Secret Service Logs Show 2 Abramoff Visits

[deminks]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060510/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_abramoff;_ylt=AioRSTETFu8I5mUA9rVZQems0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OXIzMDMzBHNlYwM3MDM-

WASHINGTON - Secret Service records made public Wednesday show just two White House visits in the past five years by convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff. He stayed a total of 63 minutes, 29 seconds.

The documents are, by the White House's acknowledgment, an incomplete accounting of Abramoff's meetings with administration officials. They were released in connection with a lawsuit by the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch, which had been seeking the records to determine the frequency of Abramoff's contacts with President Bush and others in his administration.

Abramoff spent just over a quarter hour at the White House on March 6, 2001, and almost 45 minutes there on Jan. 20, 2004, the Secret Service logs indicate.

A letter accompanying the logs indicates that the two meetings were all that could be found after a computer-generated search.

[Connie_Corleone]

1. BULLSHIT nt.

[ShockediSay]

11. Says it all .. n/t

[rzemanfl]

24. Way beat me to it. n/t

[stop the bleeding]

2. I suppose they got a bridge in Brooklyn they would like to sell us also

just 2 times yeah right:eyes:

[YDogg]

3. Doesn't pass the smell test.

[stillcool]

4. Baghdad Bob strikes again...

:rofl: because I'm tired of :cry:

[shoelace414]

5. there's a picture of himin the oval office

is that one of these two days?

[gademocrat7]

6. No one in this administration is capable of telling the truth.

The Secret Service, another agency that is not being truthful. Lies are just all shrub and company understand.

[Cooley Hurd]

7. "The documents are, by the WH's acknowledgment, an incomplete accounting"

Yeah, I'd say.:eyes:

[0007]

8. Ain't this terrible. Who ever thought they'd turn 'em over.

We all know Barney ate them.

[lumpy]

9. Bet Abramoff would have

something to say about that.

[heartofthesiskiyou]

10. Very interesting

This places the Abramoff scandle in a whole new light. Previously it seemed that there was no real conection to any of the illegal activities that went up as far as the WH. With information already made public it is known that at least 211 trips were made to the WH during an 18 month period. Of course, this would not include contacts made at the Old Executive Office Building next door, were most business at the WH is conducted. Given that routine business is held at OEOB, this is business going to the highest authority in the WH.

Now we find that the WH is engaged into hiding 1)the number of meetings 2)whom the person of interest was visiting and 3)have engaged into wiping the Secret Service logs of these contacts.

Question1: Who has the power and autority to change these logs 1)whom was visited 2)ajusting the appearance of the records.

This puts illegal activity relating to Abramoff at the highest levels and I'd say standby. Were's there is smoke there is fire. Why would incence attempt to hide inocent activity. We're back at follow the money.

Question2: What is Abramoff telling them?

[global1]

13. How Many Times Did Abramoff Visit Crawford?.....

Also - where was it stated that 'at least 211 trips were made to the WH'. You say that the info was already made public - do you have a link.

[heartofthesiskiyou]

21. Can't remeber were

I'll look around

[UpInArms]

27. USAToday: Controversial lobbyist had close contact with Bush team

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-05-06-abramoff-bush_x.htm

WASHINGTON (AP) — In President Bush's first 10 months, GOP fundraiser Jack Abramoff and his lobbying team logged nearly 200 contacts with the new administration as they pressed for friendly hires at federal agencies and sought to keep the Northern Mariana Islands exempt from the minimum wage and other laws, records show.

The meetings between Abramoff's lobbying team and the administration ranged from Attorney General John Ashcroft to policy advisers in Vice President Dick Cheney's office, according to his lobbying firm billing records.

Abramoff, a $100,000-plus fundraiser for Bush, is now under criminal investigation for some of his lobbying work. His firm boasted its lobbying team helped revise a section of the Republican Party's 2000 platform to make it favorable to its island client.

In addition, two of Abramoff's lobbying colleagues on the Marianas won political appointments inside federal agencies.

"Our standing with the new administration promises to be solid as several friends of the CNMI (islands) will soon be taking high-ranking positions in the Administration, including within the Interior Department," Abramoff wrote in a January 2001 letter in which he persuaded the island government to follow him as a client to his new lobbying firm, Greenberg Traurig.

The reception Abramoff's team received from the Bush administration was in stark contrast to the chilly relations of the Clinton years. Abramoff, then at the Preston Gates firm, scored few meetings with Clinton aides and the lobbyist and the islands vehemently opposed White House attempts to extend U.S. labor laws to the territory's clothing factories.

...much more...

[heartofthesiskiyou]

28. Thanks... There is somewere more info placing the number at 211

I remember the article or TV peice said it did not cover vistits to OEOB or Crawford though there was reason to believe there were a number of vistis to Crawford. I've picked up bits and peices that the Marianna Islands and the Indian gambleing issue was part of the story.

My gut feeling is there is a WHOLE can of worms here.

[Robbien]

14. So you are saying it is not the deed, but the cover-up?

I expect they are hoping they can draw this out till November meanwhile also stopping the MSM from reporting too much on the whole situation.

[cyberpj]

16. Don't forget removing the judge by promoting him to Fed court job...

that was a nice touch too...

Sure hope this gets the attention it deserves. What a joke.

[martymar64]

17. 211 Visits in 18 months

That means during that period he visits the WH about once every 2.5 days. That's almost 3 times a week!!!

[heartofthesiskiyou]

23. Yes.. The number of vistits is what

jumped out at me on the first time I heard this and placed this on my radar. This is going to take some expertise of the inner workings structure at the WH. The Watchdog group needs to focus on whom has the authority and whom would this activity fall upon to change the records in the logs. Whom in the Secret Service, a more indipendant agency, must also posess information of these log changes.

[stepnw1f]

12. Yuh... OKEEDOKIE

[aquart]

15. And the other members of his office? How many for them?

[Loge23]

18. The higher the pile, the more unstable it gets

Just more lies to pile on the ever-growing pile of lies already spoken.
This simply has to end and it won't be pretty when it all falls down.

[Tempest]

19. These are incomplete logs

The SS said last week they wouldn't be releasing all the WH logs.

[Quakerfriend]

20. I'm sure the security cameras caught more than 2 visits!

Can they scrub those too?

[OKNancy]

22. It says in the article that it is incomplete

records

[heartofthesiskiyou]

25. Yes...Good...Good

Whom asked for records to be withheld from the court ordered release of these documents. The SS wouldn't indipendantly make this disission. Looks like back to court to the same judge to ask whom in the WH caused these records to be withheld?

[npincus]

26. scrub-a-dub-dub

[sam sarrha]

29. he had dinner with 2 indian chiefs and Abramoff..

[gizmo1979]

30. Why take so long to turn over

the records then?Why make a big deal out of nothing?Mind boggling.

[Rose Siding]

31. That doesn't even include the 3 that were already confirmed-

snip>
We know of at least three visits by Jack Abramoff to the White House that aren't included in the recently-released visitor logs.

Remember that the only visits the Secret Service's records show are on January 20, 2004 and March 6, 2001.

That means these records don't account for any of the meetings the White House has publicly confirmed: Hannukah receptions in 2001 and 2002, as well as the infamous May 9, 2001, "$25,000 Meeting," of which we have a picture.

In short, the records are a joke.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000611.php

[HuffleClaw]

32. bwahahahhahhahaaaaaaaaa

they really have some gall, pulling a stunt like this. another outright obstruction of justice from the criminal administration. we know how this game is played; a couple weeks from now they'll 'find' some more records, then a month or so after that they'll 'discover' some more...

[MiniMe]

33. He was a member of the transition team. Seems like there would have been

multiple visits in that capacity. How stupid do they think we are?

[leesa]

34. Well, you know how on top of things this SS is. They let the Prez sit at

a publicized event in Florida when there were 3 known and who knew how many more airliners hijacked and flying about.

Oh wait. They knew exactly how many planes and where they were headed. They knew Dimson was completely safe.

[Rex]

35. 2...200...

doesn't really matter to the MSM or the gummit.