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Eugene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 06:48 AM Original message |
US rule demands proof of citizenship for healthcare |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. Well, at least "they" can abuse ... |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 06:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. What will happen to the "CHILDREN" ? |
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DUHandle (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
30. In Wisconsin, for now at least |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
70. I think the repuke legislature with Gard at the Helm |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. We have to draw a line |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 06:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. ok -- under your scenario -- someone will get sick and die. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Wake up |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 09:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. you wake up -- we can afford health care for u.s. citizens |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Correct -- the government can afford it |
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MockSwede (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Government = Us |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Apples and oranges |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 12:27 AM Response to Reply #52 |
105. Wonder how this plays out in smoking in bars and such? |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. We're Supposed to Be the Government; But |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
79. The government is corporate American. |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:53 AM Response to Reply #34 |
50. Bravo! |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. Great post. Absolutely dead on. nt |
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President Kerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 05:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
83. You did it again. Thoughtful and true. |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:09 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. Thank you, Mr. President |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
99. I'm not pissed at anyone. But let me point out the word 'illegal' in your |
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judaspriestess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
109. great post #50 |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 05:47 AM Response to Reply #50 |
133. thanks very much. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
93. Good luck dealing with people who by into the republican |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
98. Next they'll claim they can deport people who can't prove citizenship. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 05:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
132. There is enough to go around-We just are too greedy! |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Sorry to say |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. unfettered any kind of immigration has never devastated our country. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #35 |
49. We have yet to have unfettered immigration. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. ''illegal'' immigration became a problem AFTER |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
55. SO US Citizens first...then maybe white middle class next..... |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
72. Wrong. |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. This is fucking insane |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. What's fucking insane is so many here |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. They do it every day |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
26. Every person, you included, does it every single day. |
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President Kerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
85. nice try.. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #85 |
100. To the contrary, I know at least one thing, and |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
88. only a collective effort can make a real difference |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #88 |
101. Then we'll need to be collectively mindful of the choices we make |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
47. Most of the third world has perfectly functioning health care systems |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
127. I think they would prefer illegals to just drop dead |
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darkmaestro019 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Human decency? (nt) |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
58. don't illegals pay any taxes? |
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President Kerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 05:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
84. Unbelievable. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Unbelievable. |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. I never got the memo either bowens. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Do you think its ok |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:14 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Here's some info that lends perspective to your concern- |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 09:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Great link Rose, thank you! |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Of course not, how ridiculous. |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 05:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
80. If you think that this law will help those currently not treated |
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President Kerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 06:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
87. I believe your anger is mischanneled. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. The US can't be effective |
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President Kerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
86. Right. On. n/t |
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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
24. There is a problem -- but it is with our bureaucracy |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Let me tell you the problem with THIS line. |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #25 |
46. care for health first |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
68. False dichotomy. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. And THAT is key.... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 10:15 PM Response to Reply #68 |
103. As opposed to the illogical fallacy |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
92. wow.. brilliant... I'm sure the neocons would love that, do love that |
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Flucius (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
95. Bingo! |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
124. the american taxpayer pays for health coverage for iraqi citizens |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
4. Fabulous |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
9. what a nightmare for patients and staff! And Feds can deny payment. |
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twiterpatted (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. The FED should not require the private sector to do its job! |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
10. Jesus wept. |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I imagine Jesus has been sobbing hysterically |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 10:54 AM Response to Reply #10 |
39. Thank you. |
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twiterpatted (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
11. Papers Please!!, Where are your Papers!!!! Give me your papers!!! |
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darkmaestro019 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. What you said! And welcome to DU! (nt) |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:35 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. They were also trying to make priests ask worshipers |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 09:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
111. Not worshippers |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 06:59 AM Response to Reply #111 |
116. My bad. But many of those asking for help could |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
15. now would be a good time Catholics to break with the Repukes |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
28. Republicans hate Latinos |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
29. Yeah, like being an American citizen guarantees you anything |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
31. Obviously a Christian Nation did this |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. The pukes should read about the woman at the well. She was |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:10 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Since I'm not a Christian, and don't think Christianity should |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
97. Just calling the Republifundies on their BS |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
36. This law also applies to LEGAL immigrants. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
37. In order to get Welfare of any kind you need to show your |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
81. Healthcare is not welfare. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 09:39 PM Response to Reply #81 |
102. Welfare is not a bad word in my vocabulary! And in most states |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 01:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
106. What does that have to do wih whether or not illegals, |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
123. And you can get your fake birth certificate at this web site.... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
38. This could only create public health nightmares that negatively |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
42. This law, like Sensenbrenner's legislation, is to compel social agencies |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
45. Oh, that's just fucking brilliant |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
65. That same thinking applies to the uninsured. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. No argument from me. The lack & quality of health care in America |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. It is a people thing. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I'm in the choir on that one |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
82. It's just another step on the neocon agenda. |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
126. Doesn't anyone think in Washington? NO thinking is not permitted n/t |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
48. The Republicans put the screws on with Healthcare |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
51. Any idea who the people are that won't have to show |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. The white ones.... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
53. Culture of life. |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
56. and will we require proof of citizenship before accepting their taxes? |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. This rule applies to Legal Immigrants as well. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
110. Illegals with phony documents pay FICA, Social Security, etc |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
57. How does this impact green-card holders who do NOT have US passports... |
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ckramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
61. Dogs are treated better than human |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
64. It is immoral to deny healthcare to ANYONE. |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:43 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Yes it is immoral, and doctors and hospitals |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #66 |
120. very right. they're using docs as cops n/t |
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The Flaming Red Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
67. So during the next great epidemic |
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caledesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
69. Let 'em die! That's what Jesus would say. |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
74. How does Canada handle this issue? |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #74 |
121. we would be turned away without a doubt. |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
77. I have no response..I'm in shock over human cruelty! |
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MurrayDelph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
78. Helloooo Tuberculosis! |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #78 |
96. excellent post. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
90. >cough< >hack< >spit< Don't mind the case of TB next to you on the bus... |
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Rainscents (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
91. Shit, this is another one of those bill it was hiden from the public! |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. And there are du members up there, glad to join them. |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-11-06 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
104. the law is silly |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
107. This thread is SO frustrating. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Taking care of our own includes treating those who would be infectious. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. IMHO, you need to change your boardname. |
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BuddhaGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 09:59 PM Response to Reply #107 |
115. my...how utterly democratic and progressive of you |
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flashdebadge (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 11:39 AM Response to Reply #107 |
117. I agree with you. One of the reasons health care is so expensive is |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #117 |
128. been drinking the kool aid ????? |
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flashdebadge (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. What a thoughtful response. |
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IndyJones (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 01:56 AM Response to Reply #117 |
130. You got it!. You must live in CA, too. And 87 hospitals so far. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
113. My wife works at a community health center.... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 05:50 AM Response to Reply #113 |
134. It always comes down to situations like the one you just wrote about. |
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classics (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-12-06 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
114. Someone please tell me I'm wrong... |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
118. I cannot afford health insurance, but I'm too well off for Medicaid. |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
119. plenty o' free healthcare in Mexico |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 12:09 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. For Americans? nt |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-13-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. no. we can go whistle |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 05:44 AM Response to Original message |
131. so, this their answer to reducing the deficit. !! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 05:51 AM Response to Reply #131 |
135. It is a simple minded 'solution" to the problem posed by our 'leaders" who |
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daringthedevil (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 08:43 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. Usually a commonsense answer is simple one. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 08:49 AM Response to Reply #136 |
137. That, Sir, Is Not Much Of A Recommendation |
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daringthedevil (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 09:55 AM Response to Reply #137 |
138. Yes, but this is a simple problem. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-14-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #138 |
139. Not Really, Sir |
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