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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:01 PM
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Religious Charities Get More Federal Money
Religious Charities Get More Federal Money
More Federal Money Going to Religious Charities, White House Says

By JENNIFER LOVEN

WASHINGTON Mar 9, 2006 (AP)— The Bush administration says it is making steady progress in steering more federal taxpayer dollars to religious charities.

In the budget year that ended Sept. 30, religious charities received $2.15 billion in federal grants to administer a range of social service programs for the needy. That represented 10.9 percent of the total grants from the seven federal agencies such charities were eligible to apply to in fiscal 2005, according to a White House report obtained by The Associated Press.

The Housing and Urban Development Department awarded the highest percentage of its competitive, discretionary funding to religious charities 24 percent while the Health and Human Services Department had the lowest at 7.4 percent.

The 2005 amount is 7 percent higher than the year before, when $2 billion or 10.3 percent of the total was awarded to religious charities, the report said.
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1703640&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:05 PM
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1. I guess this is so they can buy more radio stations...this is a disgrace
this money is needed for so many other projects...I bet most of it goes to these mega churches...
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:05 PM
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2. Your tax dollars at work
to build more looney right wing CULTS
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:07 PM
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3. So, what are these charities DOING with this $$?
I guess I don't have a problem with the Feds reimburseing any group for feeding the hungry, clothing the poor, or providing shelter, but I haven't heard anything about what they are really doing.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:09 PM
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5. The * cabal is not monitoring the money or these churches...
no auditing...just giving away tax payer money.

Is there a way for states to stop the spending of our tax dollars on crap like this?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:14 PM
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8. States? Probably not, but the IRS should be!
THAT would be the place to catch any misuse, I would think. Even charities have to file tax returns, and it's the IRS that is threatening to yank the tax exempt status on some of the churches for political involvement.

I have no way of knowing if the IRS is actually doing it's job though.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:19 PM
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9. The IRS is another organization that the Repugs are using for
their own purposes...

Going after liberal churches that make political statements..

In Texas going after non-profit political organizations...

When this is all said and done....all Government organizations will have to be scrubbed and returned to their original but better state

Just another abuse of power....
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:43 PM
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13. I agree that if they are providing services, they should get reimbursed
Yet, then again, charity is supposed to be from the heart, not given with a promise of reimbursment.

I don't have a problem with the government using religious-based charities, as long as they have good contracts with those agencies. I work as a foster care worker-every contract we have for a child's care by any private agency specifies, for example, that the agency is not to interfere with a teen's use of birth control. Yet some of those very same agencies provide good foster parents and loving homes, and our state agency alone would not be able to meet the needs of the community.

I do have a bias in favor of established charities, such as Catholic Social Services, the Salvation Army, Church World Service and various denominational outreaches (the UCC's One Great Hour Of Sharing comes to mind). I am less trusting of new and independent mega-churches and their track record, or lack thereof. I'm not saying they shouldn't participate, I'm just saying that the feds should watch them a little more closely than an established charity, to make sure the money is going where it's supposed to go and not into building a new wing on to the church (unless that new wing is a homeless shelter-even then, the funding for the building part should be a loan, as a church can change their minds once they realize homeless people are sometimes dirty and steal because they are hungry and have nothing).

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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:08 PM
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4. I want an audit of this program...
we need to know where the money is really going. I suspect that many a RW politician has wound up with "faith based money" in his pocket.
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 02:48 PM
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14. An audit is so sorely needed!
You know that much of our $ is being spent on supporting rethug principles from the pulpit, if not outright going to rethug candidates' slush funds.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:09 PM
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6. I just can't see this as being a good thing. It seems like there
would be too much temptation for the government to reward those churches that are most sympathetic to them, not to mention for the church to preach government doctrine in order to get more grants. The separation between church and state is there for the protection of both.

BTW, I don't mean this to be criticism of any church or religious organization that provides humanitarian services.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:11 PM
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7. "for the needy" with no audit trail
discretionary funding for discretionary spending.

It makes me sick.

Religious organizations should not be tax exempt and should not be receiving federal tax dollars, or rather, just like we can opt in a couple of bucks for elections, we should be able to opt in a couple of bucks for faith based stuff and that pool should be what is used for faith based orgs.

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:22 PM
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10. Thought this would be about the Homeland Security's new dept.
That was linked here yesterday. More money to create a dept. within Homeland Security to 'identify and remove barriers' that "faith based organizations" encounter while doing business with Homeland Security, or some other bullshit. I'm not sure HOW the mega churches would qualify to provide services for the Homeland Sec. Dept., exactly, but the TAXPAYERs are going to pay anyway.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:47 PM
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11. I know many Republican's that are mad as hell
about all these faith based initiatives...They know these TV evangelists are shysters, don't send them any money and are mad that ** is giving their tax money to them...I rub it in every chance I get....
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 01:48 PM
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12. If you can't trust religious leaders with your children, you know damn
well you can't trust them with your money.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 07:27 PM
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15. Republican Party should be BANNED from existence
IN YOUR FACE... ITs DISGUSTING!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:02 PM
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16. Can somebody explain to me again just why my tax money is
being siphoned directly from my pockets into the coffers of churches, some of whom certainly are working behind the scenes to deprive me of my civil rights and perhaps hy life????
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 03:16 AM
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17. Kick!
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 03:23 AM
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18. Hallichristian..... nt
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