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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:11 PM
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Senate votes for fence on southern U.S. border
WASHINGTON - The Senate voted to build 370 miles of triple-layered fencing along the Mexican border Wednesday, and clashed over citizenship for millions of men and women who live in the United States illegally.

Amid increasingly emotional debate over election-year immigration legislation, senators voted 83-16 to add fencing and 500 miles of vehicle barriers along the southern border. It marked the first significant victory in two days for conservatives seeking to place their stamp on the contentious measure.

The prospects were less favorable for their attempt to strip out portions of the legislation that could allow citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants and create new guest worker programs.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12838263/
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:12 PM
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1. Here we go
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:19 PM
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2. bigger bigger
bush build the fence higher, 10,000 feet high,
build it deeper, 10,000 feet deep,
build it 10,000 feet wide and we can build
condo's on top of it and people could live there.

How do you come up with these brilliant ideas!
invest the entire world's goodwill and economy in to a
wall to keep away the poor. Arm the wall with gun
battlements to keep them at bay... a new west bank
on the south bank.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:24 PM
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10. next fence will be around WH, o wait, there already is one!
The symbolism of this vote is dripping with irony.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:20 PM
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3. Would it not be ironic if, having issued the contract to one of
Edited on Wed May-17-06 02:21 PM by coalition_unwilling
their cronies, the fence were built by undocumented construction workers? :)

And they said irony was dead after 9/11 :)
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:21 PM
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4. Invest in the shovel futures market...snicker
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:21 PM
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5. Senate Votes for 370 Miles of fencing along Mexican border
more:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12838263/

Senate votes for fence on southern U.S. border
Body votes for 370 miles of fencing, clashes over citizenship
• Senate votes to take money away from Bush Iraq war plan to increase border security.
• Bush seeks 'middle ground' on immigration


• BREAKING NEWS

Updated: 3:07 p.m. ET May 17, 2006
WASHINGTON - The Senate voted to build 370 miles of triple-layered fencing along the Mexican border Wednesday, and clashed over citizenship for millions of men and women who live in the United States illegally.

Amid increasingly emotional debate over election-year immigration legislation, senators voted 83-16 to add fencing and 500 miles of vehicle barriers along the southern border. It marked the first significant victory in two days for conservatives seeking to place their stamp on the contentious measure.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:21 PM
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6. a fence will not stop illegal immigration
what's next building a wall, to keep us in and them out. and who will build it, since the illegals will be out.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:22 PM
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7. going the way of Israel
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wrate Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 05:42 PM
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23. Exactly my thoughts. n/t
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Star Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:27 PM
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13. When they say "fence"
do they really mean "wall", like they do in Israel? A 30-foot high cement "fence" to keep them out or us in.

No, no its nothing at all like the Berlin Wall. Whatever are you thinking? <sarcasm>
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:25 PM
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11. Don't Fences Keep People Inside As Well? Like the Berlin Wall?
Is that not how barriers work??
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:22 PM
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8. Photo here...


The tower will be used by the Minute Men
Portapotties will be donated by Free Republic
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RCinBrooklyn Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:22 PM
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9. To be built on the cheap by illegal immigrant labor.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:26 PM
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12. right! if you build it...they'll Still come
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 04:40 PM
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18. No prolly some crooked scum
company like Halliburton will get a contract to build it and charge three times the price to do it.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 02:32 PM
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14. I assume Halliburton will get the no bid contract. n/t
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 03:03 PM
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15. Oh, goody. I feel so much safer now.
Uh, but what about the other 1600 miles?
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 03:10 PM
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16. Say... Why don't they use this money to catch Bin Laden?
I hear tell that he's a slightly greater threat to the US than undocumented workers.

Wait... He's already thrown $400 billion of our taxpayer dollars at Bin Laden and no luck so far. Oh well.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 05:03 PM
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21. Or seed fund National heath care?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 06:44 PM
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25. Or rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast?
I hear money goes pretty far in "that part of the world"... :sarcasm:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 07:47 PM
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32. Or make Native American reservations NOT be Third World standards?
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 03:10 PM
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17. Senate voted to outlaw metal cutters and tunnels.
I remember a line in the movie Patton. "Fixed fortifications are a monument to stupidity, if mountains and rivers can be overcome, anything built by man can be overcome."
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 04:41 PM
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19. No bid contract to Halliburton.
I called it.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 05:01 PM
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20. Time to buy Halliburton
sounds like a juicy one
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 05:32 PM
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22. boondoggle
I don't ever think I've seen a more idiotic idea for dealing with a complex social problem. But that's the present congress. What Dems voted for this?
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 06:02 PM
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24. Not as pretty as the Great Wall of China ... but should be as effective.
*SNARK*
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 06:46 PM
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26. "Senor Bush, tear down this wall!"
Edited on Wed May-17-06 07:06 PM by KamaAina
Cripes. The only coherent moment of the entire St. Raygun presidency had to do with tearing down a wall. Now his self-anointed spiritual heirs wish to erect one in its stead -- right here at home. :grr: :banghead:

edit: can't even bang my head straight...
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 06:53 PM
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27. Oh Jeez, your subject line has me LOL...I needed that after reading
the article - had my blood pressure way up there.
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 06:59 PM
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28. The Senators who voted for this nonsense should pay for it.
Quit wasting taxpayer time and dollars on ridiculous, political pandering. Either immediately deduct the expense of said fence from the senators' paychecks or work on something important for a change - like balancing the friggin' budget and paying off the nat'l debt. Jeez.

"The Fool(s) on the Hill see the sun going down,
and the eyes in their head(s) see the world spinning 'round."
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 07:05 PM
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29. Good! Whew! I can still get out through canada.
Edited on Wed May-17-06 07:07 PM by superconnected
as far as these mexicans coming over the border, someone should warn them about what they're walking into. I mean even without the fence. Would they really want to come if they knew about Bush and Diebold?

The fence is a tell tale sign of where this country is going. Pick on the marginalized first. take money we don't have to show them how much we hate them and build a fence to placate the racists.

And then the fact that they just voted to cut off half of the rest of our exits...

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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 07:14 PM
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30. Now if they can only find illegals to build it. n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 07:21 PM
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31. Dear Senators, have you ever visited the POE at Nogales or Tijuana?
Edited on Wed May-17-06 07:22 PM by blondeatlast
Because I have, and I can tell you that I've seen some amazing feats of gymnastics and athleticism at them both.

Simply as a tourist, I've seen:

Several men try to squeeze through the bars at the revolving gates--and damn near succeed. :scared:

Breakneck runs right past the guards inside the guardhouses--successfully.

Over, under, every which way.

If you think this silly wall is gonna help--DAMN YOU.

It's the fucking employers, stup--er I mean, Senator.

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