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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:38 PM
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CNN/AP: Reagan spokesman, Lyn Nofziger, dies
Reagan spokesman, Lyn Nofziger, dies
Monday, March 27, 2006

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Franklyn "Lyn" Nofziger, the rumpled and irreverent conservative who served President Reagan as press secretary and political adviser, died of cancer Monday at his home in Falls Church, Virginia. He was 81.

Nofziger, who joined Reagan's ranks early in the political career of the actor-turned-politician, headed the White House political office during the first year of the Reagan presidency and then quit to form a political consulting and lobbying firm.

Former first lady Nancy Reagan said in a statement Monday: "I was deeply saddened this afternoon when I heard of Lyn Nofziger's death. Lyn was with us from the gubernatorial campaign in 1965 through the early White House days, and Ronnie valued his advice -- and good humor -- as much as anyone's. I spoke with him just days ago and even though he knew the end was near, Lyn was hopeful and still in good spirits."...

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Conservative columnist George F. Will once described the nonconformist, cigar-chomping Nofziger, as "Sancho Panza" to Reagan's Don Quixote.

Asked why he was leaving the White House, Nofziger replied, "I don't like government, it's just that simple." He denied as "99 percent untrue" a report he'd quit because of his exclusion from the president's innermost circle....

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/27/nofziger.obit.ap/index.html
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:59 PM
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:03 PM
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2. harsh
I used to see him shopping at the local grocery store. Hard to feel hate for the guy.

onenote
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:06 PM
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3. Uncalled for...
In all respects...the kind of post I would expect to see on FR.
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:30 PM
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7. He'll just be replaced by another "Lynn"
His death is meaningless in preventing the insanity. But I agree with you -- I have no great sadness for his death.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:00 AM
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8. Fuckin' A.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:15 AM
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:11 PM
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4. I would have liked for him to apologize for the felonies he committed
That never happened.

Regrettable.

Anyway, I hear Lindsay Lohan will be getting the part in the new Wonder Woman movie.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:25 PM
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5. While I was never a fan of Nofzinger
I always did like the way he dressed. He dressed not-to-impress.

I find it interesting that "Lyn" was the name he wanted to be known by.
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cannabis_flower Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:02 AM
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14. While I don't know much about him...
and his work with Reagan. I know him for his later support for medical marijuana and am sorry to hear that he died.

From his website - http://www.lynnofziger.com/musings.htm :

June 23, 2005—A reader who generally agrees with me (he must be a right-wing kook) takes issue with me regarding my support for legalizing the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes. He worries that that would be a step toward legalizing marijuana for general usage.

First of all. I do not favor such a step although for the life of me I cannot see why a society that permits the general use of alcohol, in many ways more dangerous and more addictive than marijuana, can justify the use of the one but not the other.

Let it be noted here that I have never tried marijuana, but cannot say the same for whiskey, gin and other alcoholic beverages.

But back to the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes. Two points. One is a matter of states rights. If the people of a state favor the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes what right does the federal government have to deny them that right? I know, the Supreme Court recently handed down a far-fetched ruling that used the constitution’s interstate commerce clause to outlaw the growing by an individual of marijuana for that individual’s personal use. Ridiculous!

Point two. Regardless of what the feds say, marijuana, while not a cure, does have a palliative effect. It has been known to stay the advance of glaucoma. It relieves pain in instances where nothing else seems to work. It can ease the effects of multiple sclerosis. And this: An adult daughter of mine died of cancer a number of years ago. Like all cancer victims she was given chemotherapy treatment, the side effects of which were nausea and diarrhea which weakened her and caused her to lose weight. None of the legal remedies, including the highly touted marinol, helped. In desperation we turned to marijuana. It did the trick. It ended the nausea and the diarrhea. She actually put on weight. Of course it did not cure her, neither did the chemotherapy, but for while it did make her life more bearable. And yet this administration of so-called compassionate conservatives continues to ban the use of marijuana for people for whom such usage would make their lives more bearable.

Now I know what they say about marijuana—that it is worse than tobacco. But remember these things: First, users of medical marijuana do not smoke two or three packs a day. They smoke a relatively small amount. And second. If you are already dying or are in constant pain who cares if marijuana is bad for you? Not I.

If the time ever comes when I am in constant pain and nothing else works, believe you me I’m gonna find me some pot, the administration and the supreme court to the contrary not withstanding.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:26 PM
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6. I'm saddened by this.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:47 AM
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10. Nofziger's view on current repugs
(snip)

"They've been in power too long," Mr. Nofziger says of Republicans. "Any time you put any political party in power for too long, it becomes corrupt. It loses its focus. It forgets why it came there."

When it comes to the so-called neoconservatives surrounding the president, he says, "?'Conservative' is a word that doesn't mean anything. It can mean what you want it to mean."

But then he serves up a definition that he says he and Mr. Reagan were using before they met each other in 1965.

"To me, conservative means believing in a minimum amount of government and a maximum amount of freedom -- and keeping government out of people's lives and business -- and leaving people alone," Mr. Nofziger says. "I recognize you have to have national defense and have to finance the government. But government does not have to be the be-all and end-all."

more…
http://www.mypartytoo.com/news/11-23-05c.htm
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:33 AM
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11. Remember to get out your waders
the best way to LIE to people is to salt it with TRUTH, and of course I suppose no one has noticed that the republicans, actually moreso the Neocons have basically STOLEN the Democratic messages and symbols?

Remember when McCain was a "Reformer", then Bush's pals trashed him and his wife and his "BLACK LOVE CHILD", right after that Bush had a big sign behind him that said, "A REFORMER WITH RESULTS.."

They are Chameleons, they use whatever people WANT to hear, which is what the democrats USED to stand up for and call their own, and THEN the Repigs do whatever they want, steamrolling over everyone, wiretapping them, etc..

This guy helped put a man in office who probably starved more people than Stalin did, old people, students, welfare moms, you name it..

He was SCUM, and it's about time people quit pussyfooting around when one of these SLIME dies and call them for what they ARE, MONSTERS, DEMONS, Insane sickos.. I won't apologise for wishing creatures that starve old ladies go to Hell, that's where they crawled out from and where they deserve to BE..

Taking the high road with these guys is like sticking a rattler in your sleeping bag to keep warm.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:50 PM
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18. "starved more people than Stalin did.."??????????
There wasn't a whole lot of "compassion" in Reagan's conservatism, and there's a lot of bad things that he was responsible for during his presidency (the genesis of our crushing national debt, Iran/Contra, giving the OK for the CIA to sponsor Latin American death squads)...but please tell us who he "starved"?

Meanwhile, Josef Stalin was an individual directly and indirectly responsible for millions of deaths through forced famine, not to mention executions and imprisonment in Gulags.

I don't point this out because of any particular affection for Ronald Reagan, but because your statement is so off-the-wall ridiculous and bizarre it's embarrasing to read.

Finally, I feel bad for Mr.Nofzinger's passing. He was a human being, and hardly what one could call a "monster", regardless of what you say.



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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:43 AM
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20. Go read a census
Did you actually live in the Reagan era? Were you a student, an elder person? Did you happen to notice how many social programs were GUTTED?

As for any of these people being worth any kind of sympathy, this is exactly why they'll take folks like you and other liberals who excuse their actions and line them up against the wall - think THEY will have any remorse?

It's time to call a spade a spade and these people are and WERE EVIL. You don't feel sympathy for devils, if you do, you're just asking for them to do YOU in..

Sorry you can't see the mayhem and destruction caused by these bastards, maybe if someone had been kinder to them they wouldn't have left all those elderly to eat cat food all day, cut their pensions, call Ketsup a "vegetable", etc, etc..

Disagree all you want, as a Veteran, drafted in 1971 I've seen plenty of death in this country for no reason other than greed and power, and I fought for YOUR right to express your opinions as well..
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:44 AM
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21. I see your point
The "ketchup is a vegetable" thing signaled the start of the era of Republican heartlessness, arrogance, and corruption. Didn't mean to offend - I just thought the comparison with Stalin was stretching things past the chewing gum breaking point. Peace.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:17 AM
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12. my soul has become so hardened by alll the bushit boy's doing ...
that while i may have never felt sorry for any reagan/bush people passing away (i know i did not for for ronnie i cannot feel sorry for nofziger or any of these break down the people gents.

o God, please forgive me. I have become so hardened.
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:46 AM
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13. Reagan was such an awful president
His entire administration (esp. his Vice President) is an ugly stain, that still smells no matter how much Fabreeze one pours on it.

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ABaker Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:07 PM
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15. Let's not stoop to freepers' level. We're better than that. n/t
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:03 PM
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16. It's not stooping
When someone who brought more evil than good to the world takes his dirt nap, it is cause to rejoice. There is NO EQUIVOCATION between how asstard freepers behave versus the rest of us. They celebrate the passing of good people who don't traffic in human misery and greed - we don't. Isn't that obvious?

That kind of equivocation is what keeps us acting like pansies when we need to be tough. I am not ready to make nice, like Natalie says.
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:59 AM
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22. Reputations warts and all We have a right to know (Helen Thomas)
We have a right to know what our history is, warts and all.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/45766_helen7.shtml
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:07 PM
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17. Rest In Something, Nofziger
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:18 PM
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19. CASPAR/ LYNN.........
They come in 3's...so who is next....maybe Ollie North?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 01:07 PM
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23. One more for the Bushevik wing in hell
That is going to be one huge complex (if it isn't already) down there in the 12th Circle.

Cheney's got a suite of rooms waiting for him and his.

BushJesus: Known to the rest of mankind as Satan.
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