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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 10:29 AM
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Deaths fall for U.S., rise for Iraqis

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2006-03-19-deaths-shift_x.htm

Deaths fall for U.S., rise for Iraqis

BAGHDAD — U.S. military deaths during the past month have dropped to an average of about one a day, approaching the lowest level since the insurgency began two years ago, according to a USA TODAY analysis of U.S. military data.

The decline in U.S. deaths comes as Iraqi casualties are the highest since the U.S. military began tracking them in 2004.

In the past month, nearly five times as many Iraqi forces and civilians were killed as troops in the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq, U.S. military data show.

The shift from spring 2004, when U.S. and Iraqi casualty rates were comparable, reflects an insurgency that increasingly targets Iraqis and the growing presence of Iraqi forces on the front lines.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 10:34 AM
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1. One a day, no big deal! They knew what they signed up for, to be lied
to illegal war of aggression against a nation that hadn't been doing anything to anyone, all without enough ammo and body armor etc.

Americans LIKE dying one a day for bush-gawd!

It's only one a day! No big deal!

Yes this sure as fuck is :sarcasm:

Now if only the MFing freepers would die one a day...
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 02:10 PM
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9. Hey Lynn have you been reading
the it's more dangerous in America than Iraq LTTE?

Since 2004 it's 2-3 KIA and 17WIA daily. But, then those with the exception of that unlucky LTCol most of those chaps are poor, so they don't "really" count.

Please see my post here (if you care too, that is...)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=702758&mesg_id=706655
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 03:15 PM
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12. Yep and it's very shocking ANY Americans could be that dumb w math.
Edited on Mon Mar-20-06 03:16 PM by LynnTheDem
The idiots who denigrate our soldiers' deaths by comparing US deaths in Iraq to the number of deaths in California...coz "California is roughly the SAME SIZE GEOGRAPHICALLY as Iraq...

:wow:

Please; most kids by grade 5 can figure out how stupid that comparison is!

And of course, as anyone NOT a rightwingnut & with more than a grade 5 level education can easily see, when you compare the number of Americans in Iraq and the number killed, to the SAME NUMBER of Americans elsewhere & the numbers killed there, (or a per-capita adjustment comparing US in Iraq to US in California) Iraq is FAR FAR FAR more deadly.

But what I say is HEY MFing freeps! It's "SAFER IN IRAQ"...so I REALLY REALLY want you to go there! And "be safe"! Motherfuckers.

Rightwingnuts; stupidest MFers ever.

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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 10:38 AM
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2. One US citizen dying every day in Iraq. Smells like VICTORY!
if you're a sick effin bushbot
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 10:39 AM
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3. It's called "civil war"
There's no reason for them to kill us; they can't get rid of us while there's so much infighting, and we're basically in a defensive posture anyway. Their real enemies are each other, and they know it.

Of course, since so many Americans only give a damn about Americans, it'll be hailed as proof that we've got a handle on the situation. Then again, when all hell breaks loose it's going to make some news, and when some group or groups prevail, they're going to turn on us with a vengeance.

All this will take time, though, so people will be lulled into a false security.
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 10:51 AM
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5. which is exactly why
CIA operatives did their best to incite civil war in Iraq. The mosque bombing, etc.

That's my theory, anyway...To take attention away from Americans just in time for the mid-term elections. Then they can say "See, there have been less American deaths and Iraqis are taking control of the situation."
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 03:44 PM
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15. The Iraqis have our soldiers pinned down in garrison duty, and are now
free to sort out their affairs for themselves, except for the occasional rogue operations (by U.S. mercenaries and Commander Kurtz-types) and media ops like "Swarm of Lies."
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 03:46 PM
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16. Exact same thing happened during Nixon's Vietnamization policy:
U.S. combat casualties declined dramatically, along with U.S. troop levels in-country, and Asian casualties (mainly from U.S. airstrikes) increased dramatically.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 10:39 AM
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4. American Casualties drop every spring
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 01:07 PM
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8. Statistics are wonderful things. Lies, damned lies and statistics
According to Iraq Coalition Casualty http://icasualties.org/oif/ So far this March ties for the lowest death/per/day of military, 1.1, and lowest total number reported at 22. This is good so far. However, I know of a way to drop it down even further. Yes, bring the troops home now. Some may die while leaving or shortly after, but I bet none will die later there.

Next, let's look at the number of Iraqis killed this month, by sex and age. Let's also look at the percentage of Iraqis that have electricity and sewage compared to before the invasion. How about let's go take a look at Fallujah also. But then, I am concentrating on only the bad things. Less coalition soldiers have died this month. That is good. So are the soccer balls they have given to some Iraqi kids whose schools got bombed. Now, I am off to put another can of tuna under my bed to prepare for a disaster.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 12:04 PM
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6. For the most part. our troops have bunkered down and air raids
are the mode of operation.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 12:05 PM
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7. "Iraqi casualties are the highest since the U.S. military began tracking"
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 02:12 PM
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10. Oh, the see saw effect.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 02:13 PM
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11. Just winning hearts and minds day by day! nt
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 03:25 PM
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13. I think there is a cause and effect relationship here
U.S. forces don't seem to be getting into the thick of things as much as before (Operation Swarmer notwithstanding). Maybe that is leading to more Iraqi deaths. Or maybe the Iraqi civil war is mostly just ignoring the U.S. presence for now.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 03:33 PM
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14. Must be true - The USA wouldn't lie to us about anything . . right?????
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