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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:08 PM
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Rumsfeld Singled Out as Crisis Deepens in Iraq
Published on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 by the Guardian / UK
Rumsfeld Singled Out as Crisis Deepens in Iraq
by Julian Borger and Jonathan Steele

A former US army general yesterday called for Donald Rumsfeld to resign on grounds of incompetence in Iraq, hours after Ayad Allawi, the former US-backed Iraqi prime minister, declared the country to be in the thick of a civil war that could soon "reach the point of no return".

Three years after Iraq was invaded, statistics published yesterday show that the frequency of insurgent bombings and group killings is growing, but both Mr Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, and George Bush have vowed to fight on.

"Turning our backs on postwar Iraq today would be the modern equivalent of handing postwar Germany back to the Nazis," the defence secretary wrote in a Washington Post commentary, as the administration tried to quell growing concern that the conflict was unravelling beyond Washington's control.

President Bush made a brief appearance on the White House lawn to say he was "encouraged" by progress on forming a unity government in Iraq. But he had no other good news to mark three years of a war in which more than 2,300 Americans have died, and which has so far cost $500bn (nearly £290bn).
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http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0328-02.htm



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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:09 PM
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1. The problem: who in their right mind would want that job?
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 12:14 PM by CottonBear
I think he can't resign because no one else will take the job.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:12 PM
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2. It's a disaster anyway you look at it....
He should have never had the position in the first place...If they do replace him it has to be an experienced military man....that is the only logical answer to this problem.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:13 PM
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4. A military person has to have been retired for ten years. Any thoughts?
I really have no solution to this dilemma.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 01:19 PM
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12. Maybe a retired military person from Iraq 1...
Whoever it is has to be a strategic thinker and a negotiater...
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:14 PM
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5. Joementum may be looking...
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:19 PM
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7. Somebody will have to do it
The only problem is that there is no reason to have any confidence in the ability of the Frat Boy to choose that person.

It isn't just that the nations defenses have been drained by a ill-advised and poorly planned colonial war. It is also the draining of the fiscal health of the federal government and the accompanying damage to the economy as a whole. If the economy looks good on paper, as the Bushies claim, and yet people are worried, then we must look to damage to the social fabric of America due to the increasing maldistribution of wealth. That, at least, can't be blamed on Bush directly since it started in the seventies.

That's a big mess to clean up. Hopefully, the next president will be somebody who thinks he can clean it up and not just some megalomaniac who seeks personal aggrandizement.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:06 PM
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14. Corporations are doing well. People's economies are failing.


We have a negative personal savings rate. To me that means that we spend more than we make, and too much of the spending is on credit. It's all shored up by the housing 'bubble', and that's a really sick way to fund an economy.

I think you're right, that people are worried because they see their 'economy' as endangered by anything that would impede their income temporarily. Who DOESN'T know someone who has been 'offshored' or otherwise laid off? And that very same worry I think puts a millstone around the neck of the economy. Somethings gonna happen.
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vicman Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:54 PM
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10. Since Joementum
is falling apart, I think Lieberman is the perfect asshole at the perfect time. He loves this war. Let him run it.......
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:13 PM
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3. msnbc said Rummy/Pace press confer at 1 pm ET
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:18 PM
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6. What difference would it make anyway? The damage is done.
If he leaves, it'll only serve as a temporary diversion, one that the pro-Bush press will point to as proof that something real and tangible is being done. Rumsfeld's successor wouldn't exactly be making any drastic changes that could undo what Rumsfeld inter alia has done. Even if he/she wanted to.
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:20 PM
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8. Where's all the good news? Damn media is to blame! Say the freepers
Imagine not wanting to know the truth. Head-up-the-assitus.

How much time does an attitude like that buy them? Sooner or later they must face the music and dance to a different tone.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:21 PM
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9. This is so far beyond any single resignation or any one person
taking the blame/responsibility (except for the God-King), that it is a pointless argument. I would love to see Rumsfeld humbled and led out of the Pentagon by men in white coats, but it isn't going to happen. Bush doesn't have the balls or the gumption to fire Rumsfeld and Rumsfeld is too narcissistic to quit. If he is forced out through some form of palace coup, he will go on to be a billionaire in the Carlyle/BEFEE and live like a king for whatever is left of his worthless, twisted life...sorry...
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 01:07 PM
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11. He should be dismissed in a special ceremony similar to that
used for the disgraced banker in Mary Poppins.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 01:35 PM
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13. he should be dismissed, marched to jail & assets sold off for replenishing
Treasury
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:30 PM
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15. We'll need someone who can tell America we've "lost"
and that now it's just a matter of how many more will die in further pursuit of a mistake. Can you really see any Republican willing to do that? About the only one I can think of might be Ron Paul, and he's from the Libertarian wing of the Repukes.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:43 PM
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16. Read it here!
Rummy & and his fuck ups

FIRE RUMSFELD NOW!

MEGALOMANIAC DEFENSE SECRETARY
MUST GO – FAILURE TO INFORM BUSH
OF IRAQI PRISONER ABUSE, REFUSAL TO
OBEY LAW ON PROBE INTO MURDER OF
MARINE COL JIMMY SABOW, ENOUGH
REASON FOR “RUMMIE’S” OUSTER
WHEN WILL SEN. McCAIN AND WARNER
CALL FOR RUMSFELD’S RESIGNATION?

© MilitaryCorruption.com – 2004
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:44 PM
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17. Let's start with Bipolar Boy Rummy...
And move on from there. Let him get the fsck out then we can start weeding out the rest.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:47 PM
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18. That boy monkey hugging tool from AZ can take the job.
Rummy the Dummy can just tell him what to say and do.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:31 PM
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19. which tool?
McCain or Kyl? Both equally toolie
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 01:41 PM
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22. LOL. I had McLame in mind, he's a good 'yes' man.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:36 PM
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20. Fire Rumsfeld? Hell, fire Bush and Cheney!
Impeach the two of them and clean house!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:59 PM
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21. The problem with Rumsfailed
is he's too old. He was too old to take the job 6 years ago. I think he's pushing 78 now.

Hell, it took him 6 years to figure out that the U.S. is "losing the propaganda war". He spouts on about the media, lies can spread at the speed of light around the world, we can never win in the image war if we don't do something".

He just doesn't get it. He probably has a few decent advisors left after he gutted the Pentagon. They probably have meetings with him, 2 maybe 3 times a day to tell him what is wrong.

He's finally getting it......

but it's too late.


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