MND-B SOLDIER KILLED BY MORTAR ATTACK (#2314)

[leftchick]

BAGHDAD – A Multi-National Division – Baghdad Soldier was killed southwest of Baghdad at approximately 6:30 p.m. March 15 by indirect fire.

The name of the Soldier is being withheld pending notification of next of kin.

This incident is under investigation.


http://www.centcom.mil/sites/uscentcom1/Lists/Casualty%20Reports%201/DispForm.aspx?ID=1178&Source=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecentcom%2Emil%2Fsites%2Fuscentcom1%2FLists%2FCasualty%2520Reports%25201%2FCurrent%2520Reports%2Easpx

[TomInTib]

1. "indirect fire"?

I spent a lot of time in combat, saw a lot of guys shot. Every one of them was hit "directly".

What the heck is "indirect fire"?

Someone help me, here.

[opihimoimoi]

2. Are they refering to those bullets that bounced off a wall?

Or, friendly fire?

[Renew Deal]

4. This is a strange story.

I was wondering the same thing.

[0007]

3. Indirect fire is when the artillery is lobbing shelling over

the infantry, perhaps twenty miles away. Like with 155mm. As an example.

When you shoot at something you see that is direct. Anything that you shoot at and don't see is called indirect.

[0007]

5. Room for one more, 'eh?

Grass Bush

Pile the bodies high in Austerlitz and Waterloo Iraq
Shovel them under and let me work--
I am the grass; bush; I cover all.

And pile them high in Gettyburg Baghdad
And pile them high in Ypres and Vedum Mossoul and Al Fallaujah

Two years, ten years, and passengers ask the conductor:
What place is this?

I am the grass bush.
Let me work.

Carl Sandburg


Support the war - Donate a Son a daughter
The GOP working for a better America
God Bless America

[Renew Deal]

6. Is that "friendly fire"

Or is it stray bullets?

[0007]

7. As a rule no. But you can hit your own if you don't know where there

at. That is the job of the observation point.

[TomInTib]

8. Thanks. All we had was "direct". n/t

[0007]

10. We did indirect firing all the time. I remember during training in

the state of Washington we wiped out a big apple orchard near Yakima. We were twenty six miles away.

[TomInTib]

11. lol! I love that kind of stuff. I wish we had the safety of distance.

I was River Patrol and long-range recon.

Up close and personal kind of crap.

[0007]

15. When the infantry line was broken we were face to face with

the enemy, it wasn't all roses.

[TomInTib]

16. Oh, 0007, I certainly did not intend to imply that...

Let's face it. No matter what one's role, anyone who has been on either end of a weapon in combat shares the same shield.

Where (when) were you fighting?

[0007]

18. 1951 Korea

[TomInTib]

20. Now THAT was war...

Man, I can only imagine.

I have a friend that made it thru the horror that was Chosin.

My river and recon experiences were bad enough, but the stuff he has told me chills me to the bone.

Thanks for the reply, I was really worried I had unintentionally offended you.

Tom

[tabasco]

17. Almost all artillery fire and all mortar fire is indirect fire.

It is called indirect because it doesn't shoot straight at the enemy.

Some arty pieces can lower the gun to fire like a tank, straight at the target. That is "direct" fire.

Mortars are all high angle trajectory so all mortar fire is indirect fire.

A 11B20 common task is "Call For And Adjust Indirect Fire."

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. Welcome to the Desert of the Real

...

[seemslikeadream]

12. HOW MANY MORE GEORGIE HOW MANY MORE?

Rich Man's War Lyrics


Jimmy joined the army ‘cause he had no place to go
There ain’t nobody hirin’
‘round here since all the jobs went
down to Mexico
Reckoned that he’d learn himself a trade maybe see the world
Move to the city someday and marry a black haired girl
Somebody somewhere had another plan
Now he’s got a rifle in his hand
Rollin’ into Baghdad wonderin’ how he got this far
Just another poor boy off to fight a rich man’s war

Bobby had an eagle and a flag tattooed on his arm
Red white and blue to the bone when he landed in Kandahar
Left behind a pretty young wife and a baby girl
A stack of overdue bills and went off to save the world
Been a year now and he’s still there
Chasin’ ghosts in the thin dry air
Meanwhile back at home the finance company took his car
Just another poor boy off to fight a rich man’s war

When will we ever learn
When will we ever see
We stand up and take our turn
And keep tellin’ ourselves we’re free

Ali was the second son of a second son
Grew up in Gaza throwing bottles and rocks when the tanks would come
Ain’t nothin’ else to do around here just a game children play
Somethin’ ‘bout livin’ in fear all your life makes you hard that way

He answered when he got the call
Wrapped himself in death and praised Allah
A fat man in a new Mercedes drove him to the door
Just another poor boy off to fight a rich man’s war

Steve Earle

[deadparrot]

13. RIP.

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[saigon68]

14. "BRING EM ON" shouted the AWOL CHIMPANZEE

[tabasco]

19. WTF is "Multi-National Division Baghdad"?

Our soldiers are now assigned to a "Multi-National Division?"

Is this one of Rummy's great ideas?