Ex-neighbors were warned about suspect (Texas teen raped by two with pipe)

[Judi Lynn]

May 1, 2006, 1:46AM
Ex-neighbors were warned about suspect
Family reports finally moving out because of hostile actions on street



HCSO
David Henry Tuck, 18, of Spring, is accused in the beating and sexual assault of another teen.
Keith Robert Turner, 17, of Spring, is accused in the beating and sexual assault of another teen.

By PEGGY O'HARE
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

A black family was welcomed to a new neighborhood with words of warning about the people living across the street in the nondescript residence.

Another resident saw visitors regularly greeted with Nazi salutes and shouts of "Heil!" when they arrived at the home in the 3400 block of Nutwood.

A constant stream of young people sporting military garb, combat boots and shaved heads flowed to and from the house.

For some, that's what life was like in the Spring neighborhood where assault suspect David Henry Tuck lived, according to two families who ultimately fled the subdivision, partly because of what they described as the unbearable surroundings.
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The 17-year-old victim, who is Hispanic, remains unconscious at Memorial Hermann Hospital, but is improving slightly, according to John Longoria, a friend who visited him during the weekend.
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http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3831053.html

[VolcanoJen]

1. Those stories are horrifying

It's so hard to believe that such hatred lurks maybe just around the corner... it's a frightening, chilling article.

[WatchWhatISay]

2. This is just about 10 miles south of where I live

My daughter doesn't know the victim (& doesnt go to school in that area) but she has several friends who do. She said he has lots of friends and is well thought of. They are all pretty upset about this.

But the KKK actually holds rallies at least once a year in this general area. They get many protestors, but they get some recruits too.

[wakeme2008]

3. And the reason the Texas DA says this isn't a Hate Crime is

:grr:

[rodeodance]

5. something about the penalites would be the same.

[saigon68]

17. He must like Anal Rape

Its the coming thing in America


A constant stream of young people sporting military garb, combat boots and shaved heads. Behaving like their counterparts at Abu Ghraib

And sticking nasty objects up the rectums of "Brown Men"

[Raine]

19. Good that he likes it so much

and if he doesn't he better get used to taking it cause hopefully he will be on the receiving end when he is in prison.

[one_true_leroy]

18. hate crime much harder to prove...

and the penalties would be the same, unless the victim dies. The DA is taking the best option... easier to convict w/o hate charges for the same penalties. If the victim dies, though, a hate crime conviction allows for death penalty, and the DA would presumably pursue that path.

[BlueCaliDem]

26. And the media serving this up as...

..."two young men sodomize and brutally beat a hispanic 17 year young man for kissing a 14 year old WHITE girl."

Yeah, there's definitely a subliminal message of racism in it, but heck, it ain't no "hate crime"...

[0007]

28. Sounds logical to me

[Oversea Visitor]

4. Sometimes your law crazy

This kind of people are like terrorist.
They terrorise everyone around them. Now and then they do hate crime and innocent people get hurt.
Maybe my country got less freedom of speech. We throw people like this in jail. Very plain they serve no benefits to society. They like cancer if untreated grows and hence the result.

It is silly to allow law to protect this kind of behaviour. You take freedom from the innocent and give freedom to people like this your society goes upside down.

[alcibiades_mystery]

6. It would be easier to bear if it weren't such a fucking joke

We have "freedom of speech" in this country in order to sanction legalized bribery. Everything else is just window-dressing for purists and idiots, which is to say, for idiots.

[Tesha]

8. How kin they be terraists? They're white! (NT)

(Do you really need a :sarcasm: tag?)

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

11. It is already upside down, friend.

We are trying to get it right-side up.

I have said this before, but I will say it again: I am right now re-reading a book called "The Silent Brotherhood", a story about an extreme right-wing group that was known, in the news, as "The Order". They committed many armored car robberies and killed Alan Berg, a talk show host. They were the "fruit and flower" of the extreme right, with Nazi overtones.

Their rhetoric, and the rhetoric of those who were associated both materially and philosophically, is indistinguishable from the rhetoric of the republican party of today, minus the overt Nazi references. Completely the same. The John Birch Society(From which this all seems to have sprung) rhetoric is exactly what is being promoted as policy.

Get the bo0k and read it. You will learn that the most radical of the right wing, those who were involved in militias and other right-wing groups of the 80s and 90s are now in control of one of our political parties.

[kurth]

7. "The neighbor from hell":

Houston Chronicle / April 30, 2006
'He gets joy out of pain'
Neighbors and classmates say teen accused in pipe attack often brought trouble
By BILL MURPHY, DAVID ELLISON and JENNIFER RADCLIFFE

...Neighbors and schoolmates expressed little surprise that Tuck, 18, stands accused of savagely beating a 17-year-old boy and kicking a pipe up his rectum. Alvaro Rivera, who lives two doors from Tuck's home on Nutwood, said he once was forced to stop his car because Tuck was frozen in a Nazi salute, blocking Rivera, who had his wife and children in the car. Tuck soon moved aside, and he and his friends laughed at the family as they drove by, Rivera said.

Tuck infuriated several families in the subdivision when he trained young children to bow down and praise Hitler, said Richard Rogers, Tuck's next-door neighbor. Two years ago, Tuck hung a swastika flag above the family's garage, but it was later taken down on subdivision officials' orders, Rogers said.

Rogers and his family would sometimes wake up at 4 a.m. to rap music, with lyrics replete with racial slurs, blaring from Tuck's house. On Martin Luther King Day about two years ago, Tuck paraded around the subdivision with a swastika flag. Tuck, who lives with his mother and siblings, is "the neighbor from hell," Rogers said.

Tuck once killed his stepsister's dog, breaking at least several of its limbs, Rogers said. Tuck deposited the carcass on a neighbor's lawn, said Rogers, who called Tuck "a psychopath."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3829809.html

[BreweryYardRat]

22. There's a point when you arrange a shallow grave for people like this...

...and this sub-human slime weasel passed it long ago.

Some of the male neighbors should have just done the morally right thing and made the SS-wannabe disappear.

[Nevernose]

9. "His mother has denied her son has Nazi sympathies"

"...he trained young children to bow down and praise Hitler."
"...forced to stop his car because Tuck was frozen in a Nazi salute."
"...Tuck hung a swastika flag above the family's garage, but it was later taken down on subdivision officials' orders..."
"On Martin Luther King Day...Tuck paraded around the subdivision with a swastika flag..."
"...a skinhead who had Nazi symbols tattooed on his body..."

No, mom, this isn't a swastika tatooed on my chest. It's, uh, a thing that, uh, represents, uh...oh, look at the time! I don't wanna be late for school!

CAN WE PLEASE GET THE PARENTS SOME PRISON TIME ALONG WITH THEIR KIDS?

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3829809.html

[mike_c]

13. with respect, what earthly good would that do...?

Imprisoning the mother, I mean? It wouldn't undo any of this. It wouldn't change any future psychopath's behavior. Collective punishment is not the answer-- the time to do something about the family was years ago. Punishing them now, when it's too late to accomplish anything, is just taking revenge against the wrong people, IMO.

[Nevernose]

20. Imprisoning her would make me feel better

Rationally, of course, everything you said makes perfect sense, and I wasn't seriously advocating collective punishment for the mother of an adult. That doesn't change how I feel though, and sometimes I feel like stupid people should be locked up and the key melted down and dropped to the bottom of an ocean.

On a purely academic level, I am of the opinion that in certain situations parents should share in the punishment for children who commit crtain crimes. They're already usually civily liable, but the state of parenting "these days" is truly frightening.

[bitchkitty]

23. No earthly good at all.

Earthly good would have been voluntary sterilization. But people like her would never miss the chance to unleash their spawn into the world.

That sounds hard and cold, maybe. But I work in a place that deals with children in crisis, and you just wouldn't believe the sheer BADNESS that I see every day.

[Vogon_Glory]

10. Right-Wing Radio Ignoring These Two Cherubs?

The existence of people like these two little cherubs :sarcasm: is no doubt being studiously ignored by right-wing radio, which STILL claims that hate crimes are grossly exaggerated and that hate crime legislation is an attempt by "libruls" to grab power.

:argh:

Hmmm...Spring, Texas...Isn't that Tom DeLay's territory?

[gkhouston]

15. no, it's not part of Delay's district. n/t

[Turbineguy]

12. Maybe it has to be expressed in terms

Repubs understand:

Declining Property Values.

Nutwood. Ironic that.

[warrens]

14. Ah, the Young Republicans club!

Unfortunately, these poor kids will now be denied the opportunity to head their local college's Republican club. All because of liberal judges mollycoddling criminals like that kid they sodomized,who was probably an illegal immigrant and definitely uppity.

[Judi Lynn]

16. Where WILL we get the future Republican leaders, if the keep harrassing

them like this?

What if we run out of them?

[Blue_Tires]

21. i wonder what their FR screennames were!

[saigon68]

25. LOL

Frick and Frack

[MissMillie]

24. They will, no doubt, blame their legal troubles on their victim

it's so maddening... what people do because of fear.

[David Zephyr]

27. In Texas, all you have to do is plead "homo anxiety" made you do it.

It also works in Tennessee. Judges in the South love boys who murder queers and brutalize minorities. It recently worked in Tennessee again.