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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 05:52 AM
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Iraqi Insurgents Vow to Continue Fighting
Iraqi Insurgents Vow to Continue Fighting


Saturday June 10, 2006 11:01 AM

By MAGGIE MICHAEL

Associated Press Writer

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Iraqi insurgent groups closed ranks in response to the death
of al-Qaida leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, sending condolences in Web messages
Saturday and warning Sunnis not to cooperate with the Iraqi government.

One group, Ansar al-Sunna, posted a video showing militants interrogating and then
beheading three Iraqis accused of belonging to a Shiite "death squad" that killed
Sunnis.

An early signature of the insurgency, videos of beheadings have become rare in the
past year. The posting of one now on a militant Web forum suggests an attempt
to show that al-Zarqawi's death has not weakened their resolve.

The condolence statements came from Ansar al-Sunna and the head of the Mujahedeen
Shura Council, an umbrella organization of five insurgent groups - including al-Qaida
in Iraq - that al-Zarqawi helped found last last year.
<snip>

Full article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5877101,00.html
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 05:54 AM
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1. turning the corner, eh, chimpy?
If you'd bothered to crack a history book in college, you'd know that, historically speaking, that is not the case.

But I guess you'd have to learn how to read, in order to be able to do that. :grr:

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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 05:57 AM
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2. gee, I NEVER could have predicted that
:sarcasm: :nuke: :argh:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:02 AM
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3. Did anyone really think.......
that the death of the mythical Zarqawi would make one iota of difference in the "insurgents" fight? Of course, there ARE the Bush supporters. They'll believe anything they're told to believe so, yeah, I guess there are some who think the war will just peter out now that Zarqawi is gone. What a fool believes....... :eyes:
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:38 AM
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7. Right on. hard to really think they think that way.
We have had a history of these type people. Why would it stop now? It may go up and down but these people seem to have always been with us. I can not help but think people just have never opened a history book at all.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:32 PM
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17. Well, they may have a few (7?) less fighters. So to the
extend that 7 out of thousands weakens them then I guess it does make one iota (wish I knew what an idota was) of difference. But then next person killed on any one of several "sides" probably won't really care.
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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:25 AM
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4. Most of the Iraqi insurgents hated Zarqawi
So the reality is that a lot of them are glad that he is out of the way. Regardless of the media spin and the lies the bushies say, Zarqawi wasn't the driving force behind the majority of the insurgents. Zarqawi wasn't one of them, he was a foreigner and they are glad he is out of the way.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:29 AM
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5. I guess they will have to change those "A NEW DAY IN IRAQ" blurbs
on Dead Zarqawi Day to "Another Day In Iraq Just Like The Others". :eyes:
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ktlyon Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:23 AM
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6. That is right
This guy was not important enough to have thousands take his place. He will be replaced and it will go on as before.
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:42 AM
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8. Zarqawi--just the poster child behind the whole mess
They'll be hanging a new one soon enough to take his place.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 03:42 PM
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9. Kicked and Recommended
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urbuddha Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 03:51 PM
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12. The fighting won't stop because...
:hide:
These people are fighting for their beliefs and the U.S. government can't change that and therefore the fighting will continue.
We must remove these morons running the current regime.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 03:44 PM
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10. Wait till they do this to a U.S. citizen here in the U.S.
That will take it around a corner. :scared:
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zmallgovernment Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 03:48 PM
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11. 21 civilians killed today
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NorthernSun Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 03:58 PM
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13. Website name?
I wonder what the URL is for all these videos. The last time I checked the one they were using was registered in Maryland. The news stories never provide any proof of where these are comming from.

WHOIS ALNEDA.COM

Registration Service Provided By: DIRECTI
Contact: +91.2256797500
Website: http://www.directi.com
Domain Name: ALNEDA.COM

Registrant:
SFP, Inc
Jon David (jondavid@4jon.com)
Po 312
Berlin
Maryland,21811
US
Tel. +011.4107237089

Creation Date: 16-Jul-2002
Expiration Date: 16-Jul-2013
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 04:03 PM
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14. Iraq Insurgents Post New Beheading Video
Zarqawi may be dead, but...

By HAMZA HENDAWI Associated Press Writer
© 2006 The Associated Press

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Insurgents signaled the fight is still on after Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's death, posting an Internet video Saturday showing the beheading of three alleged Shiite death squad members in revenge for killing Sunnis.

The video _ as grisly as any the al-Qaida in Iraq leader issued _ was clearly designed to quash hopes that the Sunni-dominated insurgency might change tactics by ending attacks on Shiite civilians and institutions, especially the police.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/3958183.html
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dmoded Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 04:13 PM
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15. is their land unlawfully/unethically being occupid atm??
makes me wonder. if i was living my life as is, normally, elecricity intact, no shortage of water, no dead relatives, hmm getting used to the sound of bombs dropping daily, soldiers dressed like robocop going door to door grabbing my neighbors, innocents upon innocents being killed with no stable future insight at all, i wonder would i lay back, or would i take up arms?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Their rule #1: get the fuck out of our land. it's clearly obvious the usa/uk led invasion will not stay there. they are doing their best right now to all of a sudden (the easy way out) to hand everything over to the iraqi secrity forces, .. didn't iraq once have an army that was capable?

believe me we didn't see a war, an invasion yes but they saw bush coming a mile away, the real army imo fled to neighboring syria/iran. sure there are quite a few roadbombs causing quite a bit of chaos maybe perhaps signalling a message saying 'there will be no calm here'

again, in short:

<bush> he's got wmd's, almost like ours, go get em!
<imminent threat> go get em troops!

both turned out false, its obvious thats why im screaming for impeachment but i don't see why that hasnt happened yet.

then on the other hand, with those two allegations being totally false and their pretext for war being totally shut down, makes you wonder why saddam is on trial for gassing some kurds who tried to take his life in 1982.

bush was in grade 2 then, and literally still is. if he wants to eat pretzels he needs to wear a helmet by law.

nothing in this 'war' adds up, i'm simply afraid of when pt2 to this begins- wont be pretty at all.
a child in grade 2 can tell you when a country and in this case: region is attacked, there will be retaliation.

Instead of monkeyboy focusing on bin laden, he created 10000 bin ladens occupying innocent iraq. sure, may have sounded like a good idea for the boys at haliburon and the money making war machine but i bet you somewhere, there is a muslim man/woman/child who has seen enough bloodshed on their frontporch to perhaps think about retaliation?

the utter silence following 9/11 has been ominous. not one suicide bomber, not one gunshot. doesn't that strike anybody as odd? for some reason, america is in their comfort zone because "oh how dare the terrorists strike us, we kill them but what can they do"

unfortunately, i think something big about to go down, war is two sided. simple as that. bush didn't have justification, but the area he is attacking has plenty.

ive said it before, in order to combat terrorism: mind your own fucking business, don't get involved in other countries matters, take care of yourself.

our admin has done the opposite. and hmm, i bet north korea and iran being labelled evil didn't take kindly, coming from the ultimate bonehead dictator who can't even look after his own people.

-sorry for the rant, i can go on but im done. the facts are too plain and obvious for me to continue.

peace.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 05:43 PM
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16. Candidate for this month's "You Call This NEWS?" award
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 05:47 PM by rocknation
Zarqawi had nothing to do with the insurgency, and he'd fallen out of favor with Al-Qadea, too--indeed, there's plenty of reason to believe thta it was Al-Qaeda had turned him in!

:headbang:
rocknation
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:32 AM
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18. AP Iraq insurgents post new beheading video


Iraq insurgents post new beheading video

By HAMZA HENDAWI, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 9 minutes ago

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Insurgents signaled the fight is still on after Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's death, posting an Internet video Saturday showing the beheading of three alleged Shiite death squad members in revenge for killing Sunnis.
ADVERTISEMENT

The video — as grisly as any the al-Qaida in
Iraq leader issued — was clearly designed to quash hopes that the Sunni-dominated insurgency might change tactics by ending attacks on Shiite civilians and institutions, especially the police.

Fellow Sunni insurgent groups sent condolences for al-Zarqawi in Internet messages Saturday and warned Sunnis not to cooperate with the Iraqi government, an apparent call for unity three days after U.S. forces killed the terror leader in a targeted airstrike.

The condolence statements came from the al-Qaida-linked Ansar al-Sunnah — the group that posted the beheading video on a militant Web site — and the head of the Mujahedeen Shura Council, an umbrella organization of five insurgent groups, including al-Qaida in Iraq, that al-Zarqawi helped found last year........

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:32 AM
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19. Thanks, McCain.
I hear McCain told them that this is what they needed to do. Guess he'd know?
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 12:32 AM
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20. Re: "death squad members"
...oh well shit happens *shrug*
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 01:28 AM
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21. --- yikes
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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:33 AM
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22. Al Qaeda in Iraq vows to 'shake the enemy' -> Not shaking
(CNN) -- In a statement posted on an Islamist Web site on Sunday, al Qaeda in Iraq threatened "large-scale operations that will shake the enemy and rob them of sleep."

"The mujahedeen Shura Council and al Qaeda in Mesopotamia held a meeting right after the killing of the commander-in-chief Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, may God bless his soul," the statement said.

In that meeting, leaders decided to continue their jihad, they said.

They also said that al-Zarqawi's death should not affect their operations.

Al-Zarqawi was killed in a U.S. airstrike Wednesday. (Full story)

In addition, the group said it renewed its allegiance to al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, "may God protect him, and he will be pleased with the actions of his soldiers in Iraq, God willing."

The statement did not name a successor to al-Zarqawi.

CNN cannot independently verify the authenticity of the statement, but it was posted on a Web site which previously has carried messages from the group.


http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/11/al.qaeda.threat/index.html

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An article that does not refer to the website, the writer of the article is not named... Sounds like a propaganda piece from our own Govt.

Dap
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:33 AM
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23. Not necessarily
Statements on identified al-Qaeda web sites pretty much said the same thing the day after Zarqawi's death.

This is SOP in any organization.

For example, look to what a losing team says the day after when talking about the next game. They talk about bouncing back, not of continuing defeats.
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