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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:43 PM
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Moussaoui Says He Was to Hijack 5th Plane (on 9/11)
By MATTHEW BARAKAT, Associated Press Writer
1 minute ago

ALEXANDRIA, Va. - Al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui testified Monday that he and would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid were supposed to hijack a fifth airplane on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House.

Moussaoui's testimony on his own behalf stunned the courtroom. His account was in stark contrast to his previous statements in which he said the White House attack was to come later if the United States refused to release a radical Egyptian sheik imprisoned on earlier terrorist convictions.

On Dec. 22, 2001, Reid was subdued by passengers when he attempted to detonate a bomb in his shoe aboard American Airlines Flight 63 from Paris to Miami. There were 197 people on board. The plane was diverted to Boston, where it landed safely.

Moussaoui told the court he knew the World Trade Center attack was coming and that he lied to investigators when arrested in August 2001 because he wanted it to happen.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060327/ap_on_re_us/moussaoui
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Definitely going for that insanity ruling...
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:44 PM
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1. So now he is making the governments case?
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 01:44 PM by K-W
Odd.
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highnooner Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:49 PM
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3. He wants to see 70 virgins in heaven....
If he gets the death penalty, he'll die believing that. This is clearly a case where one should die in prison of natural causes. He should die knowing that he is going to hell instead.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 02:03 PM
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5. i agree.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 02:12 PM
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11. I don't believe that BS for a second -
if you read about the actual hijackers some of them enjoyed liaisons with plenty of women right here on earth.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:56 AM
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38. Are you suggesting...
...that religiously insane people can't be hypocrites? Have you seen the scary monkey-looking man who says "nukular" on the teevee?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:16 PM
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44. 72 virgins is a red herring.
I've never heard any muslim ever mention it. This is a lascivious RW talking point just like they're obsessed about homosexuals or equating political correctness with bestiality.

People motivated by sex get married to someone they're attracted to, have affairs or see call-girls. Suicide bombers are generally politically motivated.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 03:04 PM
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15. You think Bush is threatening his family?
Why woul he change his story now?
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:04 PM
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30. They cut him a deal. Testimony and waive the death penalty.
He and/or his family was probably threatened. Then they told him that if he says what they want him to, they'll leave his family alone and waive the DP.
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:48 PM
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2. Or the death penalty....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:51 PM
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 02:04 PM
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6. If they're coaching the witnesses
is it possible someone's coaching him?
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 02:04 PM
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7. Wouldn't it have been cheaper and easier to hire a good lawyer
for the Egyptian sheik? These two bunglers were suppose to hijack a fifth plane and fly it into the White House? How? Last I heard, neither of these barely - if at all - knew how to fly a plane.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 02:42 PM
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14. The shoe bomber couldn't set his shoe on fire
Flying a plane seems doubtful indeed.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 08:37 PM
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32. He didn't even make it here for 9/11/2001
He was arrested in December 2001. Something smells fishy here.
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 02:07 PM
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8. i do not see why we would want to kill this guy until Al Quada was
exterminated; it seems to me you would want to keep him around to see if you can get any more information about AQ, even if the possibility owas remote.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 02:10 PM
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10. Exactly.
Something's very wrong about all this.
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:07 PM
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19. My thoughts exactly
There's always a chance that he could be useful in some way
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 02:08 PM
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9. If he's involved then he's culpable
but what about the CIA and FBI management who stymied the investigation into Moussaoui and his laptop?

That seems to be a much more serious issue.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 02:28 PM
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12. How did Bush put him up to this?
Is he a willing victim or some sort of robot?
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 02:38 PM
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13. most likely
promised him no death penalty. It is all so obvious it it ridiculous.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 03:06 PM
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16. Just by himself?
Yeah... Uh... the guys a fucking nutjob.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 03:41 PM
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17. HEY!!
why hasn't this thread been sent to the "dungeon"?


:banghead:

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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 03:53 PM
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18. Well, it's 2006 now..
they managed to get the info out of him in a timely fashion. Well done. Only nearly five years since he was arrested.

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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:24 PM
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20. They really know how to beat us at our game. He will not become
the poster child of captured terrorists. He doesn't give a damn if he dies, in fact, he would rather have that way rather than be a constant reminder of Bushbot war on terror. Afterall, once he is executed, how many times will you hear his name? About as many times as you hear Timoty McVeigh.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:27 PM
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21. Why did Ashcroft's Justice Dept. discourage applications for FISA
warrants? We could have seen M's computer and stopped the plot before 9/11.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:38 PM
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22. Either he seeks martydom or another basis for appeal,....
,...i.e. incompetent representation.

:wtf: Did he testify on his own behalf,...in a terrorism case,...involved with 9/11? :shrug:

That's some crazy shit there!!!
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pschoeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:02 PM
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23. How would Richard Reid help him if he was in Amesterdam washing dishes?
This seems to me an attempt to "go along" with the the US authorities in the most outlandish way he can think of. I think adding Richard Reid to his plot makes it completely proposturous.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:08 PM
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24. It's pretty obvious he is nuts
It could be true that he was supposed to do this. I bet the others, particularly Atta, figured out he was a nut too and couldn't be relied on to do anything.
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:11 PM
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25. 5th plane
Can't we(the Judge) find out who was he working for? who gave him orders and the plan?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:17 PM
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26. This case is getting more bizzare.
This guy and the shoe bomber seem to be to dumb to fly a plane. Maybe 4 years in capitivity has put him over the edge of any kind of sanity? Maybe he doesn't want to spend the rest of his life in a little cell? Even if he gets the DP won't he be living for at least another 10 years unless he can circumvent any appeals?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:05 AM
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39. I'm not so sure about that.
This guy and the shoe bomber seem to be to dumb to fly a plane.

I would like to call your attention to a member (admittedly not a very good one) of the Texas Air National Guard:

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:34 PM
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27. He wants to be put to death so he become a martyr...
that is why it is imperative that he gets life in prison withought parole...maybe even solitary confinement.


I think it would be a huge mistake to put him to death....
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:37 PM
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28. 5th plane? please! sounds like bullshit to me.
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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 08:54 PM
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33. Yup, he's playing n/t
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 06:51 PM
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29. this is like people who give false confessions to serial killings
he's nuts.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:18 PM
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31. I still want to know

what the definite target of the 4th plane was, the one that crashed in southwestern Pennsylvania. That hasn't been settled, has it?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:07 PM
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34. Moussaoui is insane, plain and simple....
I'll bet he'll cop to kidnapping the Lindbergh baby if the court frames the question right.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:51 PM
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35. Or so he thought....this is the only reason he's getting a trial at all is
to give the silly 19 or 20 hijacker theory credence. He was probably told by government operatives that was his mission and believed it. It's no wonder the FBI didn't want this info to go anywhere before their 9-11 BIG EVENT came off.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:06 AM
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36. Boston Globe: Victims' kin skeptical of latest testimony
Victims' kin skeptical of latest testimony

March 28, 2006

Relatives of several 9/11 victims who watched Zacarias Moussaoui's trial yesterday
via a closed-circuit feed at the federal courthouse in Boston were skeptical
of the Al Qaeda member's assertion that he was supposed to team up with shoe bomber
Richard Reid on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly a plane into the White House.

"He has taken pride in toying with American minds," said Christie Coombs of Abington,
whose husband, Jeff, was killed on American Airlines Flight 11.
<snip>

Full article: http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/03/28/victims_kin_skeptical_of_latest_testimony
(Boston Globe - free registration may be required)
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:37 AM
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37. Moussaoui is an al CIAda wannabe
who is making it up has he goes along.

Too bad he's trying to take Reid down with him. I'm sure Reid's defense team must be thrilled.

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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:08 AM
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41. Yes, seems like he's the patsy.
He's definitely played the trump card for the administration.

Any LIHOP/MIHOP allegations appear to be neutralized (as far as the MSM goes. Obviously probably only DUers will notice the detail about the SEVENTY denied requests by an FBI field agent to search Moussaoui's laptop).
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:04 AM
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40. Moussaoui was still learning to fly
when he was arrested in Aug 2001..

How likely is that he would've been ready in time for the Sept 11th attacks..?
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:09 AM
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42. HE WAS WEARING A STUN BELT
< http://www.total911.info/2006/03/msnbc-video-moussaoui-wore-stun-belt.html >



If you're looking for a reason why Zacarias Moussaoui suddenly testified today to a version of the 9/11 plotline that sounds more like the Official story than even the official Whitewash Commission report, this video may have the answer.

In it, NBC news reporter Pete Williams lets slip that Moussaoui is wearing a "Stun belt" underneath his clothing controlled by US Marshals. MSNBC host Dan Abrams gets some more details on the stun belt.

A taste of the exchange:
WILLIAMS: The old outbursts were gone... He was very docile today... We believe that he's wearing one of those stun belts, and it may be that he was very worried about doing anything that would cause those Marshals to press the button....

ABRAMS: A stun belt? They literally have sOmething around his waist? That they can push a button and?

WILLIAMS: Well...


Only in 21st-century Amerika!

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Bushies gotta go Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:13 AM
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43. IF this is true....
...where are the rest of his "crew"? The other planes were supposed to have, what, four or five subjects on each plane. And he and the shoe bomber were going to take one of the most important targets by themselves?

Smells like BS to me. Two weeks ago, the prosecutions case was near collapse. Now all of a sudden he makes their case for them?? It not only smells, it STINKS.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 10:53 PM
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45. It's pretty obvious this guy WANTS to be executed.
It's martyrdom he wants. Not to be locked up for the rest of his life.

Executing him would be just insane. Let's make him miserable for a few more decades here on earth before he goes off to hell.
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