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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 02:54 AM
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Va. Republican George Allen facing tough fight for his Senate seat
Posted on Fri, Jun. 16, 2006
Va. Republican George Allen facing tough fight for his Senate seat
By Steven Thomma
Knight Ridder Newspapers

ARLINGTON, Va. - Sen. George Allen of Virginia might be getting a little ahead of himself.

He traveled to Iowa this weekend to headline a state Republican event, part of his early jockeying for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination. But before he can set his sights on the White House, he must hold onto his seat in the Senate.

At this early stage, Allen is favored to win a second term. But analysts say the state has moved away from Allen toward the political center. And Democrats think they've found the right candidate to take on Allen.

This week they nominated Republican-turned-Democrat James Webb, a secretary of the Navy under Ronald Reagan, a man who loathed Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, questions affirmative action and supports gun rights, and endorsed both George W. Bush and Allen in 2000.
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http://www.belleville.com/mld/belleville/news/nation/14836742.htm
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 03:00 AM
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1. think/believe. Why did the editor choose "think" instead of "believe"?(nt)
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 03:01 AM by w4rma
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:13 AM
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2. nice to see this.
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 06:41 AM
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3. Allen - Santorum - defeated! Hummm. That would be sweet!
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Secret Agent Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 06:53 AM
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4. If you like Joe Lieberman, you're gonna love James Webb.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:37 AM
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5. Webb May Not Be Perfect, BUT
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 07:54 AM by VogonGlory
James Webb may not be the ideal progressive candidate, but replacing a lockstep right-wing Republican with someone who will walk with progressives at least once in a while is an improvement over the status quo.

Besides, if Webb wins his race, as far as the hard-right GOPsters will be concerned, once he's tainted with "Democrat," they'll NEVER accept him back in to the inner circle of the GOP. Just think of the fates of those selfless Republicans (Excluding that toe-sucking speech writer) who put their partisanship aside to serve in the Clinton administration.
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queenbdem87 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:42 AM
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8. No....he IS an ideal progressive candidate
That article is a bunch of BS. Webb has progressive positions on every issue. He wants to repeal the tax cuts, get out of Iraq, he for gay rights, he is economically progressivel, and against outsourcing. come on guys....think!
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:53 AM
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14. Thank You for the Correction
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 02:50 PM
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24. tell the truth-limited gay rights
better than nothing , but let's not get too enthusiastic. Progressive? in a limited sense(as compared to Allen)
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:31 PM
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25. You are correct
I attended one of his debates against Miller. Also, Webb has been against the war in Iraq from day one.

Unlike Allen, Webb is bright, articulate, a decorated military man, and a person who worked his way up without having the advantage of a famous father as Allen and Bush have. If Allen's dad had not been the famous coach of the Washington Redskins, Allen would be wiping tables in a beer joint today. He's not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree and was a mediocre governor at best.
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Secret Agent Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:52 AM
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13. I agree.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:40 AM
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17. Now let's go easy on toe-suckers. Democrats have a big tent. all welcome.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 01:27 PM
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21. Only On The Toe-Suckers That Don't Publish Hatchet Jobs Afterwards
I'm willing to go easy only on those toe-suckers who don't go off and publish hatchet jobs on their former bosses with Regnery and other right-wing publishing outfits. :mad:

Since I doubt that you'd do such a dastardly thing, you're quite safe.

:party:
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 08:08 AM
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27. Ah, a meeting of the minds. We each have had our honor upheld.Thank you.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:42 AM
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7. A lot of people in VA think Lieberman is too progressive
hence, they elected George Allen. You think they are going to go from someone like Allen to someone like Boxer or Feingold?
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queenbdem87 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:43 AM
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9. I don't and I don't know any ppl in VA that do
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Secret Agent Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:49 AM
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11. Actually, I was being facetious. I wish the best for Webb (and Lieberman).
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queenbdem87 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:44 AM
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10. Bullshit
Webb is AGAINST the war in Iraq and always has been! He is much more progressive than Lieberman.
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Secret Agent Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:50 AM
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12. Easy now, I am not opposed to Webb, I am in favor of a "big tent".
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queenbdem87 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:40 AM
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6. Webb does not question affirmative action....
Just because he didn't say it should specifically go to African American's alone. That bullshit was Miller propaganda!
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rogue emissary Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:59 AM
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19. From Webb's WSJ article in 05/22/00
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 09:59 AM by rogue emissary
" Affirmative action, which originally sought to repair the state-induced damage to blacks from slavery and its aftermath, has within one generation brought about a permeating state-sponsored racism that is as odious as the Jim Crow laws it sought to countermand." - Webb

Miller didn't make him write that paragraph. Quite a few DU'er found stuff like this on his writing's site way before Miller brought it up.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:23 AM
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15. Will Webb be willing to stoop to the repuke's level
in order to win this thing? When the mud starts flying, is he going to try and stay above the fray? Is that a winning strategy? I ask because when The New Republic piece came out last month exposing Allen for the racist asshole he's been for decades, Webb's official comment was that the article hit "below the belt."

The repukes want to keep this seat badly. They will pull out all the stops with money and organization. Unless Webb is prepared to fight fire with fire - and that includes going after Allen on the character issue and making him own up to and own his past - he won't win.

I'm quite confident the repukes are already busily conducting "opposition research" on Webb. Allen is a big, ripe target with lots of no-longer-secret skeletons rattling around in his closet. If Webb doesn't rip the white sheets off the guy, it will be a hell of a missed opportunity.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:34 AM
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16.  a man who loathed Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton
Yes this is the guy we need....Filled with hatred for truly good people...:shrug:
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queenbdem87 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:48 AM
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18. He is not a republican anymore
it doesnt matter what he said or endorsed before when he WAS a republican. He came around and had an epiphany, saw what was wrong with the rethugs, and came to the democrats. He said the republican party was all wrong and thats why he decided to switch.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 01:45 PM
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23. If you like George W. Bush, you will love George Allen
Riding the coattails of his famous father, wealthy and privileged, dumb as a brick, plays himself as a "compassionate conservative," but really extreme right wing - why hasn't Karl Rove latched on to this guy for 2008?

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 08:45 AM
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28. He was never a "Republican"....
From his website: http://www.webbforsenate.com/

His first appeal was to people like himself. "It's time to welcome home those Democrats who left for a time, the Reagan Democrats, the conservative Democrats, whatever labels we give them," Webb said. "It's time to welcome them home."



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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:03 AM
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20. Sounds like a bright bulb. If they elected Allan though, maybe that's
the best they can hope for right now. Perhaps he has learned how to think outside the box a little bit? Neither Clinton nor Carter were angels, but 'loathing them' simply implies GOP mindless reaction, since they were far superior to the criminals Reagan and Bush's I/II.
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 06:54 AM
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26. Webb sounds like another
Lieberman type troll. Republican 'Lite' at the very best. Is this better than a rabid repuke that you at least know is a repuke? Damned if I know.
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