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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 06:08 AM
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Solana offers nuclear incentives to Iran
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,251-2212782,00.html

Solana offers nuclear incentives to Iran
By Philippe Naughton and agencies in Tehran




http://images.thetimes.co.uk/TGD/picture/0,,288076,00.jpg
Javier Solana, the European Union's most senior diplomat, has formally offered Iran a list of incentives that the major powers hope will be enough to persuade it to stop enriching uranium.



The deal was presented today in a two-hour meeting with Ali Larjani, Iran's chief nuclear negotiator, at the Supreme National Security Council headquarters in central Tehran. An official close to the talks said afterwards: "Larijani said Iran will study the package, clause by clause, and respond."

Mr Solana arrived in Tehran last night last night as the messenger to convey a deal agreed in talks among the five permanent members of the UN Security Council, plus Germany, in Vienna last Friday. The former Nato chief told reporters at Tehran airport that the West wanted "a new relationship" with Iran and that the package would "allow us to engage in negotiations based on trust, respect and confidence".

Details of the proposals, drawn up by Britain, France and Germany and backed by the United States, Russia and China, have been kept secret, but an early draft suggests that if Iran agrees to stop enriching uranium, the major powers would offer it help in building nuclear reactors and guarantee a supply of nuclear fuel.


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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 06:16 AM
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1. It will be interesting to see Iran reply to this
If the "nuclear reactors and guarantee a supply of nuclear fuel" is real, then IMHO this is a good deal for them. But if I know *, he has a couple deal killer pre-conditions in the deal other than for them just to stop enriching uranium.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 06:40 AM
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2. I rather doubt that 'it is a good deal for them'.
It would be an embarassing concession of sovereignty. I don't see the Iranian governmnet bowing down to the europeans any time soon.

By the way Iran is entitled to develop nuclear facilities it is developing under the terms of the NPT. There is currently no evidence that Iran is in violation of the NPT. The USA on the other hand is in clear violation of the NPT. Perhaps we should be the ones making concessions?
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TAPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 07:08 AM
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3. In response to your BTW,
absolutely, and it seems that everyone forgets that! I'm flabbergasted...
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:14 AM
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4. US offering Iran Nukes...
Does this mean, we will both live happily ever after...?

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/06/D8I2P6F00.html
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:14 AM
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5. kick......nt
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:14 AM
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6. cspan blotter just showed Iran 'happy'
It read: Iran says incentives to stop uranium enrichment "positive steps".

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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:14 AM
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7. That would be a very positive development overall...
Great to see...
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:14 AM
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8. All I can say is
:wtf:
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:14 AM
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9. Very clever. Then the US can remotely detonate them.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:14 AM
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10. lol...only on DU!!!
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PinkUnicorn Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:14 AM
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11. Unlikely
The Iranian aren't completely stupid and they would go over the materials with a fine tooth comb for any sort of sabotage. What I suspect would happen if the promises are be signed, but then the suppliers would start delivering wrong parts, have 'unexpected delays', deliver obsolete pieces, and pull the same stunts as happened with the North Korea reactor.

The other catch is that if the Iranians 'outsource' their technology they become all the more vulnerable to sanctions, as that would cut off any materials.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:14 AM
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12. Haven't Cheney and Khan already been selling Iran this stuff? nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:18 AM
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14. oops there it is!
:thumbsup: :hi:

Dick Cheney exposed Valerie Plame to cover up his association with A.Q. Khan's Nuclear Walmart. Read about it here: http://s93118771.onlinehome.us/DU/AMERICANJUDAS.pdf

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dufrenne Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:14 AM
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13. RTFA
the article doesn't say nukes...what the hell would the point of that be? It means energy technology
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 12:43 PM
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15. Iran Receives Anti-Nuclear Incentives
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2044251&page=1

TEHRAN, Iran Jun 6, 2006 (AP)— A package of incentives that represents a major initiative by world powers to persuade Iran to curb its nuclear program contains "positive steps" but also some "ambiguities," the country's top nuclear negotiator said Tuesday.

Speaking on state television after receiving the proposals from EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana, Ali Larijani called the talks with Solana "constructive" and said Iran would respond after studying the incentives.

The United States along with the four other veto-wielding members of the U.N. Security Council Britain, France, Russia and China drew up the package with Germany in a meeting in Vienna on Friday.

He did not identify the "ambiguities," but he said he had discussed them with Solana and that more talks would be required.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 12:43 PM
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16. US to give Iran nuclear technology
Edited on Tue Jun-06-06 10:57 AM by SunDrop23
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 12:43 PM
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18. OMG that is too much.
VIENNA, Austria - A package of incentives presented Tuesday to Iran includes a provision for the United States to supply Tehran with some nuclear technology if it stops enriching uranium — a major concession by Washington, diplomats said.

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 12:43 PM
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19. Next we will propose bombing our own cities.
I know this is about energy, but it is really quite comical how we started throwing concessions at Iran once it became apparent they weren't falling for our bluster.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 12:43 PM
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20. What's good for M & M Enterprises will be good for the country.
:rofl:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065528/quotes


1st Lt. Milo Minderbinder: Nately died a wealthy man, Yossarian. He had over sixty shares in the syndicate.
Yossarian: What difference does that make? He's dead.
1st Lt. Milo Minderbinder: Then his family will get it.
Yossarian: He didn't have time to have a family.
1st Lt. Milo Minderbinder: Then his parents will get it.
Yossarian: They don't need it, they're rich.
1st Lt. Milo Minderbinder: Then they'll understand.
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dufrenne Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 12:43 PM
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21. it's
a lightwater nuke reactor, which can't be used or transformed to build weapons...not nuke weapon technology...what would be the point of that??
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 12:43 PM
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22. Iran would have a valid reason to turn down the offer
If it is a U.S. plant, the U.S. government could withdraw parts and fuel at any time. So, they would be a the whims of a foreign country for their energy, and one that has a history of causing them harm.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 12:43 PM
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23. I know that. Sometimes, try reading the reply and not just the subject
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 12:43 PM
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17. Dup
Edited on Tue Jun-06-06 10:56 AM by SunDrop23
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