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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:32 AM
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(USSC )Anna Nicole Smith gets OK to seek inheritance
Edited on Mon May-01-06 10:06 AM by papau
BREAKING: SUPREME COURT RULES FORMER PLAYMATE ANNA NICOLE SMITH CAN PURSUE PART OF HER LATE HUSBAND'S FORTUNE

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12577236/from/ET/

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Anna Nicole Smith gets OK to seek inheritance
Supreme Court is unanimous in battle over late husband's oil fortune
May 1, 2006
WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court ruled Monday that one-time stripper and Playboy Playmate Anna Nicole Smith could pursue part of her late husband’s oil fortune.

Justices gave new legal impetus to Smith’s bid to collect millions of dollars from the estate of J. Howard Marshall II. Her late husband’s estate has been estimated at as much as $1.6 billion.<snip>

At issue in the legal battle was competing court jurisdiction. A Texas court held a five-month trial before deciding that Smith was entitled to nothing from Marshall’s estate. Smith brought a separate claim in federal court in California.

Justices said Monday that the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals was wrong in ruling that federal courts could not handle Smith’s case.<snip>

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:33 AM
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:35 AM
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6. She might be golddigging, but right is right.
The guy married her knowing she was a golddigger and he did it anyway. If he wanted his son to have everything, he could (and would) have set that up.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:24 AM
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55. Sanctity of Marriage and all, you know.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:54 AM
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66. No matter what people may think of Anna Nicole
The guy's son is about 100 times creepier and greedier. He was already set for life--several lifetimes in fact--but just couldn't stand it that he wasn't getting EVERYTHING he could get his hands on.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:22 AM
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71. Agreed n/t
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 02:59 PM
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83. Maybe the kid could marry his ex-step mother and live happily ever after
No?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:26 PM
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108. They hate each other.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 06:55 PM
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92. I don't care for Anna Nicole but she was married to the guy
and it was his intent for her to receive
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:30 PM
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110. If it was his intent, he sure forgot to let it be known. He left her
nothing in his will.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:20 PM
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104. He did. In his will. Left it all to his son.
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saberjet22 Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:53 AM
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142. with all that's going on in the world,
who gives a shit about Anna Nicole Smith?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:35 AM
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7. back off. He married her and I'll betcha he was happy happy happy.
Every woman knows that when you marry for money, you EARN it.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:36 AM
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8. the old geezer had a habit of liking his women on the wild side
so don't be laying the judgement at her doorstep....she filled a need he had...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:41 AM
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18. How in the world do you know that's true?
She didn't say the "lust of her life." She said "love." By all accounts, the marriage wasn't consummated.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:43 AM
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21. I agree to that !
:puke:

If the son would not have been so damn selfish and gave her "a cut" we wouldn't have to be hearing about this whore and gold digger. :puke: :puke:
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:08 AM
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44. so the guy who brought this upon us = only selfish but the woman = whore?
nice choice of words, pal

:puke:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:28 AM
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58. No, the guy was OLD, foolish and lonely - a perfect "mark"
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:33 PM
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98. J Howard Marshall was nobody's fool. n/t
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:57 PM
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122. so dude, if you are a dude,
I'd guess that we see this differently because I'm in love with an older man and I'm NOT a whore.

Where does your attitude come from, a simple lack of sympathy, a prejudice, mysogyny?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:33 AM
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61. Yup... my point exactly
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:27 AM
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57. well have you checked out the other men she hangs around with...
that old geezer probably had more class and treated her better than them...so at least until this point in her life...he probaby is the love of her life....

I am betting since his pecker was probably out of commission he is the only one to actually talk to her...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:37 AM
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11. Not a hooker, not a gold-digger
They both wanted something out of the marriage, they both had respect and affection for one another, it was his money to do with as he pleased. His extremely rich, more than middle aged son already has a huge trust from his father.

I certainly applaud your right to have your own opinion about the Court's judgment, but I think calling her a hooker is way, way over the line.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:43 AM
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22. Any 'trophy wife' is just a glorifed hooker
if it's not for love -- if it's for convenience or business or money -- it's a glorified prostitution deal, IMO.

That said, I think that Smith has a perfect right to pursue the estate. He married her knowing exactly what the deal was, I'm sure.

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:48 AM
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30. I understand the reasoning behind what you're saying
I just find it incredibly sexist.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:21 AM
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54. I saw a car commercial once where two women were
having a phone conversation about one woman's impending divorce.


The underlying theme was that the woman was not upset about losing her husband, she was stoked because she was getting the car and the house, while the husband (who presumably worked to acheive this, as the woman is defintley portrayed as a 'woman of leisure') gets the shaft, and a hefty alimony settlement he'll have to deal with in the years to come.

This is more than just an advertising gimmick, it is a social norm in our society that it's 'okay' for a woman to marry for money, and, in fact, it's encouraged. (hey, who wants to marry a millionaire)

It is not meat to be a sexist statement, because you could make the same statement about a 'trophy husband' procured by a female professional. However, the law is not as kind to the male, in this case, as it is to the female.

You may call that sexist, too, but it's the truth.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:50 AM
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33. Is this a statement of fact or just a suggestion?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:15 AM
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49. it's a statement of opinion
and nothing more.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:00 AM
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67. Look...
... Texas is a community-property state. She is probably not entitled to half his estate, just that portion that accrued after her marriage.

And as far as I can tell, this gentleman was of sound mind. You don't make a billion dollars being an idiot. If he had wanted to be sure she got nothing, he certainly could have done so, just not marry her, or divorce her.

I find your comparison to prostitution a "so what" kind of conjecture. Two willing participants making an eyes-open trade, as far as I'm concerned it's nobody's business but their own.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 03:27 PM
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86. I thought community property meant half of EVERYTHING,
including assets possessed at the time of marriage, not just that earned after the marriage. No?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 03:30 PM
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87. A common misconception...
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 10:12 PM
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136. Community property only applies to divorces... Right??
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:36 AM
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72. Are Indian women mostly whores?
On the Indian subcontinent most marriages are arranged. The marriages are arranged as a business deal by the parents (I think -- my knowledge of Indian marriage customs is lacking. So if I am wrong please correct me). Anyway, the idea of romantic love and marriage based upon love is considered dangerous in many cultures.

Why are trophy wives so offensive to you? If a man's marriage breaks up he has no right to remarry who he chooses?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:49 AM
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76. They're not offensive to me at all...
I just call'em as I see'em.

And no, I'm not talking about other cultures. Specifically, I was referring to the culture here in the US.

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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 03:15 PM
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85. A lot of that is post-colonialism...

...love is represented in the art and literature of all cultures, present and ancient. So it's validated by all cultures, except creepy oppressive fascist subcultures.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:32 PM
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111. Is Anna Indian? Cause somehow I didn't notice.
Edited on Mon May-01-06 11:35 PM by lizzy
Also apparently Anna and her dear hubby were an interracial and gay or lesbian couple too. And never mind it's a female's family that has to pay dowry in Indian's culture.
Hmm.
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bigluckyfeet Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 03:35 PM
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89. Go Texas Girl
I hope she gets $Millions!
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 07:18 PM
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93. it's a glorified prostitution deal
what the hell do you think marriage was set up for?

it sure as hell wasn't love.

all this crap about the sanctity of the institution of marriage is just that, crap.

check into the background of this wonderful institution. love, as an ingredient of marriage, is a very recent development.

marriage was nothing but a business transaction until recent times. if there was love involved, it was just icing on the cake. the women could count themselves lucky.

talk about whoredom....

as far as biblicly (spelling?), there was a whole lot of forsaking and cleaving going on. but did they run down to the "courthouse", buy a marriage license, trot over to the local church, and say "I DO"?

i think not.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 07:32 PM
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94. no argument from me
I actually added the whole 'love' part as a sort of buffer to offset the subject. :evilgrin:

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:39 AM
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14. Because you don't like her profession
It's all right not to pay her for a job well done?

You think Trump's wife is doing it for free? Or should?

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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:43 AM
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24. I wonder you
would feel the same about a plain jane, ordinary woman who married a rich man, and tried to claim her husband's estate. Just because she is flamboyant doesn't mean she is not entitled to any inheritance.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:53 AM
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34. she wasn't such a slugebucket when HE married her though
she was a beautiful girl. Stripping is really creepy but she WAS gorgeous. The drugs came later and messed her up bad.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:54 AM
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36. Agreed -- very pretty girl.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:08 PM
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124. We must have been viewing two very different women.
Now she's been chizeled into a stepford Barbie. I don't think they could have carved those cheekbones any sharper. Yuck!
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 03:34 PM
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88. Yes, she is, I guess.
I certainly don't like her one bit, but her husband did. :-)
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:31 AM
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60. She's got as much right to the money..
... as the asshole kids who's only accomplishment was to be born in the right family.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:39 AM
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63. That's what I think. And to her I say: You go Girl!
His son comes off as one nasty prick.
I think she is entitled to lots and lots of that cash.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:33 AM
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2. YES! Go Anna!
Screw you, selfish son.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:36 AM
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9. Yeah, after all she devoted all those years to the old fart. :P
:sarcasm:

The old man was angry with his son, and thought: "Shit, let me give it all to the hooker, that will show him!"

Gee, there's no one to cheer for ... everyone's smarmy. Hope it just goes away. ;)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:42 AM
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20. Judgemental much?
Men should be allowed to use women for free? Is that your position? Only male inheritance counts?

Agreements men enter into with women should not be honored?

Your sarcasm is inappropriate. The laborer is worthy of her hire.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:46 AM
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28. You've got this EXTRAPOLATION Problem
And that "victim" mentality doesn't work either. You won't get "dear dear" for I don't buy it for one minute. And yes, I'm a woman - not a "player" - NOT like this smarmy broad who clearly married this guy for the mean green.

To suggest otherwise is intellectually insincere ... and I trust your beliefs are anything but insincere.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:54 AM
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37. sure, but I'll bet they both went into it knowing precisely what...
...they were doing. This is consenting adults, all the way. Not my cup of tea, but no one was harmed and both of them got something they wanted out of the deal, at least now that Smith has prevailed on the question of whether her husband's wishes should be honored. I understand your reluctance to feel good about their marriage, but that really was up to them, IMO, and I seriously doubt that either of them was unaware that that they were using one another.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:01 AM
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41. They both did -- there was no secret manipulating
He wanted a pretty, bubbly young woman to take care of him and keep him entertained... she wanted to raise herself up from her lower-end socio-economic background. The word "gold digger," to me, has a manipulative connotation. And, I REALLY hate her being called a prostitute -- that is so offensive on so many different levels. Especially since the son's big thing is that the marriage wasn't consummated, so the marriage wasn't "real." Whatever.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:14 AM
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48. and what do you think he was...?
An innocent victim?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:20 AM
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53. He was an old man who was lonely and wanted his son to pay
more attention to him. Really, the old fart is a victim - he was lonely. His son did not pay enough attention to him, but I'd bet that the old man would not want the hooker to get the lion's share of the estate. Why? Because it is his son, not some pretty broad that kept him company.

With "trophy brides" IMO, the MAN has an EQUAL ROLE in breaking up the marriage. That testoserone surge in the 40s really kicks in. But a man in his 80s or 90s is LONELY not really trying to "get some" in the same sense of the term.
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:11 PM
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99. What an incredibly sexist thing to say...
In fact this whole thread is so full of sexism and bigotry I am highly surprised to see it has been allowed to continue.

You have ZERO knowledge of what this man was thinking and feeling, or what this woman was thinking and feeling when they entered into a relationship. In fact you are basing your opinions on what YOU would have done.

Maybe she LIKES old men? Maybe that is her fetish? Maybe she actually got a sexual and emotional thrill out of having an elderly man for a husband. You have no idea. Yet you make out that this man is some sort of victim. Maybe he HATED his son and thought he was a worthless piece of trash. You don't know. Maybe SHE treated him with respect while the son treated him as a term deposit ina bank and was simply waiting (and hoping) for him to die. You have NO IDEA!

You also refer to a PERSON as "the hooker". Such depersonalisation is a hallmark of bigtry.

Well, all I can say is THE ASSHOLE who wrote that post is a sexist bigot. How dare he judge ANYONES relationship without personal involvement. Does he also think same-sex relationships are not real? What about inter-racial relationships? Or is his bigotry solely aimed at inter-generational relationships? In any case it is still bigotry based solely on what HE thinks is a "proper relationship".

Sickening.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:29 PM
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109. WTF does it have to do with interracial relationship?
Seems to me you forgot to throw in a kitchen's sink when describing Anna's relationship with her dear departed hubby.
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 02:09 AM
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112. What it has to do with it is...
that some people look on inter-racial relationships as abhorrent and abnormal. Like wise with homosexual relationships. In my opinion neither you me or anyone else has a right to judge ANYONES relationship - and especially NOT to the degree of calling someone a WHORE or HOOKER because of their chosen relationship.

In other words it is none of our business who she or her late husband wanted to marry, and we have no right judging their decision.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:46 AM
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119. Oh, she obviously married who she wanted.
But I will call it as I see it.
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:49 PM
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135. She? What about HE???
Or do you only aim your vitriol at the WOMAN in the equation?
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 07:46 AM
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114. Comparison of another type of bigotry -
and a valid one, IMO.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:12 PM
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125. What incredibly rude assumptions you seemingly pull out of "the air"
You really need to take a step back and analyze the situation instead of this sad attempt to look into my psyche.

I'm sorry that not everyone will agree with your "poor dear dear victim theory" ... on either side! There's no GOOD PLAYERS in this saga. That doesn't make people who disagree with you sexist, OR even MEN, i.e., I'm a woman. ;)
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:45 AM
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145. Self-delete
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:25 PM
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107. But he didn't. In his will, he left it all to his son.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:29 PM
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128. Now there's the RUB!
If the son was NOT such a selfish a**hole he would have given the gold-digger at least a quarter of the estate immediately after the old geezer's death.

See, I put down BOTH the son and the father in addition to the "poor poor dear Anna." Again, there's no heros in this saga. True JUSTICE would make them all come out penniless, having to manage a bowling alley on the night shift. ;) :P

Some folks really need not let this "get personal" and begin assuming facts not in evidence nor the psyches of other posters. BTW I burned my training bra for WOMENS LIB in the early 70s. However, I do not choose to stand-up for what I honestly consider - either gold diggers or trophy wives. <curtsy and exit stage left>
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JohnnyLib Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:34 AM
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3. Justice rules, sex sells
God bless America !
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:34 AM
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4. Somehow I'm Not Surprised ...
Like Corrupt Politicians, Gold Diggers and Carpet Baggers seem to thrive in BushWorld. :puke:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:35 AM
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5. Good.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:37 AM
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10. She must have flashed 'em during oral arguments
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:15 AM
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50. you really think that's what persuaded Ginsburg?
Or did you just forget your sarcasm smilie...

onenote
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:51 AM
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65. Not GInsburg
Mainly Scalia and Thomas
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:38 AM
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12. Anna Nicole Smith gets OK to seek inheritance(link)
The Supreme Court ruled Monday that one-time stripper and Playboy Playmate Anna Nicole Smith could pursue part of her late husband’s oil fortune.

Justices gave new legal impetus to Smith’s bid to collect millions of dollars from the estate of J. Howard Marshall II. Her late husband’s estate has been estimated at as much as $1.6 billion.

Smith has been embroiled in a long running cross-country court fight with Marshall’s youngest son, E. Pierce Marshall. The court’s decision, which was unanimous, means that it will not end anytime soon.





http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12577236/from/ET/
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:48 AM
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29. Looking far into the future.....When Nicole is past the age to have her
face ironed out anymore a young man will come into her life and give the 'old lady what most every dying old woman wants.

After her death, while the young man is counting his money, he'll tell the media & the world that he and Nicole had an affinity that is beyond words.

Life goes on and the merry go round never stops.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:49 AM
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32. You got that right 0007, what goes around - comes around :-) eom
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 07:41 AM
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140. And don't forget, Anna does have a son.
This could go full circle.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:10 AM
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46. Thanks for posting this - There was no link when it was just "breaking"
:-)
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:40 AM
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15. Favorable ruling expected from those boobs. n/t
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:22 PM
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106. No doubt. She had her secret weapons, after all.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:44 AM
Response to Reply #106
113. I was referring to the boobs on the Supreme Court. How could you
think otherwise?
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Schmajo Donating Member (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:43 AM
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23. link
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:45 AM
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27. Good for her. n/t
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:49 AM
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31. I saw a photo of them kissing
Edited on Mon May-01-06 09:52 AM by FreakinDJ
yuck


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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:19 PM
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103. I saw a photo...
of two men / two women / an inter-racial couple kissing - Yuck!

Of course what I think has no bearing on whether their relationship was "real" or "proper" or not.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 08:40 AM
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141. Look at this photo..Dear God, the girl EARNED that money. n/t
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:53 AM
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35. Goody...now we can rest peacefully knowing the republic
is safe for golddiggers...male or female...sheesh...!
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:56 AM
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39. Gold Digging for Fun and Profit
No wonder after the last election they claimed it to be a Moral Vote

Here we go again
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:56 AM
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40. And I'm going to print off that picture above and tape it to my fridge!
That will kill my craving to break into the freezer for a Dove Bar.

Oh Gawd, that is just WRONG. <clawing at my eyeballs> :puke:
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:21 PM
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105. Yeah - how dare anyone not conform to MY ideas of...
a REAL marriage or relationship!

Or is it really none of my business?
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:55 AM
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38. Good For Her!!
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:42 AM
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64. Hell yes. Cut the pie as one might the fact is that he MARRIED her
It is way past time to hand over that cash.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:05 AM
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43. I am trying to figure out...
How this affects me in any substantive manner.

I am stumped.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:09 AM
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45. It means making sure that, if you have substantial
Edited on Mon May-01-06 10:10 AM by ShortnFiery
cash and savings, you draw up a prenuptial agreement before marrying anyone you don't know WELL. Someone you've known for less than a year or two ... you don't really know who you are marrying. It happens to wealthy women too, but much more rare occurrence - gold digging is usually accomplished by female hookers.
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:14 PM
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100. And being an asshole is usaully accomplished...
by bigots on message boards making sexist comments about people they have no personal knowledge of.

Give me a "hooker" over an asshole any day.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:31 PM
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129. I'd prefer neither, nor would I call you such derrogatory names :-) n/t
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:48 PM
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134. So...
You wouldnt call me a derogatory name, but you have no problem calling someone you have never met or spoken to, nor had any personal experience of whatsover, derogatory names.

How brave.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #43
52. It's just a case about federal jurisdiction
so it doesn't affect you in a substantive manner.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:25 AM
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56. Like in today's BushWorld we'll never make THAT much money ...
we'll be lucky to break even when he's done having us invade Iran and then Syria. :(

Nope, you're right, it's not us little people's problem. :hi:
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:40 AM
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73. Yes, it's about federal jurisdiction...
The Bush Administration subsequently directed the Solicitor General to intercede on Smith's behalf out of an interest to protect federal court jurisdiction in state probate disputes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Nicole_Smith

"This is a victory for the federal courts over state courts more than it is a victory for Smith," said CBS News legal analyst Andrew Cohen. "The ruling does give her an opportunity to vindicate her rights — but it doesn't guarantee that victory. What it does guarantee is that the federal courts can sometimes get involved in probate cases like this."

http://cbs4denver.com/nationalpolitics/politicsnational_story_121101746.html
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:43 AM
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74. The ruling was unanimous
so I doubt it had much to do with Bush. Clinton's administration probably would have done the exact same thing.
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:47 AM
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75. I guess time will tell
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:12 AM
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47. I guess this is more important than that other SC ruling...
about presenting evidence in capital cases.



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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:16 AM
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51. Oh, for pete's sake, just give the girl HER MONEY. People may not
like her, may call her a golddigger, but she WAS LEGALLY MARRIED to the guy, who by all accounts adored her. She is entitled to a fair share of his estate.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:30 AM
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59. Oh yeah, his son deserves it so much more, just for being born.
NOT.

Think of it as redistributing the wealth.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:35 AM
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62. Then how about
we redistribute it to the poor and disenfranchised INSTEAD of EITHER ONE of the smarmy characters? :applause:

I was just conveying what I THOUGHT the old fart's true sentiments were - my opinion - I'm admittedly no mind reader. :hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:18 AM
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69. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #69
79. I think, with as little as you know about me, you think TOO MUCH
With respect, you're over doing this stuff. :hi:
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 08:53 PM
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95. You Are Castigating Me For Thinking "Too Much"!!!


On this thread I sorta feel like the voice crying out in the wilderness. I responded to your unnecessarily pejorative, mean-spirited comments, but you are one, of apparently many, inconsiderate calumniators weighing in here slamming Ms Smith. To name-call is an easy and thoughtless reaction to an unusual, complicated situation.

I would hope that with a bit more thinking, of the original, non-lemming variety, you and those others who have made nasty comments about this plaintiff will find it their ("bleeding heart liberal") brains and hearts to get off the hate band wagon. It is a mob mentality and it is not very pretty. It sucks IMHO!

Save yourselves from the cesspool of conventional wisdom! Please consider not reacting mindlessly, but attempt to rationally consider radical, fundamentally different responses to this type of story.

Show some love!

What would Jesus do?

I am an Atheist myself, but I am sure that with more love and respect for EVERYONE, and some critical thinking, the tenor and pertinence of this thread will substantially improve.

Try it! Not just when you are considering these frivolous issues, but in every area, arena and aspect of your existence. Don't be a another sheep, especially in this forum, where your comments are read by others. Set an example of tolerance and respect for newbies (like me!) to study, learn from, and emulate.

With real love and respect.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:16 PM
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126. "voice crying out in the wilderness?"
Oh please do stop? That is over the top. :wow: IMO, you are way way, too INTENSE (assuming facts NOT in evidence) on this CURRENT EVENT, i.e., non-personal topic. :wow:
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:17 AM
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68. Mr. Lucky Sperm. n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:22 AM
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70. Her actions cheapen the sanctity of marriage way more than gay marriage...
Edited on Mon May-01-06 11:22 AM by JVS
would.
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #70
102. Why? Cause she married someone and stayed with them...
till their death?

Yeah what a blow to the sanctity of marriage! :eyes:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #102
127. Yeah, how many months was that?
:eyes: I doubt that she had to get her hands dirty. EVER! :P :crazy:
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #127
133. I dunno...
Seems her time wasnt far off the average length of an American celebrity marriage to me.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:52 AM
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77. Who gives a crap
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 12:00 PM
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78. Jeeze, just give her the money. She was his wife and is entitled to it. nt
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 02:26 PM
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80. If You've Got It, Flaunt It!
If you've got it, flaunt it! :bounce: :thumbsup: :rofl:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 02:41 PM
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81. Maybe she could give Bush a Monica-like beaner so we could bury him, too.
Edited on Mon May-01-06 02:52 PM by Lastlaughin08
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 02:44 PM
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82. What??? A "beaner"?
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 07:53 AM
Response to Reply #81
115. What's a beaner?
It's a racial slur where I come from. Is it a euphemism for "blow job"?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:39 AM
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117. It's one where I come from, too!
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 03:05 PM
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84. Yippee!
I smell a new Reality show. Can it get any better than this? What a great supreme court we have. Always with the money for the little people, you know.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 06:30 PM
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90. She is one of the little people
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 06:38 PM
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91. I can't seem to get the word "whore" out of my mind...
:eyes:
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:02 PM
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96. ???
Edited on Mon May-01-06 09:40 PM by clixtox
Why is that? Please read my previous posts on this thread, #69 & #95. I have a few thoughts about your mind that are there for you to read...

Whores are people too!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 07:56 AM
Response to Reply #96
116. "Whores are people too!"
Edited on Tue May-02-06 07:57 AM by ShortnFiery
I feel this issue is like watching the flick "The Devil's Rejects."

All the players in this story are disgusting examples of humanity.

If there were any justice in this world, they'd liquidate the old fart's estate and send the money to Darfur, Sudan. :-)

Now anything less, IMO, is just trying to choose the LEAST SMARMY character to get all the marbles. It's a false choice.
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 10:58 AM
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120. Non Sequitur

This issue has absolutely nothing to do with "choice" or choosing who deserves to share in the estate of Anna Nicole Smith's former husband. The issue is about who has the legal standing to be a beneficiary under the terms of the deceased's wishes, as stated in his will(s), in the State of California.

Do you deserve your money more than others deserve theirs? Does your estimation of someones "SMARMY" quotient have anything to do with their suitability to enjoy what is rightfully, and legally, theirs.

By the way... How much of your wealth and resources have you sent to Darfur? $10, $25, $100 or more?

The DU site, IMHO, is about current events, reasoned argument and the opportunity to share opinions that are seasoned with knowledge, perspective and humanity and which reflect the progressive ideals of honor, equal justice and social morality. That is what I prefer to read, anyway.

Gratuitous denigrating of those who are controversial is pointless, and usually will cause the instigators and participants to look like mean spirited jerks.

Think about it!

Some more...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 11:05 AM
Response to Reply #120
121. I did ... all that is important - These are the dregs of humanity!
Edited on Tue May-02-06 11:06 AM by ShortnFiery
It's not gratuitous denigration, Not one of the above PLAYERS have ANY redeeming qualities ... NADA! It's like watching an episode of Jerry Springer to remind the Average American that neither poverty nor wealth will buy one common sense or good character.

But still, "Whores are people too?"

You got that right! ;) <tease!>
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #91
101. And I can't seem to get the word...
asshole out of mine. Although I have a feeling that my word is tied to a personal experience and knowledge rather than what I have read in a newspaper or seen on TV.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:39 AM
Response to Reply #91
118. Why? She wasn't his "whore," she was his wife
And NO ONE has a right to call her a whore because of that.
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hholli11 Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 07:17 AM
Response to Reply #91
139. The word ASSHOLE comes to mind for people needlessly judging her, so...
Edited on Wed May-03-06 07:18 AM by hholli11
YOU have no right to call her a whore...and unless YOU'VE paid her for sex, you'd be a liar to do as much.

You (meaning all you people, not necessarily 'you' in the singular) have NO RIGHT to try and usurp her rights.

She had a husband. He married her. Whether you agree or not, when it is really NONE OF YOUR GODDAMN business to begin with, is really immaterial. He died. She is now a widow. How she handled her grief (or lack thereof) is really none of your damn business either. He had a will that hadn't been updated since they were married. So it's in court. One would think her stepson would had been more respectful of his father's widow regardless of how he felt about their relationship, but his showing his ass over and over again is finally starting to catch up with him.

Put yourself in her shoes. Or put yourself in the son's shoes. You have already lost your father. He has already left more money than you could ever spend, unless the Hope Diamond is up for grabs, but you know what I mean. Comes now his ditzy widow. You can't stand her. You think she's tacky. You think she's a whore. She's still your father's widow, and should have been treated as such. A few million (which is like a few hundred to you or me) would have sent her on her happy little way, but instead, you have to try and insult her...to show her...to GET her somehow.

If you want my two cents, I think this has an awful lot to do with who 'got' whom, and who wants to 'get' them and how, I think the son WANTS her to be his whore in the worst possible way.

Just my humble opinion.

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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:28 PM
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97. Hooray for Anna!
I hope she gets a fat pile of loot from the greedy son.
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carlydenise Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #97
123. Me too
I watched her show for the time it was on....she looks a whole lot better since she lost all that weight, there is no way she lost all that weight using that diet pill, no way....but anyway, I hope she gets a good chunk.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 02:05 PM
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130. I'm torn
Part of me is all: You Go Girl, but I still don't like this decision. The Bush Administration had attorneys representing Anna Nicole Smith here. Why do they care? Cause the TX probate ct. gave her nothing & the federal court gave her an inheritance. The Bush Ad. wants the federal court's ruling to preempt the state's ruling to give the federal gov. more control over probate(traditionally a state concern). It's part of the whole judicial power grab they're doing right now.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 02:13 PM
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131. a few facts about this case.
The "will" the son has is questionable - Anna Nicole was kept away from her husband in the last months of his life by the greedy son and his lawyers.

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 02:47 AM
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137. it just shouldn't be this hard
a wife should be first in line for the husband's assets, period, end of sentence

it just shouldn't be this hard for the man's damn WIFE to get her money

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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 06:55 AM
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138. You go Nicole! She is so interesting in a train wreck kind of way.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:23 AM
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143. C'mon, she earned a couple of bucks for sleeping with the old coot!
Edited on Wed May-03-06 11:24 AM by npincus
Go, Anna Nicole!
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:35 AM
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144. He probably died a very happy man.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 12:07 PM
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146. She was nowhere to be found the last few months of his life. n/t
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 01:46 PM
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147. locking
Thread has cease being productive and flames are being tossed from all directions.
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