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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:50 AM
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Berlusconi recount call after cliffhanger
"PRIME Minister Silvio Berlusconi demanded a recount of votes in Italy's election last night after losing office to left-wing rival Romano Prodi in a photo finish.
Mr Prodi, who claimed victory before the result was clear, won the lower house by 25,224 votes out of more than 38 million votes cast - a majority of 0.01 per cent. "

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,18790411-2703,00.html

:rofl:


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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:51 AM
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1. Is he using James Baker to head the recount effort?
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:53 AM
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2. What is wrong in Italy?
Why did so many vote to keep this crook in office?
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sidpleasant Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:05 AM
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6. He kept calling the center - left coalition "communists"
The fat degenerate owns or controls all the TV networks in Italy. He's spent the last couple of months monopolizing the airwaves with scary b.s. about how voting for the opposition would mean turning the country over to Commies.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:10 AM
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7. Same scam they ran here. the right wing owns the media, the polling
companies, the voting companies, etc. I'm sure they used every trick in the book to steal votes, discourage voting, whatever they could. Also, RW articles like this which would put it neck and neck at all times so the theft is not so apparent.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:06 PM
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10. What a compliment to the United States:
now they're emulating us in their electoral politics. ;-)
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:38 PM
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12. Voting machines
It was Italy's first election using them.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:57 PM
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14. He made the trains run on time.
And he owns much of the media that was informing
the nation about the contestants.

Tesha
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:54 AM
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3. If they used electronic touch screen voting without a paper trail a
true recount is pretty much impossible.
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:03 AM
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4. here are the ballots they use
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:03 AM
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5. Sore Loser!
You lost, get over it!
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:14 AM
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8. if Diebold got to Italy, we know the results
Berlusconi will win with more votes than were cast.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:45 PM
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13. Accenture (Arthur Andersen) is in four districts.
As far as I know, they had paper ballots to back them up.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:13 PM
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19. Good they had paper ballots
Arthur Anderson couldn't add very well as I recall and they let Enron spiral out of control. How interesting they went into the voting business btw.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:05 PM
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9. Hey, Berlesconi, don't you realize that Prodi now has a mandate ...
just like Dubya did? ;-)

Well, maybe Berlesconi figures that he can buy the type of recount that he wants.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 12:09 PM
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11. Don't these righties realize that 701 votes is a mandate?
.01 percent must mean an overwhelming landslide . . .
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 03:09 PM
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15. What's Italian for Bush vs. Gore?
They said Bush won, then Gore won, then Bush won...I don't want to go down that road again. And Italy used electronic machines for the first time?

:eyes:
rocknation
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 03:28 PM
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16. Uh-oh. Evoting in Italy....does this sound familiar?
Voters in the four regions will cast their ballots just like everybody else and the votes will be counted as before. It is what happens next that changes.

The authorities at each polling station will enter the results into a computer and save the data on an encrypted USB memory stick that is formatted to work only on certain computers.
snip---
The main contract was awarded without a public tender to Telecom Italia, the nation's dominant telecommunications company and the former government monopoly.

It hired the consulting firm Accenture to do some of the work. Gianmario Pisanu, a partner at Accenture, is the son of the interior minister.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/04/04/news/rome.php
:argh:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 03:34 PM
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17. Compare to the headlines aqnnouncing Bush election as fait accompli in
2000.

Interesting, that.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 03:36 PM
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18. i don't believe either country had such close votes... ours or theirs. it
stinks.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:21 AM
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20. Berlsuconi REFUSES TO CONCEDE: "Nobody now can they they won"
ROME - Political uncertainty clouded Italy's future as Premier Silvio Berlusconi refused to concede defeat to center-left leader Romano Prodi in one of the closest elections in the country's recent history.

Berlusconi, alleging irregularities, demanded a recount, a process that could take weeks. "Nobody now can say they have won," he said Tuesday.

Prodi emerged the winner of the election by a razor-thin margin and promised to form a strong government able to run a deeply divided country mired in economic stagnation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060412/ap_on_re_eu/italy_election
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:21 AM
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21. Silvio, don't go away mad....
Silvio, just go away.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:21 AM
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22. Burlesque-oni should know.
After all, he paid for the votes and employed the people who fixed the machines and disposed of the opposing votes.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:21 AM
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23. Sidenote: 27 Italians have died in Bush's Invasion...
:grr:

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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:21 AM
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24. You still here?
Disappear scumbag! :grr:
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:21 AM
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25. YOU LOST - GET OVER IT
:rofl:
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:21 AM
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26. berlusconi might be providing us here with an advance look at what may
happen in 2008 when bush's term to give up the throne comes in ... the bushes love power so much, poppy the malevolent is so jacked-up about having his dump to the world sitting in the oval office, that i think they will not walk out of the white house voluntarily.

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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:21 AM
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27. Yeah, we'll end up with Jeb in 2008. n/t
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:21 AM
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28. permanent Chimp--he's NEVER leaving -----EVER!!
they'd have to drag him out kicking and screaming!

He's in office for the rest of his life-

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:04 AM
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31. Get a grip.
It's not *, it's the gang. They'll be perfectly satisfied with another member of the same cabal running (or appearing to run) things. And * does love vacations.

Term limits and the appearance of normalcy are perfectly fine with them.

If the Democratic candidate wins, however, all bets are off.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:17 AM
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32. what if the democratic candidate wins
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 09:17 AM by shadowknows69
and immediately starts acting like a neocon.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:03 PM
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:33 AM
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29. Bluebear The Best Part About Berlu Wanting A Recount
Is that it is HIS party that is being investigated for irregularities. The press is gonna crucify Berlu. Everyone hates his guts. This is gonna get good. Notice how the press awarded the contest to Prodi? They took Bushes tactic from 2000 and used it against Silvio! Bring on the recount Berlu and expose YOUR PART IN THE VOTE FRAUD! Yahoo!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:22 AM
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30. Boo Hoo
Fugg Silvio - off to prison you go.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:48 AM
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33. silvio, *silvio*, SILVIO...

don't be a SORE LOSER.
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