore was not in any position to do ANYTHING in 2002...Clinton was, where was she?
3.Gore is the ONLY one who could prevent Clinton's nom? :rofl:

[demnan]

16. Here we go again

Infighting amongst ourselves.

[Dhalgren]

23. I can't believe that Hillary.Now people are actually pro-Clinton.

Anyone who is politically savvy would not make the statements attributed to this spokesperson -or- this is some kind of bizarre swift-boating that is attacking both Gore AND Clinton. This is far too stupid to be Democratic infighting...

[SmokingJacket]

35. I'd bet money they're not democrats. nt

[Terran1212]

17. OK, so we're saying HILARY people are blaming GORE for the WAR?!

W...T..F

[no_hypocrisy]

20. WTF?! n/t

[BlueCaliDem]

22. Like I've read and said many times over, those who want Hillary...

...to run for President are, for the most part, Republicans. This helps to get the Clinton-hating group of ignorants on their side out to vote for whatever clown they're planning to put out.

How can we be sure this "HillaryNow.com" people are Democrats, and/or Progressives, if ever, Clinton fans?

I think this is nothing more than "sheep in wolf's clothing" Repubs following the Rove Handbook of Win No Matter HOW.

Outside our Congressional leaders, Democrats, Progressives and Liberals aren't stupid, and protesting, and making former VP Al Gore look like an outcast in the Democratic Party after the show of discourse among Senate Democrats from yesterday, is as stupid as one can get---from a Democratic, Liberal, and Progressive's standpoint.

However, from a Repuke's standpoint, it's brilliant.

[Dhalgren]

26. Senator Clinton should drop whatever she is doing and go to

the book signing as a show of friendship and respect. Al could then take the opportunity to speak glowingly of Clinton's work and positions (where he can) and reinforce the fact that they are friends. This would torpedo this blatant swift-boating and would get media attention because of the (no doubt) big coverage this attempt at smearing will have.

[BlueCaliDem]

61. That would CERTAINLY do the trick! Question is...

...will Senator Clinton do such a brave, and courageous thing?

The problem with demonizing Democratic politicians, is that Rove is getting WAY too much (free!) help from the Democratic Party members themselves.

I'm still miffed that our party did not stand as one with Feingold/Kerry, and/or Levin/Reed yesterday. I just think, that even if they disagree, the very LEAST they could've done was vote as one voice like the Repubs are wont to do.

But then again, with Democratic colleagues on the Hill like Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Dianne Feinstein of California, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut...who needs Republicans to make the Democratic Party look "wishy-washy"?

And I'm tired of hearing the excuse that "Democrats are progressives, and aren't monolithic, and have a mind of their own", when they continually vote for egregious bills that go against what the Party stands for, and what always hurt the American people presented by American-hating Repukes, like that GD Bankruptcy Reform bill written by credit card companies and other greedy financial institutions.

That excuse no longer holds any water with me.

[rodeodance]

24. I hate to see Dems publicly fighting like this.

[Dhalgren]

28. I think (and hope) that this is just a bizarre swift-boating...

[LostinVA]

29. How do you know they're Dems?

Seriously. I'm not much of a tinfoil hatter, but this? Hmmm.....

[Panda1]

39. A quick google of their "leader"

Bob Kunst, shows clearly the "group" is not affiliated with Hillary Clinton at all. This is total bullshit.
Those of us opposed to the war in Iraq have a list a mile long of people we'd protest and Gore isn't on that list.
This whole thing smells. Mr. Kunst smells.
Anyone can set up a site like this http://hillarynow.com/ (Longevity means nothing....the thugs have been plotting the overthrow of Democracy for decades) It's not tinfoil to suspect underhanded tactics from the wingers.
http://hillarynow.com/kunst.htm

[LostinVA]

54. Yup, that's what I thought, too

These people are as "Pro Hillary" and "Democratic" as FR.... liberals don't attack Al Gore... especially saying Gore didn't stand his ground... what was he supposed to do, take over the Supreme Court?

[Panda1]

59. Indeed

Freepers were the first "people" I thought of too. If it acts like a plant, smells like a plant, it's a plant. Only insane wingnuts who hate the environment would protest Gore and I don't know one Democrat who fits that description. As for the calls by some for Hillary to publicly denounce this group...it would only lend credence to their operation and give them further undeserved publicity. It's best to ignore them.
We should expect all kinds of nasty crap between now and 2008. The thugs won't willingly give up power. Paid shills and deranged nutjobs will be the least of it.

[IChing]

33. These are not Dems publiclly fighting like this, they are Hillaryites

Could they not protest against at least two dozen just causes against this administration ? Of course.
These people are knowing tools for repuglicans

[partylessinOhio]

37. These aren't Dems.

Hillary has voted lockstep with Bush.

She was very shrill and haggard looking on LKL this week. I don't feel that Hillary can win. I don't know why she would want the job.

I wish Bill Clinton could run and he would win.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

73. on the other hand,

I would stand up and protest Joeberman and several other turncoats. They are either plants from a GOP salivating over the idea of Hillary running (and they hate the rising comments that most democrats don't care for her either) or these people are so stupid that they can do no long term harm or good. For anyone.

[never_get_over_it]

80. They're not Dems

they're IDIOTS this makes absolutely no sense - if Gore had stood his ground in 2002 - no snese what so ever - now maybe it was a typo and they felt he should have stood his ground in 2000 which a lot of people think - but tell me once it goes to the Supreme Court its over no ground to stand where was he going to go other than armed revolution

as for them being against the war and supporting Hillary - this makes less sense than the Gore should have held his ground in 2002 - Hillary voted for the Iraq War Resolution and has been very wishy washy about getting out and has even in the past used the freak in chief's exact words to defend staying in Iraq - remember when Cindy Sheehan met with Hillary - she told Cindy she didn't support withdrawing the troops because to do so would dishonor the soldier who had already died - directly from the GOP talking points

These people have hurt my head THEY MAKE NO SENSE

[Pirate Smile]

25. Huh????

:crazy:

[xchrom]

30. repukes trying to pass themselves off as smart people.

[Mabus]

32. Bob Kunst is behind it

He's been trying to draft Hillary since 2002. I remember his big rally (at most - four people with two signs) announcing their draft Hillary campaign in D.C. The press had a field day with it.

[shugh514]

41. He ran for governor

as an independent.

http://kunstforgov.com/

[Mabus]

44. I know about Kunst

My husband called him back in 2002 after seeing Kunst's movie about the 2000 election. Kunst made it clear at that time that he hated Gore and within the month he launched his draft campaign for Hillary. I blame my husband.

[proud2BlibKansan]

50. But I kinda like your husband

So lay off a him.

[Mabus]

51. LOL

I'll let him tell you the story about what happened between them the next time we're all together. It's pretty funny.

[Uncle Joe]

47. I thought Colonel Sanders had died? n/t

[PATRICK]

55. This is valuable information

Too often we are left guessing suspiciously and that leads to the Democratic intramural spin-offs that trash both Gore and Hillary- which is ironically what we are accusing these boobs of doing. So whether a transcendent nutcase or a GOP plant is up to God to judge at the moment. The results are identical, damaging all Dems, but most especially IF Hillary is dumb enough to have any affiliation with this counter productive anti-Gore zealot.

Then this has to be repudiated to our fair and balanced media that lets Fred Phelps conduct his weird GI funeral persecutions without any damage to the GOP.

[Mabus]

57. Phelps was a Dem

It's embarassing but Phelps was registered as a Dem back in the 80's. Phelp's began his funeral picketing in the 90's. One of his first funeral protests was at Al Gore Sr.'s funeral. He did it to "get back" at Al Gore Jr. because of Gore's support of gay rights.

[PATRICK]

58. Nuts are outside the

main monopoly of political hackdom then? The GOP has been making it so hard to tell that they get more credit than they deserve.

[Mabus]

60. Actually (added link)

I don't think Phelps would register as Democratic today. And the old Phelps/Gore photos were used by the Republicans and others against Gore in 2000. Every time they mentioned Phelps and Gore together they failed to mention the part about Phelps picketing at Gore Sr.'s funeral. Phelps was part of their propaganda against Gore in 2000.

edited to add link to wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_phelps#Political_affiliations about Phelps/Westboro picket Gore Sr.'s funeral.

[PATRICK]

62. That is back to my modest point

that the GOP make the nuts work for them regardless while the Dems slip on the banana, with the proper media accents placed.

[Mabus]

67. you are correct n/t

[JNelson6563]

34. Kinda like DU

In GD, anytime there is a thread about Gore there are always posters who have a different horse in the race who jump in to criticize and sometimes go so far as to spread right wing lies (i.e. Gore "lost" in 2000).

Gore has many very scared. I love it. So much for those who have clung to a sense of entitlement for their candidate.

:toast:

[me b zola]

38. Sounds like a dlc attack on the democratic wing of the Democratic Party

The dlc have their panties in a bunch because HRC gets heckled and called out where ever she goes for her pro-war policies.

Hey Hil, prove me wrong. Come out and denounce this stupidity.

[grahamhgreen]

45. Sounds like a counterintelligence unit infiltrated this group,

perhaps they even started the group. The Idea is, and I'm sure there are many lurking here, to split any coherent group of people and prevent them from showing a coherent sense of organization, or a single voice. Thus we get the rovian "Democrats have no plan".

[truthisfreedom]

48. repuke plants, obviously. sounds TOTALLY ROVIAN to me.

wouldn't put it past the porcine puppetmaster.

[EFerrari]

49. If Gore had stood his ground in 2002?

Lol!

Someone hasn't memorized their lines.

[Turn CO Blue]

53. Huh? Somebody please go & thump these morans on the head.

n/t

[spag68]

56. Al Gore protesters

If they actually listened to Al, we might get some new converts. Is anyone else thinking this is a rethug plot. None of it makes sense, but remember the rovian movers and shakers will do anything.

[Le Taz Hot]

63. And where exactly is

"Hil" baby on this? You'd think she'd be discouraging them. The DLC is TERRIFIED of Gore entering the race. Oh, and btw, the ONLY thing blocking Hillary's nomination in 2008 is THE VOTERS (you moron!)

[IChing]

65. And where exactly are the Hillary Supporters at DU on this?

crickets..........crickets........

come on .....let's hear you

[karynnj]

64. This is beyond stupid - could this be a RW group

It makes no sense for Hillary supporters to protest Gore (or Kerry, Edwards, Clark, Feingold etc). It could make sense for RW people - claiming to be Hillary people - to protest a Gore book signing.
Stevenson's comment makes no sense. Gore was a private citizen and spoke against the war. Bush sent us into war. (I guess she meant 2000 - when he failed to go to a higher court to appeal the Supreme Court. What a lunatic!)

[lumpy]

66. hillarynow.com

http://www.hillarynow.com/

this is bizzare

[RBInMaine]

68. Damn right it's BIZZARE! These people are FOOLISH!

What utter and complete nonsense! Real "bright" move! This is exactly what is wrong with too many on the left. People on the right line up for a firing squad in a straight line and then fire. Too many on the left insist on standing in a CIRCLE before firing. C'mon you FOOLS! Train your fire on the R's where the hell it belongs. This nonsense only gives me further reason to support the likes of Edwards, Warner, Richardson, Vilsack, Clark, Biden, etc. in '08. Believe me, these folks are doing Hillary's POSSIBLE '08 campaign much more harm than good. If their foolish fire BACKFIRES, then GOOD!!

[superconnected]

69. It's bad enough they want hillary to run for prez, but protest gore?

What are they hillarys republican base?

[Vidar]

70. This sounds more like Rove than Hillary.

[RCinBrooklyn]

71. Precisely why Hillary will NEVER win. These idiots look like zealots.

[Vincardog]

72. HillaryNow.com members sound like Republicant shills to me

[smoogatz]

83. Yep. It sounds completely bogus.

A few dumbass freepers trying to create the illusion of division within the party. Like they can't find plenty of ACTUAL division, without having to make shit up. Some people apparently don't have enough to do.

[Vincardog]

96. And the beat goes on. The corporate Controlled Media plays KKKarl's tune

[mom cat]

74. Hillary was a guest of the Bilderbergs at their most recent meetion in

Ottawa. They are already starting the negative message machine against any possible challenger to her.

[Canuckistanian]

76. How unbelievably stupid

Gore didn't start this war/occupation.

What a colossal waste of energy. While the country is being dismantled piece by piece, they're protesting an undeclared presidential candidate.

Why do Democrats shoot themselves in the head while they're being robbed?

[NastyDiaper]

77. "Gore is the only person who could block Clinton’s nomination"?

Ellie Stevenson of Hendersonville, a member of the group, said protesters will gather peacefully because they feel Gore is the only person who could block Clinton’s nomination in the 2008 election.

Is this even for real? I can't even make sense of it.

[NastyDiaper]

78. 'Hillary for president' rally draws 20 instead of hoped-for 200

Pathetic. I can't believe Hillary is officially associated.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060524/NEWS0206/605240377/1001%20

[Nothing Without Hope]

79. This makes no sense at all. I'm sure Hillary is ticked at the attention

Gore has earned with his work and movie on global warming, but if her campaign is supporting this it shows no savvy at all. Since she spends much effort calculating and triangulating political acts and choices, I doubt she's behind this ridiculous stunt. I do believe that the GOP wants Hillary as the Dem candidate, because they know they can easily defeat her.

So yes, Hillary's doubless jealous of attention given to Gore, but I doubt she's stupid enough to organize this little stunt. I mean, a BOOK-SIGNING??? Especially a book that espouses an important global cause. These people should get a life and reassess their goals. They are seriously off-track if they want to make things better.

[Jade Fox]

81. This is probably all proof needed......

that the only people who really want Hil to run in 2008 are Right-wingers.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

82. This Is One of the Dumbest Things I've Ever Heard of

:crazy:

DTH

[IndianaGreen]

86. I think this picture of Hillary and Bob Kunst is photoshopped

This doesn't even look right:


Bob Kunst speaks with Hillary Clinton in Washington D.C. 06/23/06 (photo by Evan Sisley)

http://www.hillarynow.com/

[IndianaGreen]

84. HillaryNow portrays John Kerry as one of the 3 Stooges

I think we are dealing with people that need to get laid and get all of their frustrations out!

http://www.hillarynow.com/2004election.htm

[KaptBunnyPants]

85. If Gore had stood his ground in 2002?

I agree with the others, I highly doubt this is an authentic group. No one who is that politically involved could say such an ignorant statement unknowingly. Gore, as a private citizen, consistently opposed the war from the beginning. Clinton, who was a senior member of the majority party of the Senate, supported, and infact still supports, the Iraq War. This Rovian use of language, projecting the sins of your candidate onto your opponent, are the trademark of the modern Republican Party.

[Cha]

87. And what IF hillary had

stood her ground in 2002?

[CantGetFooledAgain]

88. This is the stupidest thing I have seen all day.

And I have had an exceptionally stupid day.

[union_maid]

90. If this group is not Republican...

...then they're just crazy and more than a little stupid. Al Gore? 2002? WTF? I don't think that you can blame Hillary for this one. In fact, it's kind of interesting. Let's assume for a minute that the group is sincere. Hillary generates unreasoning and somewhat crazed hatred, right? I know that's my number one reason for not wanting her as the nominee. Maybe the inverse is true, too, and she attracts groups like this. Nutcases, somewhat like over zealous fans. It's got to be difficult to navigate waters like this if you're Hillary or any politician.

[snot]

91. This has GOT to be phony, We need to OUT these imposters. nt

[frylock]

92. lo-budget rnc psyops..

and pathetic at that.

[WhiteTara]

93. I bet these are swift boaters in hillary clothing

and by the way...Gore did stand his ground...it was knocked out from under him by SCOTUS. I hope Hillary comes out soon with a denial this is her organization.

[chat_noir]

94. LOL...only 2 showed up

The HillaryNow.com group planned a protest during the book signing. The online group supports the running of former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 presidential election and believes a Gore candidacy could get in the way.

"We don't want to be obtrusive; we just want to be a presence," she said of the protesters.

Even though a planned 30 protesters were supposed to appear, only two showed up because of schedule conflicts, she said.

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060624/NEWS01/606240339



Article title: Fans flock to Gore book signing

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1498690

[Blue_Tires]

97. strange indeed