McCain: 'Americans should argue about this war'

[Barrett808]

McCain: 'Americans should argue about this war'
Senator urges debate on Iraq in address at Falwell school
Saturday, May 13, 2006; Posted: 2:54 p.m. EDT (18:54 GMT)

LYNCHBURG, Virginia (CNN) -- Sen. John McCain on Saturday said Americans should argue about the war in Iraq.

The Republican senator from Arizona weighed in the conflict that has killed more than 2,400 U.S. troops in a commencement address at Liberty University, the school founded by the Rev. Jerry Falwell.

As a candidate in the 2000 presidential race, McCain had lambasted Falwell as an agent of intolerance. The former Vietnam prisoner of war, a potential presidential hopeful in 2008, has put aside his differences with the minister, who has large following among Christian conservatives.

"Americans should argue about this war," McCain said. While he defended his support of the Iraq invasion, he said people must engage in debate on the subject.

"If an American feels the decision was unwise, then they should state their opposition and argue for another course. It is your right and your obligation. I respect you for it. I would not respect you if you chose to ignore such an important responsibility.

"But I ask that you consider the possibility that I, too, am trying to meet my responsibilities, to follow my conscience, to do my duty as best as I can, as God has given me light to see that duty."

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/13/mccain.address/index.html

[One Honest Guy]

1. "God has given me light to see that duty"

Sounds like a brain tumor.

[AlinPA]

18. Next (At Bob Jones U.): "God wants me to be president". n/t

[MichiganVote]

2. We wouldn't have to if the assholes in Congress did their jobs

[racaulk]

3. That was a university commencement address?

Sounds more like a campaign speech to me. :eyes:

He's still just trying to kiss fundie ass to get the GOP nod for the Presidency in 2008. How terribly transparent...

[joemurphy]

4. McCain should just shut up. He was one of the biggest

proponents of the current fiasco. I didn't hear him calling for debate when we were going in. Now he's Mr. "Americans should discuss this issue".

He's just another asshole that would say or do anything to be Prez. Witness him mentioning all this at Jerry Falwell's "university". Eat shit and die, McCain.
You have no credibility in my book.

[AlinPA]

19. In the spirit of things, "Amen, brother".

[Inland]

22. McCain acts like he was a POW in the lead up to invasion.

As if he was just born yesterday and had nothing to do with it.

"War with Iraq a bad idea? Why, let's discuss it.....three years after the fact."

What a fucking dick.

[teknomanzer]

34. The time to discuss the war in Iraq...

was before we invaded the damned country. All opposition to the war at that time was disregared.

[Rex]

5. You lost Gods light when you leaned in and hugged the Devil.

[henslee]

10. Ewww. That foto always makes me want to projectile vomit.

[biscotti]

6. He has become truly

Disgusting.

[0007]

40. Has become? This man has always been disgusting.

Now he thinks he's gonna kissy kissy the Christian base and reap the rewards junior did.

[TheFarseer]

7. sounds like he was against the war before he was for it.

Wait for him to call people speaking out against the war "traitors" on Monday.

[SammyWinstonJack]

8. God God God God GOD

Put the blame on God why don't they? Can't these politicians accept the responsibilities of their actions without playing the "God" card? Sen McCain (R-Panderer) :puke:

[quiet.american]

9. McCain's 24/7 pandering is painful to behold.

Senator John McCain of Arizona, left, at Liberty University today, with the Rev. Jerry Falwell,
the university's chancellor, whom he once described as an agent of "intolerance."

McCain's giving the commencement address at the New School in New York next. Damn, am I glad I'm not a student there.

[Charlie Brown]

24. Ugh. They even have the same tacky combover

scary

[President Kerry]

35. That right there was the last nail in the coffin of McCain's credibility.

anything from here on doesn't matter. n/t

[Bill McBlueState]

37. that fat bastard

is a disgrace to the concept of academic regalia.

[blm]

11. HAHAH..... McCain trying to commend DISSENT doesn't ring true. Not for

this McCain that has been Bushified since 2001.

[still_one]

12. he is right about that, and even though some Democrats did

many in Congress did NOT, and most still won't use it in the campaign for fear that they will be called unpatriotic

It is un patriotic to stand by while the killing goes on and NOT say anything

[globalvillage]

13. On Friday McCain said this

“We must win. We must win. We must win,” McCain said. “We must stay the course.”

He said the United States cannot afford to back away from the insurgents.

“They want to drive us out of Iraq and follow us here,” he said.

http://www.newsadvance.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=L...

Pandering nutjob asshole.

[grytpype]

14. It's too late for another course.

The other course was not to invade and it's too late for that.

We needed to have this debate before the invasion, but Bush made sure there could not be any debate.

[0rganism]

15. "they should state their opposition and argue for another course"

Thanks, Senator. I'll remember that, the next time some cowardly fascist keys "traitor" on my car door.
:eyes:

[yurbud]

16. He is tone deaf with these religious right types--they want mindless

platitudes not a call to think.

[Ilsa]

17. Oh yeah, right. Now they WANT us to argue about the war so they

can get some pissed police officer after us and throw our asses into a psyche hospital.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2006/05/uppity_clevelan.html

[ckramer]

20. "I am not a crook!"

Nice going Cainnie!

[Inland]

21. No, SHOULD HAVE argued BEFORE the invasion Where the fuck were YOU, John?

before we jumped in with both feet, somebody should have thought about it and discussed it. Like, a certain senator from AZ. Where was McCain? In with the crowd telling us to get behind the president and shut the fuck up, that's where.

[otherlander]

23. *sigh* WHAT happened?

He COULD have opposed the insanity. He almost did. Why did he have to go Bush-bot? Even after 2001, he still spoke out against a few things that the president did. SO CLOSE to bringing sanity into the Republican party, and he just.... went down to Crazy Base World.

[ProudDad]

25. I guess bush introduced McCain to his buddy God, eh?

What a pissant, useless piece of shit McCain is.

He lost it for me when he crammed his nose into bush's armpit in '00...

What a sick display; as bad as Sammy Davis, Junior cramming his head into Nixon's armpit back in '72. Remember that?

[Miss Chybil]

26. Jesus Christ. The "Maverick" has morphed into a Sheep. nt

[Moderator]

27. K

[Judi Lynn]

28. McCain tries to heal rift with the Christian right

May 14, 2006, 1:16AM
McCain tries to heal rift with the Christian right
At Falwell's school, the senator encourages dissent

By DAN BALZ
Washington Post

LYNCHBURG, VA. - Six years after labeling the Rev. Jerry Falwell one of the political "agents of intolerance," Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., delivered the commencement address Saturday at Falwell's Liberty University, where he vigorously defended his support for the war in Iraq while saying that opponents have a moral duty to speak out.

McCain's presence on the campus here was as remarkable as what he had to tell the graduating class of 2006, given his clashes with religious conservatives during his 2000 campaign for president. His appearance continued a rapprochement that has been under way for months with a critical constituency in the Republican Party as McCain prepares for another possible campaign in 2008.

The Arizona senator's speech was shorn of religious references and avoided controversial social issues. Instead, he focused on constitutional principles while touching on themes of humility, patriotism, respect for political opponents and forgiveness that might be relevant to his preparations to seek the Republican presidential nomination again.

The former Vietnam prisoner of war warned of dire consequences if the U.S. mission in Iraq fails.

"Should we lose this war, our defeat will further destabilize an already volatile and dangerous region, strengthen the threat of terrorism and unleash the furies that will assail us for a very long time," he said.
(snip/...)

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/3861838.html

[Skip Intro]

29. mccain can't wait to stick his nose up some freak's ass

over and over again


sorry if that seems harsh


wait, no, not sorry


fuck mccain

[Monk06]

31. The right and the left hate McCain. He's like a candy coated olive n/t

[libodem]

30. It's pathetic

it is so sad to watch him bow and scrape to these people. None of the far-right believes in what he stands for. The pundits degrade him on the radio. It's sad. The boys in the boiler room want Jeb.

[okoboji]

32. loser

how pathetic, he has no credibility..... He probably would sell his mother if it would help get him to the white house.

[noel adamson]

33. A rift with the right is a plus and he should widen it.

[Bill McBlueState]

36. shouldn't this "arguing" have taken place

in 2003? I guess you have to get behind Our Leader when the important decisions are being made, but it's okay to second-guess later on. :sarcasm:

[tomg]

38. Next week should be fun when

McCain speaks at The New School graduation. From the New School website:

"Senator McCain will join visual and performance artist Laurie Anderson, economist and Nobel Laureate Robert Solow, human rights activist Sidney Jones, and leading expert on strategic and sustainable design Ezio Manzini in receiving honorary degrees."

[against all enemies]

39. McCain sucks, but does he have a chance to win in 2008?

Let's face it Americans are pretty stupid, and they'd buy his bullshit hook, line, and sinker.