Hollywood sex scenes attract lawmakers' attention (Reuters/H.R.)

[Up2Late]

(And yet, I can't remember the last time I saw so many ads for Ultra-Violent films. Mike Pence, (R-Indiana), needs to get back to working on some REAL issues, this Censorship crap really pisses me off.)

Hollywood sex scenes attract lawmakers' attention

Wed Mar 8, 2006 11:17 PM ET

By Brooks Boliek

WASHINGTON (Hollywood Reporter) - The U.S. House of Representatives has approved child-safety legislation that includes a provision bringing some legitimate film and TV productions under the same federal-reporting requirements as X-rated films.

Under a provision inserted in the Children's Safety and Violent Crime Reduction Act, the legislation would require "any book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape or other matter" that contains a simulated sex scene to come under the same government-filing requirements that adult films have to meet.

Currently, any filmed sexual activity requires an affidavit that lists the names and ages of the actors who engage in the act. The film is required to have a video label that claims compliance with the law and lists where the custodian of the records can be found. The record-keeping requirement is known as Section 2257, for its citation in federal law. Violators could spend five years in jail.

Under the provision authored by Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., the definition of sexual activity is expanded to include simulated sex acts like those that appear in many movies and TV shows. While the overall bill is designed to give law enforcement officials more power to prosecute violent sexual predators and sets up a comprehensive national sex-offender registration system, it includes the language targeting motion pictures, TV shows and other material.

Last year, the House approved a similar measure, but it languished in the Senate as lawmakers could not decide how to proceed on hate-crimes language that also was attached to the legislation. The new legislation left the hate-crimes language out of the bill in the hopes that it would have an easier time in the Senate.

(more at link below)

<http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=11472437&src=rss/domesticNews>

[Up2Late]

1. Here's the link to the "Hollywood Reporter" but they only give you one...

...paragraph for free. Typical of a very expensive magazine: <http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/film/brief_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002155557>

March 09, 2006

Pence amendment could group Hollywood, adult films

WASHINGTON -- For the second time in the 109th Congress, the U.S. House of Representatives has approved child-safety legislation that includes a provision that would bring some legitimate film and TV productions under the same federal-reporting requirements as X-rated films. Under a provision inserted in the Children's Safety and Violent Crime Reduction Act, the legislation would require "any book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape or other matter" that contains a simulated sex scene to come under the same government-filing requirements that adult films have to meet. Currently, any filmed sexual activity requires an affidavit that lists the names and ages of the actors who engage in the act. The film is required to have a video label that claims compliance with the law and lists where the custodian of the records can be found. The record-keeping requirement is known as Section 2257, for its citation in federal law. Violators could spend five years in jail. (Brooks Boliek) FULL STORY

[MindPilot]

17. What about animation or CGI?

If there is no performer, how would they keep records on that? This kind of stuff is just too stupid for words.

[northzax]

38. that would be irrelevant

the reason for section 2257, as I understand it, is to prove that the actors engaged in the filmed activity are of legal age in the state where the production was made (and where the company is based) CG actors are obviously not going to need to worry about it.

[The Straight Story]

2. They attract mine too, any porn in HDTV format yet?

I will investigate all the sex scenes I can and report back to congress with my side kick 'woody'.

As far as simulated sex acts, that rethug knows all about them because his wife has faked it for years :)

[MindPilot]

21. Yes, the are a few xxx releases in HiDef

er...umm...so I'm told. :D

[Azathoth]

3. Oh for god sake

Section 2257 is what the Lawyers for Jesus™ in the Chimp administration have been using in their jihad to drive porn producers out of business. I guess they figure it works so well, they might as well use it to go after the movie studios as well. We can't catch Osama, but we sure can crack down on them Hollywood harlots. :eyes:

[Behind the Aegis]

4. Have to agree with my mom here...

I'd rather see sex (natural), as opposed to unmitigated violence (reactionary and mostly unnatural). I find it sad that people are more concerned about sexual situations, than violence.

[readmoreoften]

5. Oh for the love of dog

We're going to need 2257 forms now! Just grand.

I forget what the 2257 law entails. I'm pretty sure it's two IDs, one picture ID, a signed release form, all on file WITH THE SAME CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS. PERMANENTLY! We're indie filmmakers. We don't want to schlep around pounds of files for the rest of our lives.

Hey, wanna be in my movie. You have to keep your fucking passport on file. That's what I need. More pre-production!

[truthisfreedom]

6. sex??? we still have sex in this country??? i thought south dakota took

care of that?

[saigon68]

7. Its a good thing

There are NO SENIORS in amerika who need prescriptions for their pain

Or HUNGRY HOMELESS people in amerika to be fed

So this ass-wipe clown

Can legislate his brand of morality

</sarcasm>

[regnaD kciN]

8. Hey, Mikey...!

My indie film has a simulated sex scene as well. Want to come after me, too? :eyes:

[file83]

9. The American Taliban - censoring TV so you don't have to!

[Blue Gardener]

10. No more music videos then

Lots of "simulated" sex in those. Those darn kids and their unholy music! It must be stopped! :sarcasm:

[HysteryDiagnosis]

11. Sex with horses......... or rather sex between

consenting adult horses to carry xxx rating.

Breeders to require special license and view limiting goggles to block out the "good parts".

Religious right to condemn horse breeders and their evil ways.

Farms that breed/raise horses to be off limits to persons under 18.

Photographs of sperm uniting with an egg to be stripped from biology books/films.

Pig breeders will be considered just that, pigs.

Dogs caught doing the unnatural act of procreation in public will be jailed and the persons viewing them severely reprimanded.

Insects caught in the act will be sprayed until dead.

All other forms of sex will be severely scrutinized as will the mere thinking about sex, all persons should remain thoughtless until further notice.





Sex between dissimilar species will be severely punished.



And for the really brave ------> http://www.whatsthatbug.com/love_among_bugs_2.html

[A Simple Game]

13. I went to the "love among bugs" link, and let me say this.

You are a very sick person. You need help.

After viewing them for the fifth time and blowing up the pictures and using a magnifying glass I can say that this is pornography! Shame on you!

When the Republicans get done with you, you will be sick of looking at lovemaking bugs.

PS. Know anymore good sites, you know, like that bug one but with people?

Edit: for stupidity

[pinniped]

35. You're a bugophile.

Pretty funny link.



Hi Monica,
Your photo speaks for itself. We especially like the voyeur. Your photo could compromise our recent good reputation with Elementary Schools as well as religious fanatics.

A lovebug train.

[Up2Late]

36. Great link, Thanks!

I love the Preying Mantis shots, hard to see the third Mantis in most of those shots though. I'd love to have seen one of those "eat him after the act..." shots too.

[acmavm]

12. Funny, the republicans always seemed to me to like a little kinky sex

on the side. Check this out if you haven't already seen it:

SCANDAL GIRLS!!!
http://www.comedyontap.com/features/congress.html

[no_hypocrisy]

14. That legislation would take "Parenthood" off TBS as Mary S. only turns

and lowers her upper torso towards Steve Martin as they're driving on the highway. In other words, TBS would sooner remove the movie from broadcast rather than to subject itself to liability if a child is raped or molested because the predator claims he saw a simulated sex act in the movie. This is an extreme conclusion of the legislation, but it starts out with a "noble" purpose but it can expand to chilling free expression.

[BattyDem]

15. So simulated sex on television could be criminal?

What about simulated murder, simulated rape, simulated robbery, simulated war, simulated terrorism, etc? :eyes:

How does this protect children from violent sexual predators? :shrug: Having children pose for any kind of sexual photo is already illegal. This law serves no purpose. Televison and motion picture actors are usually members of a union like SAG or AFTRA. They're not in the business of exploiting children.

Would a teen make-out session be considered to be simulated sexual activity? Or would there have to be some sort of implied penetration or oral activity? If they remain fully clothed, is it still simulated sex? This kind of regulation couldn't possibly work without eliminating all simulated sexual activity.


You know ... media companies give lots of money to the GOP, but if they have to spend a lot of time, energy and money to verify an actor's age every time they film a simulated love scene, they're going to be pretty pissed off. I think the GOP is going to start feeling some pressure from these companies. JMHO

[Up2Late]

22. I hope you right about the coming backlash, this law IS very stupid.

I hope this REALLY mobilizes Hollywood.:pals:

BTW, I'm a struggling Film/Video Editor.

[MindPilot]

16. They might as well just register everybody as a sex offender at birth

That baby just came out of that vagina and started sucking on those titties! It's into diapers and scat. What a PERV!

[mainer]

18. I heard that Utah has the highest rate of x-rated video rentals

They're hurting their own constituency!

[Retrograde]

19. well, I'm glad

that all of the other pressing problems in the world have been taken care of. I've been a little under the weather recently, so I must have misses how Congress balanced the budget, rolled back the Bush administration "reforms", solved the unemployment problem, got the Gulf Coast back on its feet, negotiated a fair settlement to the mess in Iraq, etc., etc., and generally restored the standing of the US on the international scene.

/sarcasm, as if it's needed

[Felix Mala]

20. Pence must have inadvertantly rented The Brown Bunny for his kids.

[Up2Late]

25. Or "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" (1988) Remember that Jessica Rabbit?

She was very naughty. And wasn't that movie "Implied cartoon bestiality?" That must be stopped too. :eyes: :sarcasm:

Hell, Kathleen Turner's voice is practically a "simulated sex act."

[NashVegas]

23. Books?

There goes Scooter Libby's bear cage.

[truebrit71]

24. So glad we've solved homelessness, health care and poverty...

...I mean, that MUST be the reason why this fucking clown has all this spare time to dream up asinine bills like this one...'cos all of the big issues have been dealt with, right?

Mucking Foron.... :grr:

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

26. Representative Squeezy McFeelpants will be all over this one. n/t

[MadMaddie]

27. Here is an idea....

I know that it is radical, and unnatural...
I know that it will cause a great deal of discomfort for many people especially neocons...
And I know that it may require a lot of dedication and time...

Hey You NeoCon Facist Bastard Pigs that insist on having kids so you can over populate the world with your nutty kids...

SPEND TIME WITH YOUR KIDS AND MONITOR WHAT THEY ARE WATCHING AT HOME AND AT THE THEATER!! MAYBE EVEN WATCH THE TIME THEY SPEND ON "MY SPACE' AND VIOLENT VIDIO GAMES, ITS CALLED BEING RESPONSIBLE PARENTS!!

TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN F%$#ING KIDS AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO IMPLEMENT MORE STUPID LAWS!!!


Okay, I am done ranting!! Sigh....
:rant:

[AnneD]

28. So.....

senseless violence is ok....but sex isn't.
Now I did object to the salacious nature of the reporting on President Clinton during the national evening news (graphic statements about a penis identification line up and oral sex)really chapped me because it was not news worthy and CERTAINLY not at 5pm when school age kids may be watching for current events homework.
This is a different matter. As parents, you can exercise control. You explain to your children what is and isn't allowed and (yes, I had my daughter cover her eyes on occasion if an unexpected scene happened-she got so use to it that she self censored many times). As parents, you have to teach your children to be godly in an ungodly world. They have to learn to navigate through our society while maintaining their beliefs.
My daughter knows about many things but does not act upon them. I let her see things under supervision with discussion when it was appropriate. To deny their curiosity is to have them go behind your back or worse yet, to be so naive as to be easily placed in a dangerous situation. It is the responsibility of parents TO PARENT their child. I know it take a village to raise a child but damn, is it too much to ask you to do YOUR part.
While it is not censorship to keep porn behind the counter, this proposal is.

[Atmashine]

29. The Bible

Excellent! Let that be the first book to be added. I'm tired of all this sex is evil crap.

Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father -- Genesis 19:34

[progressivebydesign]

30. But kids can see people blown up and shot on TV every 5 minutes.

This is what is so fucked up about America's puritanical ideas. It's okay for kids to see someone shot, beaten, blown up, but not.. naked or having sex. They can play games where they kill people... TV shows are ultra violent, but this prig is worried about SEX in movies??

[HuffleClaw]

31. The new legislation left the hate-crimes language out of the bill ??

so, basically they are MORE concerned about FUCKING than hate crimes?

[Up2Late]

34. Yup, moving to Toronto or Vancouver is sounding better all the time...

...and that "Global Warming" thing is helping make Canada more attractive too.

[wordpix2]

32. repukes have nothing better to do than censor movies while war rages,

military is in shambles and we're $8.2 TRILLION in debt. WTF?

[LiberalGuy000]

33. unbelievable

They want nothing other than "Leave It To Beaver" and "Father Knows Best" to be shown on TV.

This new law could force major studios to permanently move out of the U.S.

[dogfacedboy]

37. That's what the radical right wants.

They are waging a 'culture war', trying to systematically crush anyone or anything they don't like. They don't plan to give up, either. They believe it will take 50-75 years to get what they want, and have resigned themselves to that fact. They're in it for the long haul.

[Up2Late]

39. kick n/t

:kick: