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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:56 AM
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Canada slams "ignorant" U.S. comments on security
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N09185020.htm

By David Ljunggren

OTTAWA, June 9 (Reuters) - Canada's government and main opposition party united on Friday to condemn "completely uninformed and ignorant remarks" by a U.S. member of Congress who said Canada was a breeding ground for terrorists.

Last week police in and around Toronto arrested 17 Muslim men, five of whom are under the age of 18. Several of them are charged with plotting bombings in major Canadian cities and training militants.

John Hostettler, chairman of the House of Representatives subcommittee on immigration and border security, said on Thursday that Canada "hosts an abundance of terrorists and as many as 50 terrorist organizations".

Bill Graham, head of Canada's main opposition Liberal party, asked in Parliament what the government was doing to "stand up to these unjustified and abusive attacks on Canada, making sure that the American media and the politicians understand and speak the truth?"
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stuckinlucky Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:13 AM
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1. Message to Bill Graham.
"(Make) sure that the American media and the politicians understand and speak the truth?"

No offense, Bill, but, if we can't do it, I don't give the Canadian Parliament much of a chance.

SiL
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:32 PM
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18. the 'Merican Media ain't listening to NO foreigners
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:15 AM
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2. At least Canada is doing something while at the same time at............
....least trying to preserve citizen rights. Instead of criticizing the Canadians we should be up there taking lessons. :banghead:
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:18 AM
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3. Don't leave out that th pukes have been patting themselves on the back
for arresting those 17 terrorists. Yet it seems GW and his spying in america so far has turned up Zero terrorists. BTW, canada never spied on their citizens to get the terrorists, they did it by good old fashioned police work and by abiding to canadain laws.
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:21 AM
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4. The mounties always get their man
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MarkyX Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:08 PM
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19. American Ignorance
No offence but..

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/toronto-bomb-plot/timeline-investigation.html

In 2004, when Paul Martin reigned, they were tracking these guys in an internet chatroom.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:32 AM
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5. Here's the part I like:
Hostettler also lashed out at "South Toronto", which he said was "the type of enclave that allows for this radical type of discussion to go on".


So that would be? Rochester? Lake Ontario? Centre Island Petting Zoo?

There is no "South Toronto". There's central, east, west, north and water.

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 03:04 PM
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12. But "South Toronto" sounds like "southside of Chicago" or "south Philly"
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 03:07 PM by daleo
In other words, he is using language that evokes images of ghettos in the minds of fellow Americans.

On edit - Apologies if I got the particular city geographies wrong.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:50 PM
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14. Do you mean
like Mill Woods?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:54 AM
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17. Yeah, Mill Woods gets that treatment too.
Although the reference would be far too obscure for a U.S. politician seeking a little sensationalism.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 11:09 PM
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16. Perhaps he was referring to Bay Street, South of Bloor.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:38 AM
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6. Maybe this will teach Harper and the phony conservatives that
kissing up to bush and the repubs gets you squat, indeed, it just opens the doors for more lies ....oh, never mind, Harper won't learn from this, he will just bend over a little more.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:40 AM
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7. How dare they speak of Commander Stupid as "ignorant"


Don't the Canadians know that our preppy appointeeis a former cheerleader?

Those Canunks have no respect for general brilliatudedness.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:20 AM
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8. Hostettler could be suspected himself according to this CNN report:
I heard someone on one of our Canadian TV networks talking about Hostettler being in trouble over a gun. Here it is: /LOL
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/20/congressman.gun/

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 04:11 PM
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13. Suspected? He's a convicted criminal.
Morning Report 6/21/05
America's Mullahs and Their Moolah
They talk a lot about Jesus, but they're reading from the gospel of loot

.. The congressman, who said he had forgotten he had placed the gun in the briefcase, pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor and received a suspended sentence ..

http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/001005.php
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 11:24 AM
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9. But it is a breeding ground for "terrorism"...
Which in neocon-speak means "liberty and self determination".
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 12:36 PM
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10. Absolutely right! And the mounties are more effective than all
of our high-tech homeland security agencies put togeter. "Je me souviens"
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 12:44 PM
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11. O-ho!
The Right Honourable Stephen Wedged Up The GOP's Ass Harper condoned a comment in which a senior American legislator was called ignorant? I'm almost impressed.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:44 PM
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15. This is laughable


At least the Canucks caught the terrorists before they could do any harm, which is a lot more than I can say for the chimp who just sat there twiddling his thumbs and didnt do a damn thing to prevent the 9/11 attacks.
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:50 PM
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20. Lets see
US didn't catch the terrorists on time...boom.
Spain didn't catch the terrorists on time...boom.
London didn't catch the terrorists on time...boom.

Canada catches them. No one is hurt...OH MY GAWD, we're
making everyone else LOOK BAD!!! that must be it :sarcasm:


You know, I heard this comment when it was being made, and I
was outraged..yes I yelled at the TV.

Is the US trying to build up a reason to "set us free"? :grr:
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