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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:40 PM
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Poll: Democrats lead GOP by double digits
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A CNN poll released Wednesday may continue the anxiety for the GOP, showing Democrats with a 14-point advantage over Republicans among registered voters asked their preferences in this year's midterm elections.

The poll, conducted for CNN by Opinion Research Corp., found that 52 percent of respondents who were registered voters said they were leaning toward voting for a Democrat, while 38 percent said they were leaning toward a Republican.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/10/congress.poll/index.html
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:43 PM
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1. Wake me up when that margin reaches 30 percent.
The same amount that disapproves of President Bush. I think it can happen.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:44 PM
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2. That means we need to work EVEN HARDER this election year...
...because the Republicon freaks are going to be energized. Let's hustle, people!!

NGU.


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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:51 PM
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3. Agreed!
I pretty good idea what to expect from the pukes. They'll wrap themselves in the flag again, oil is high because the dems blocked refineries, drilling in Alaska, dems are soft on terrorism. Same old bullshit.

That might have worked in past elections, but I think the sheep are waking up. Corporate media is really going to have to work hard for 'their' party. And in the end, I think we'll prevail.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:59 PM
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4. The U.S. has never been weaker than right now under the GOP
They've increased the world terror attacks, they've devastated our reputation, and made us hated.

There is no way peace can be achieved using their formula. The Republicans need to go ASAP.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:09 PM
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6. I agree...these early polling can make people procrastinate in 06
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:00 PM
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5. Audit the vote.....we have to be ready, willing, and...
able to count our own damn votes.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:19 PM
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7. YOU GOT IT!!
The only thing between us and those bastards is their ability to cheat.

This can be nuetralized, quickly. Hell, we really only need 5 points to do this deal!

This has to happen.

I KNOW, not so hard to do.

They really are gonna get their asses handed to them - and if they do cheat, well, all we have to do is catch them - and 2004 becomes much less a mystery, don't you think??

We CAN do this - no 20,000 lawyers needed- just a few Americans. I just don't trust the DLC. They so screwed up last time.

Stillcool - you are still cool!!

Joe
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:29 PM
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8. aw shucks....
I have seen some articles on 'auditing the vote' but, I'm not sure how to go about it....anything that helps democracy seems to be illegal. I guess I could go to townhall and ask if I could just stand outside the polling place and ask people if they would tell me who they voted for, and sign their name...What say you?
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:07 PM
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9. It can be done.
I am an accountant, so I tend to think in numbers anyway. I love american history though, I think it is my counter balance in life. Hell, I even wrote a history book!!

And so you understand, I am from Los Angeles - my friends are accountants - and I don't know one that really belives W really won in 2004 (let alone 2000). We are kinda biased in California, I think. I am biased. My kid went over and is going back to Iraq - so I am really biased.

This is not a difficult auditing question. There could be only two variables - the number of votes and the rate they go dem or rep (or the rate dems vote as opposed to rep).

Its like auditing one number - over and over again.

In 04 it really was literally one number in multiple jurisdictions. In 06 it will be one number, but in about 450 different jurisdictions. That is good and bad, for obvious reasons.

If I were writting an audit program, and I guess about 800 other people here could write a program - It goes like this :

1) I want monitors in each selected precenct to count actual "live" votes.
and I want tracers from exit polling to
2) find the variations and
3) trace true votes back through the system. Then we got them.

We don't have to do it every time, just enough to catch the bullshit. 10% is pretty conservative.

There are only so many ways one could cheat - you stuff a ballot box, by computer or other wise, I see no difference - you'd still stuff a ballot box - right??

We don't have to reconstruct all the voting - just the net results.

Enough to convict any person attempting it with a felony.

Oh, this could be done pretty inexpensively. It is kinda the way the IRS catches cheaters - you see??

Joe

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:33 PM
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10. this mind doesn't do math...
so you lost me on the third paragraph with the word 'variable'...but I follow directions really well...and if somebody could put together a 'how-to'..I'd be on it like cold on ice.:toast:
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 10:05 PM
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11. I really hope someone does that "how to" before it is too late.
Most people don't "do math". That is just normal - That is the clear reason this has to be proven in a fashion that DOES NOT require math, it is true.

We have to use the tools that gain the answer - but the results have to be understandable.

This is a good post -

I know (because of my parents GI bill that helped put me thru school, a lot of us thru school) that we could prove some technical basis to do the right thing. And almost no one would understand it. - What the hell good is that???

That means absolutely shit if that "basis" can't be explained to everybody not so math inclined - cause it is not about math, not at all. SOme of the smartest people I ever met were "math" challenged -

And I am convinced, most people would do the right thing if they knew what that right thing was.

Joe

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Bruden Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:51 PM
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12. bump
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 07:02 AM
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13. Good news!
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 09:58 AM
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14. Yippee, pass the salt.
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