More remains discovered near WTC site

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/28/wtc.remains.ap/index.html

Construction workers cleaning toxic waste from a vacant skyscraper near the World Trade Center site have found more bone fragments and human remains, officials said Tuesday.

The city medical examiner's office plans to extract DNA from the latest remains to be recovered from the former Deutsche Bank building and try to match it against a database of the 2,749 people killed at the trade center on September 11, 2001, said Ellen Borakove, spokeswoman for the city medical examiner's office.

Fire Department crews had inspected the building in the months following the attacks, but construction workers clearing gravel off the rooftop found 10 bone fragments there last fall.

The new remains were found in recent weeks by crews doing a more thorough cleaning before construction workers begin dismantling the building in May, said John Gallagher, spokesman for the Lower Manhattan Development Corp.

[THUNDER HANDS]

1. wow

how horribly awful.

[Tiggeroshii]

24. why the smiley

...some pretty morose humor there?

[THUNDER HANDS]

36. sorry

that is my sig line. Sometimes its innappropriate. Especially when i use a :mad: smiley right above it.

[RandomKoolzip]

35. Dude, that happy face better be in your sig line.

[MadMaddie]

2. And the tragedy never ends.....

[merwin]

3. Why don't they put the same amount of effort into identifying and finding

the missing bodies from Katrina?

[saigon68]

20. The people from Katrina are not stock brokers or bond traders

They are by and large poor minorities. Ergo in the words of Cheney they are "useless mouths"

[Adelante]

28. There were plenty of victims who were not bond traders

There were plenty of working minorities. There were cops and firemen. There were busboys. There were receptionists. There were shoeshine men. There were cleaning women. Don't let your agenda get in the way of your brain.

[phylny]

21. EFFORT?

They're cleaning up a building that was damaged 4 1/2 years ago. The remains have been there for 4 1/2 years.

What speed! What quickness! What compassion!

[tanyev]

25. At least there is a victim's database.

Something I don't think we'll ever see for Katrina victims.

[hippiechick]

4. Finding FRAGMENTS, 4 1/2 years later ...

... but we're still supposed to believe they found a 'whole stewardess', bound, gagged and a nearly pristine passport for one of the 'hijackers' almost instantaneously ?

Riiiiiiiiiight ...

[Copperred]

5. ya that never made any sense...

and is it true they never got any of the black boxes either?

also that they took all teh carnage and immediately put it in a waste dump..never to be seen again.

[Canuckistanian]

17. Somebody said that 3 of the black boxes were recovered

Some friend of a fireman who's a member here, I think.

[soleft]

6. Did you check out that thread yesterday posting pics from

I think Free Republic. If you look at those photos of the devastation - the idea that they found Atta's passport is mind scorchingly ridiculous.

[spotbird]

13. Do you have a link? nt

[anotherdrew]

27. actually the official story isn't that it was Atta's but another hijacker

somehow it just got reported everywhere that Atta's passport was found, but if you look into it it turns out that the found passport belonged to a different one of the purported hijackers.

[wicket]

8. And we're also supposed to believe...

...that it was determined that several of the hijackers had shaved their bodies completely, while others had not.

[Up2Late]

9. Where did you hear that (about the flight attendant)?

Sounds like some of the bogus info from one of the conspiracy theory web sites.

And the only story I heard about Passports were that they came from the hijacker's luggage that was found in the trunk of the rental car in Boston, could it be the same one?

[rooboy]

11. Atta's passport was not found in a car...

it was allegedly found in the rubble of the WTC.

[Up2Late]

14. By who? Who is making this allegation? Do you have a link?

If so, could you post it?

I'd like to investigate this allegation.

[rooboy]

22. Google has lots and lots of links... also check 9/11 commission report. nt

[Pastiche423]

15. It wasn't Atta's

It was supossedly Al Suqami's.

A mistake of ID made often.

[Poll_Blind]

23. Not the whole stewardess, just her bound hands (link inside)

From Snopes.

PB

[hippiechick]

31. further down that link ...

"...Another rescue worker found the body of a flight attendant in the debris of the fallen towers, her hands bound. " ...

[lumberjack_jeff]

32. From the article

Investigators retrieved a pair of severed hands bound together with plastic handcuffs from the World Trade Center debris, police sources said on 14 September 2001:

Police sources said the severed hands were found on the roof of a building near the collapse site. The hands were cataloged Friday at the medical examiner's office at 30th Street and First Avenue, which is the main facility for the painful and painstaking process of identifying the dead and establishing the cause of death. Other bodies and body parts are being brought to temporary morgues.
Plastic handcuffs, often known as "Flex-Cuffs," are widely used by law enforcement agencies, particularly during large-scale protests. In recent years, airlines began to carry plastic handcuffs as a way to restrain disruptive passengers.

Another rescue worker found the body of a flight attendant in the debris of the fallen towers, her hands bound.

[Poll_Blind]

34. Missed that, thanks! n/t

PB

[NVMojo]

7. just like Katrina ...

[soothsayer]

16. They're probably Katrina victims.

[Dancing_Dave]

10. Blown to Smithereens

These people were blown up by high explosives, they did not just fall down in a collapsing building.

The remains should be chemically tested for explosive residue. Then we could really learn something from this.

[KittyWampus]

33. I've finally given in to that possiblity of explosives. Held out on that

one for a while. Didn't have any problems with LIHOP/MIHOP but didn't think the explosives were feasible...

[Up2Late]

12. More info and computer animation of the Deutsche Bank building dismantling

Go to the link below, then go to the bottom of that page to "Related Links," Click the one that says:

"View a computer-generated video animation of the deconstruction process" (very cool)

<http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/130_liberty_street__77170.asp>

[SeattleVet]

19. I worked in that building for 8 years. The 38th Floor (where they just

found some remains) was a Data Center on the side by the WTC South Tower, and office space on the side away from the WTC. It was full of computers, raised flooring, cableways, air handlers, ducting, and lots of power and communications equipment. I can see that there would be plenty of spaces for remains to be hidden for several years, until they started removing all of the raised flooring panels and cabling and began the process of cleaning out underneath.

I was a Systems Manager (Assistant Vice President) on Digital Equipment Corporation VAX/VMS systems at Bankers Trust, working there from 1984-1992. I left in October; they set the truck bomb off in the garage early the following year.

[IndianaGreen]

18. This is a damned outrage!

This is as outrageous as the finding of Katrina victims after all this time.

What is wrong with these people?

[lynne]

26. Not surprising that remains are still being found on rooftops -

- especially smaller bone fragments. Given the degree of human destruction when WTC collapsed, I would think that carrion eating birds probably feasted and took their bounty to rooftops and similar high perches. There are probably bits and pieces of remains scattered over the roofs of all Manhattan.

Gross, yes. But true.

[Rex]

29. What's a few bones to a mass murder/war criminal?

Bush will probably run down to his Ground Zero Victory Site as fast as his poll number legs will let him, slide (belly first) across the mass pile of rubble and death with a bullhorn saying, "We hear you! America will not forget your sacrifice!"

[Minnesota Libra]

30. I hope some more families can have peace of mind now and find.........

....out what happened to loved ones.:cry: Any mention of the WTC still gets to me.:cry: