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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:56 PM
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McCain confirms opposition to federal marriage amendment (uh-oh)
Apparently, each state should decide that gay couples are "different" than straights. I can't wait to see the conservatives explode.

http://www.sovo.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=6223

Sen. John McCain confirmed April 13 he’ll vote against the proposed federal Marriage Protection Amendment, which would constitutionally define marriage as between “a man and a woman.”

McCain made the statement the same day a Washington Blade article questioning his stance was published online. The senator’s office did not respond to the Blade’s repeated attempts for comment before publication.

During an appearance in Iowa, McCain reiterated his opposition to the proposed constitutional amendment, which the Senate is likely to vote on in June.

“I intend to vote against it,” he said. “I believe each state should decide.”
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:57 PM
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1. Senator McCain feeding red meat to the sex bigots.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:57 PM
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2. Give state's the power to take away constitutional liberties
Yeah mccain, you'll get my support.

PLEASE, WOULD SOMEONE TELL ME WHY THE CONSTITUTION HAS TO BE AMENDED TO KEEP GAYS FROM GETTING MARRIED?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 05:26 PM
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5. Actually the states have always had the power to decide who
can marry. A federal amendment would be another attempt by the reich wing to take away the state's rights. The republicans have been working hard at taking away the state's ability to enforce laws concerning pollution, drivers licenses, and healthcare. They want the federal government to be all powerful, and that power to be in the hands of the executive.

the states aren't always right, but as a general rule, the states should have some freedom to make laws in areas not covered by the federal government.
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:37 PM
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7. Good points, but I have a question
what happens to the "full faith and credit" if I have that right.
States have different rules re marriage already: age, residency, property division in case of divorce and such.
Mr 'pede and I were married in FL but now live in TX. If we divorced we'd be subject to community property laws in TX, but FL isn't a community property state. If we married at 14 and it was legal in FL but later moved to TX where the minimum age was 18, our marriage would still be recognized.
So, if a same-sex couple marries in (say) MA but moves to (say) NE which doesn't allow same-sex marrige within their borders, what happens?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:33 PM
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8. I think the the states have to recognize the marriage, but
more theocratic states say they don't.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:58 PM
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3. One foot on the dock, the other on the boat, and the boat is leaving the
dock.

You need to make a decision, John. What's it going to be? The end of the dock is getting closer, and you'll be in the water soon if you don't commit to one or the other.

This will not gain him any points with progressives, and the conservatives will go bat shit crazy over this revelation.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:42 PM
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4. Wow, McCain just kissed the 08 nomination goodbye with this!
The far right already thinks he's a communist, and this just confirms it.
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:01 PM
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6. My thought exactly. All those righty fundy bigots banging their fists
on the dinner table tonight is going to make the same sound McCain will make when he keels over after once again failing to garner his party's nomination.
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:11 PM
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10. Not if Bush kicks Cheney to the side and
makes McCain VP.:shrug:
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:43 PM
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12. It's OK - he can act as Bush's sweat sponge on the rubber chicken circuit
After all, he did such a GREAT job on that back in 2004.`
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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:00 PM
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9. Might be a sign of less fundie influence. Their radical policies
have significantly weakenend the Repukes. I'm glad he is taking this stand. I worry about this amendment bullshit. It is a step toward Nazism here, I fear. I suspect he'll take various stands that will piss off corporatist, fundies, independants in the next year as he positions himself again as a "maverick" and in the middle.
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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:22 PM
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11. Good choice...
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 09:23 PM by Jack_DeLeon
States rights are a good thing, or perhaps yall that support stronger federal government would prefer the constitutional amendment that would effectively eliminate gay marriage nationwide?

IMO this is the best compromise, diversity is a good thing, and people should have more choices at the state and local level.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:51 PM
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13. Good for Mc Cain
I despise the man but applaud his opposition to this amendment.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 09:35 AM
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14. Didn't DOMA already define marriage as between a man and a woman?
The Defense of Marriage Act was signed in 1996. How is this any different?

http://www.domawatch.org/about/federaldoma.html
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