MSNBC BREAKING: 7 Marines, 1 sailor to be charged in death of Iraqi...

[originalpckelly]

"The Marine Corps on Wednesday planned to charge seven Marines and one sailor with murder in connection with the April death of an Iraqi civilian, a defense official said.

At Camp Pendleton, Calif., where the eight accused service members are being held in a military brig, officials announced that a news conference would be held later Wednesday concerning the alleged killing of the Iraqi in the village of Hamdaniya. But the announcement did not mention murder or other charges. "
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13459928/

[sabra]

1. i'm switching to pears, too many bad apples

:sarcasm:

[ckramer]

2. The best way to avoid shows like these are withdraw from Iraq immediately!

Lose-lose situation here

[zanne]

3. Does this make Haditha go away?

Or will there be another "investigation"?

[Breeze54]

9. There already IS an investigation

and those soldiers are in solitary confinement. Locked up!

[rodeodance]

11. no, it is additive.

[bdamomma]

4. these soldiers need to come home now

this is insane, and shameful.

[saigon68]

6. Apparently these Thugs and Hoodlums will be going to jail soon

Cold Blooded Murder and a Cover-Up

Wow that was really some training they received.

Well at least Lynndie only used her Leash

[DoYouEverWonder]

5. Now when will they hold Bush & Rummie responsible

for putting these soldiers in this situation to begin with?

How many more lives are they going to ruin?

[Breeze54]

7. No shit!!!!

They b*$$Co should be tried for war crimes!!!

:grr:

[saigon68]

8. Never

Those thugs will get away with all of it.

[NYC]

10. That's very disheartening, but I believe you are entirely

correct.

[saigon68]

12. I wish I were Wrong

I can't see anything but a pass happening.

Like little asswipe Wolfowitz and Tommy "Shock and Awe" Franks--

The Fuckers will probably get another presidential medal of freedom

[coalition_unwilling]

14. Much as I sometimes share your pessimism, I'm not so sure

that they "will get away with all of it." I know for myself that my attitude has hardened considerably in the past 4.5 years. I now no longer think that impeachment is enough but now feel that only an international war crimes tribunal will suffice. Judging from your posts, I would say you feel the same. So, if I'm right, that's already two of us for a war crimes tribunal . . .

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

13. i'm so sad that a corpsman was involved in this

i'm sad that anyone was involved, but being a former corpsman, it's hard to understand he would be a

part of it. that's not what corpsmen are about.

[oneighty]

22. My thoughts exactly Corpsman.

A member of the bravest of the brave has shamed himself and his profession. Do no harm applies to Corpsmen too.

Very sad. And on future battlefields (and there will be) the red cross will be meaningless.

180

[Igel]

15. They're charged. There'll be a trial. n/t

[The_Casual_Observer]

16. Does this answer the question about how many marines does it take

to murder an Iraqi civilian?

[uppityperson]

17. Good. and a kick. nt

[LiberalHeart]

18. Murder Charges Against 7 Marines, Sailor in Killing of Iraqi Civilian

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Seven Marines and a sailor have been charged with murder in the April death of an Iraqi civilian, the Marine Corps said Wednesday. All eight also were charged with kidnapping, according to a Marine statement issued at Camp Pendleton, California. Other charges include conspiracy, larceny and providing false official statements.

Separately, the U.S. military in Iraq announced that murder charges were filed against a fourth Army soldier in the shooting deaths May 9 of three civilians who had been detained by U.S. troops. Spc. Juston R. Graber, 20, of the 101st Airborne Division was charged with one count of premeditated murder, one count of attempted premeditated murder, one count of conspiracy to commit murder, and making a false official statement.

http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=5061654

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[Carni]

20. OK I may get flamed but let me get this straight...

Before I open my big wazoo...let me first clarify by saying that I just watched the dreaded *Apocalypse Now* on Sunday (yeah yeah it's old and trippy but I finally understood it this time)

OK...SO we have soldiers over in Iraq that are fatigued, probably being fed God knows what kind of drugs by the bush regime and they are following the orders of *private contractors* who are basically paid thugs -- they are in many cases young, over tasked, over stressed suffering from PTSD -- non supported by the admin so gee....maybe they might be trigger happy? (and God only knows what's going on at home with their families)

I do not mean to endorse marines killing some 50 something year old man in cold blood for no reason if that is what happened -- but after all what were they sent to Iraq to do? Who's orders were they following? Aren't they SUPPOSED to kill? Hello? They are not there to sell Avon or tupperware...

Bushit started this so called war based on faked documents and lies--we have over 2500 US military dead and over 100,000 Iraqi civilians dead?

Is * paying for that lie? Is HE facing the death penalty over his lies and crap to invade in the first place and kill all these people?

No that stupid son of a bitch is enjoying a 1% bounce over showing his vile face in Iraq to gloat-- I don't get it?

If anyone should be on trial it's * but the freeper fucks say the *left* are the ones that dopn't support the troops...WTF do these fools want from these military people? They are after all human, unlike * Cheney and the arm chair warrior freepers.

[rodeodance]

21. AP 7 Marines, 1 sailor charged with murder

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060621/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/marines_iraq_shooting;_ylt=AkCWyL44jYOII.hyz7vqqmqs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

By THOMAS WATKINS, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 16 minutes ago

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. - Seven Marines and a Navy corpsman were charged Wednesday with premeditated murder in the shooting death of an Iraqi man and could face the death penalty if convicted.
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All eight also were charged with kidnapping. Other charges include conspiracy, larceny and providing false official statements.

Col. Stewart Navarre, chief of staff for Marine Corps Installations West, announced the charges at Camp Pendleton Marine Corps base, where the eight are being held in individual cells for 23 hours each day. The troops are members of the Pendleton-based 3rd Battallion, 5th Marines Regiment.

It's possible some or all could face the death penalty, though Navarre said "it's far too early to speculate on that right now."

Lt. Gen. John Sattler, the senior commander at Pendleton, will decide whether and how to proceed with preliminary hearings known in the military justice system as Article 32 proceedings. That in turn could lead to courts-martial for some or all of the men.

[Heidi]

23. .

:kick:

[norml]

24. Military Charges 8 With Murder of Iraqi

Military Charges 8 With Murder of Iraqi

By CAROLYN MARSHALL
Published: June 21, 2006

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif., June 21 — Seven marines and a Navy corpsman were charged today with murder, kidnapping and conspiracy in connection with the shooting death of an Iraqi civilian in April.

The men, all members of the Third Battalion of the Fifth Marine Regiment, have been confined to the brig here at Camp Pendleton since May, when a preliminary inquiry concluded that there was enough evidence to warrant a criminal investigation.

Officials here disclosed little information about the case itself. But earlier this month, Marine officials and members of Congress who had been briefed on the case said the eight men appeared to have dragged a 52-year-old Iraqi man from his house in the town of Hamdaniya, west of Baghdad, on April 26, and shot him without provocation.

They said the marines had then placed a shovel and bomb components near the man's body to make it seem that he had been digging a hole for a roadside explosive, and also placed an AK-47 near his body.

Col. Stewart Navarre, chief of staff, Marine Corps Installations West, announced the charges here this afternoon, saying that the "Marine Corps prides itself" in holding its members accountable for their actions. "The Marine Corps takes allegations of wrongdoing very seriously and is committed to investigating such allegations."


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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/21/world/middleeast/21cnd-abuse.html?ex=1151208000&en=c489aaa23a1606ed&ei=5087%0A

[geomon666]

25. Wow

"Marine Corps prides itself in holding its members accountable for their actions."

Now that's shocking.

[Monkeyman]

26. One Thing I want to Know

As a combat vet I want to know if these Marines were on the meds like Prozac an other that DOD is handing out like candy

[TomInTib]

27. That is a great point.

And I, as a fellow combat vet, do not have a big problem with any of this shit that has happened. It is, after all, 'war' as far as the guys in the field are concerned.

But the prescription drug issue deserves more light.

[yurbud]

28. none of these guys should serve a day until a cabinet member is indicted