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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 01:18 AM
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Mexico Hopeful Takes Hard Line Vs. NAFTA
Mexico Hopeful Takes Hard Line Vs. NAFTA

By MARK STEVENSON

TUXTLA GUTIERREZ, Mexico Jun 17, 2006 (AP)— Leftist presidential candidate
Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said for the first time Saturday he would not honor
Mexico's commitment under NAFTA to eliminate tariffs on U.S. corn and beans
if he is elected.

Tariffs on all agricultural products must be removed in 2008 under the North
American Free Trade Agreement. But Lopez Obrador said he opposed eliminating
tariffs on U.S. white corn and beans, showing no allegiance to a deal he sees
as harmful to Mexican farmers.

"We are not going to accept this clause that they signed," Lopez Obrador told
supporters in Chiapas, an extremely poor farming state.
<snip>
Mexican farmers say hefty agricultural subsidies in the United States give American
white corn and beans an unfair advantage over the Mexican market, which depends
in large part on small-scale and mostly subsistence farmers. As Mexico's staple crops,
corn and beans also carry immense symbolic importance.
<snip>

Full article: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2089345
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 01:25 AM
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1. That will definitely help cut down on illegals here in America.
Edited on Sun Jun-18-06 01:26 AM by w4rma
And everything he's doing will help the citizens of Mexico, alot.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 01:58 AM
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2. This is WONDERFUL news, if he can only win, now.
From the article:
Mexicans worry that if these farmers can't sell the nation's signature crops at a price that competes with trucked-in produce from the United States, they will go out of business altogether.

That could severely damage Mexico's agricultural economy, which farmers say has already suffered since the trade deal went into effect in 1994, forcing many to migrate to the United States.

Mexico's agriculture minister pleaded with Canada and the United States this month to reconsider the removal of the corn and bean tariffs, but U.S. Undersecretary for Agriculture J.B. Penn flatly rejected the appeal, saying "we have no interest in renegotiating any parts of the agreement."
(snip/...)
Now for something I have only seen once before: a candidate who will DECREASE HIS OWN SALARY! Only Evo Morales of Bolivia has been man enough to do this, so far. Our own scuzbuckets have found a way to continually increase their own salaries, passing out increases to themselves annually. Now THIS man intends to do good for OTHERS, the OTHERS being PEOPLE WHO, BY GOD, NEED HELP. What a shock!
Lopez Obrador, who lives modestly in a small Mexico City apartment, has said the handouts estimated to cost about $7 billion would be funded by cutting the salaries of Mexico's army of government workers, particularly of the top earners. He has also promised to draw half the salary of Fox, who received $238,000 last year.
(snip)
Thank you, Eugene, for some truly worthwhile food for thought.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 03:00 AM
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7. Buried in the "news" the other day: Congress just INCREASED its own
salaries by $3,300!!!!! At a cost of about $1.5 million, total. Think how many poor people's food, medical, education and gas bills that raise could cover, or how many hopes and dreams it could foster, with small business grants, scholarships or community projects.

Real pricks we have in the Diebold Congress.

I remember back in the so-called energy "crisis" when Enron was stealing $9 billion from California, and Dem Gov Davis was getting dissed by the war profiteering corporate news monopolies and Bushite fascists for being unable to control the budget, thinking that if everyone making fat salaries with full benefits in Calif's extensive government would take a 5% or 10% pay cut, starting with the governor, we might get somewhere with closing the Enron theft gap. And I thought: how great it would be if Dem politicians, out of sympathy for workers and the poor, would LOWER THEIR OWN SALARIES, even just a little bit. How heartening it would be! To know that somebody in power is not in it entirely for the money, and CARES and SYMPATHIZES with the all the people who have no power to raise their own salaries, and who nevertheless PAY TAXES--often with the poor paying at the highest rate--to bolster our politicians' lifestyles.

But no, it never occurred to Davis--and wouldn't occur to most other Dems.

Morales and Lopez Obrador have the right idea. When people are hurting, it is not okay to go on with business as usual. When people are hurting, the luxuries that public officials receive hurt them more--steal food from their tables, and clothes off their backs, and warmth from their homes.

It's so real, and so personal, to say: No, I will not accept this extra money, beyond my real needs, when those whom I serve have nothing.

And this means MORE than just the amount of money involved in cutting back public officials' salaries. The leaders WHO WOULD THINK THIS WAY would ALSO likely be the ones who would understand and sympathize with the plight of small farmers facing the giant U.S. agricultural industry. And the leaders who would never give a thought to their personal wealth and lifestyle, vis a vis their constituents, would be more likely to side with the rich and powerful, and be unable to see both the personal and social grief that big corporations inflict.

In my California dream, I went on the fantasize an army of young people, fresh out of college, and maybe old people, too, wanting a chance to contribute, willing to work in Calif's government for very modest, working class level salaries--replacing those with big salaries who are often doing the public disservice anyway--and re-energizing government of the people, by the people and for the people. Government professionals argue that they have to get salaries comparable to big corporations, in order to attract the best professionals to government. Not so! There are plenty of potentially highly motivated, brilliant people who would bring new ideas, great competence and a reformist attitude to government, who would work for less! And I think they would do so with fabulous enthusiasm, on a reformist program.

But I was dreaming. A dream of good government, of real government, of OUR government! It may come to that anyway--after this fascist coup has busted our country: that we all have to pitch in, and that ever increasing government salaries and associated corruption will simply be impossible. We will be bankrupt and sorely pressed to keep our roads in repair and bottom-line services. This is very nearly the case already, in many places. For Congress to RAISE its own salaries in these circumstances is mind-bogglingly corrupt. Just think of the inspiration they could have given by lowering them!

Kudos to Morales and Lopez Obrador! True men of the people!

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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 02:05 AM
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3. He's showing promise--if only he can win.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 05:07 AM
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8. What's he polling at?
Do you know?
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 07:59 AM
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10. He's tied in first place...
Although most recent polls show him with a slight lead, just 2 weeks ago Calderón (the candidate of Fox's party, PAN) was ahead by a point or two. It will be a nail biter until the end...
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 02:20 AM
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4. He needs to stay out of small planes
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 02:36 AM
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5. LA Times: Why U.S. Has Stake in Mexican Election
Why U.S. Has Stake in Mexican Election
The outcome could alter relations between the North American neighbors. And a disputed vote could lead to political chaos.
By Héctor Tobar and Paul Richter, Times Staff Writers
June 18, 2006


MEXICO CITY — When an estimated 40 million Mexican voters go to the polls next month to pick their next president, the result could affect the lives of 296 million people north of the border.

A victory by leftist candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador on July 2 would add an emphatic exclamation point to a series of Latin American elections that has seen voters roundly reject the "Washington consensus," the model that emphasizes fiscal discipline and pro-market policies.

A victory by conservative candidate Felipe Calderon might make Mexico a stronger U.S. ally than ever before.
(snip)

Lopez Obrador took a different tack. He suggested that keeping a strong economy at home was the best way to reduce immigration.
(snip)

"The next president of Mexico is not going to be a puppet of any foreign government," Lopez Obrador said. "We will have a relationship of mutual respect with the North American government."
(snip)

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mexus18jun18,1,238379.story?coll=la-headlines-world&track=crosspromo

Leaning left

Should Mexicans elect Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador president next month, it would be a continuation of a string of recent Latin American elections in which leftist candidates have won office:

Year Country Elected
2006 Chile Michelle Bachelet
2005 Bolivia Evo Morales
2004 Uruguay Tabare Vazquez
2003 Argentina Nestor Kirchner
2002 Brazil Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva
2000 Venezuela Hugo Chavez
2000 Chile Ricardo Lagos

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Peace Patriot reminds us there's also an election coming up in Nicaragua next November.


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Steepler0t Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 02:53 AM
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6. Where the left here in america is missing the point
Edited on Sun Jun-18-06 02:58 AM by Steepler0t
The floodgates of migrants because of NAFTA is the key to the immigration issue nowdays, but yet so many do not speak of it and the corporate news is silent, (hmm, wonder why) much easier to blame the victim (displaced migrants) as usual.


http://www.startribune.com/146/story/415679.html

And some info there about how europeans handle free trade (letting labor migrate)

Corporate america cannot have it both ways, either kill NAFTA or the border.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 06:36 AM
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9. Europeans set up funds to help farmers displaced by trade in the EU
They knew before the EU trade pact was signed that there would be dislocations so they prepared for it. They funded local economic development.

Funds were asked for in the NAFTA debate, but the "fast track" process just steam-rollered the idea and it never happened. Now we have displaced Mexicans with no where to go. Wall Street imperialism at work again.
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Steepler0t Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 08:39 AM
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11. It is a raw deal for everyone in the end.
When I hear folks bashing them and using the same tired line that everyone just wants to come here and leave their homes for no reason and ot suck off the government teat it just seems silly, how can folks not look into why these things happen instead of endlessly blaming the ones uprooted.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:14 AM
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12. I did not "get it" about the dislocations until an activist told me
...about two weeks ago, then I heard Rep Marcy Kaptur say it in a floor speech (or special order speech) I saw on Cspan a week ago. That was my moment of enlightenment. Trade is a complicated issue. I am reading Sherrod Brown's book "Myths of Free Trade" (2004) now. The chapter on China is alarming.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:12 PM
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13. Kill NAFTA, definitely n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:30 AM
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14. Glad you mentioned this point. I just stumbled across this related
information a few moments ago:
The $180 billion agriculture bill passed during this administration, with most payments going to huge companies like ADM, underscores the point. Even the right-wing Heritage Foundation says: "America’s largest and most wasteful corporate welfare program is farm subsidies."

These subsidies have put more than a million corn farmers out of business in Mexico, shut down hundreds of cotton plantations in Africa and wrecked agriculture in many third world countries while keeping prices higher in America. That is not "free" trade.
(snip/...)
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/11/15/153146.php

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I've read there are other crops involved in this exploitation of Mexican farmers as well: sugar cane, and cotton. They have been devastated when U.S. taxpayer-subsidized agricultural products have flooded their country at prices the small Mexican farms can't begin to match. Family businesses going back generations, as well as all the people connected with the farms have been swept away.

It has never appeared important enough for the U.S. media to address, apparently, as in the official attitude seems to be: "Screw'em." What a damned shame no one considers the Mexican workers important enough to acknowledge, nor the American public important enough to inform.

Welcome to D.U., Steepler0t!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:34 AM
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15. Mexico's media put it in neutral
Mexico's media put it in neutral
As campaign coverage gets more independent than in the past, the candidates take to U.S.-style attack ads.
By Reed Johnson, Times Staff Writer
June 20, 2006

~snip~
Attack ads aplenty have flavored the campaigns of Felipe Calderón, the PAN candidate, and PRD candidate Andres Manuel López Obrador, the left-leaning former Mexico City mayor known by his initials, "AMLO." The two candidates have been running a close race in opinion polls, and with the election rapidly approaching, López Obrador took the lead this week for the first time in months after hitting the airwaves with a barrage of ads suggesting that Calderón's relatives got rich thanks to Calderón's position in government.

The ads single out his brother-in-law who, they say, landed more than a dozen government contracts while Calderón was in office and paid no taxes on millions of dollars in profits. These charges, denied by Calderón, were first raised in a national debate and have since been hammered home in the ad campaign.

Calderón's "anti-AMLO" ads, for their part, have described the former mayor as "a danger to Mexico" who is making empty promises to the poor about creating social programs that he won't be able to pay for. Some ads have attempted to associate López Obrador with Venezuela's populist president, Hugo Chávez.

Early in the campaign, López Obrador appeared to be caught off guard by Calderón's attack ads, but after watching his front-runner status temporarily slip away this spring after he declined to participate in the first of two presidential debates, he countered with aggressive ads of his own, along with pointed criticism aimed at Calderón and President Vicente Fox.
(snip/...)

http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-et-mexmedia20jun20,0,3840499.story?coll=la-home-style
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:42 AM
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16. How to counter the free traders--see these articles
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 06:45 AM
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17. GOOD.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 07:36 AM
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18. Kick!!!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 09:00 AM
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19. Now if he kicked WalMart out of MX, he would be KING at DU n/t
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