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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:09 PM
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Company rethinks firing man for being with dying wife
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06061/663659.stm

A company that fired a 13-year employee as his wife lay dying of brain cancer offered him his job back Wednesday.

Bernard Chippie of Paint, Somerset County, a sales representative for a carpet-cleaning company, said he notified his employer on Feb. 13 that he would not be able to finish his weekly route because he had just learned his wife had between two days and a week to live.

"There was never a question of where I needed to be," Mr. Chippie said. He went to Kathleen Chippie's bedside at a hospice that day.

Three days later -- a Thursday -- his boss at Rug Doctor LP demanded that Mr. Chippie be at work the next day, Mr. Chippie said. Mr. Chippie said he couldn't and was fired, he said.

Kathleen Chippie died that Sunday at the age of 56.

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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:11 PM
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1. "It wasn't clear if Chippie would take back his old job."
I would tell them to KISS MY ASS.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:48 PM
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29. sent an email. god bless that family.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 06:14 PM
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30. Or Kiss my FU**ING ASS........n/t
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:50 AM
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50. They are in violation of FMLA
Family & Medical Leave Act requires them to give him 12 weeks of unpaid leave to care for a new baby, a sick immediate family member, or himself. I hope they both get sued and get fined for violating Federal Law.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:55 AM
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51. IF he's a covered employee
Edited on Fri Mar-03-06 12:08 PM by kgfnally
The company isn't required to follow the FMLA regs if they have fewer than x employees.

edited to add: coverage is not automatic; the employee must file an FMLA- a paperwork process filled out by a doctor- AND the employer must "accept" the certification.

edited again: He works for Rug Doctor? I doubt they're exempt from that law, but he still has to certify. Oh, and employees may only sue for actual damages, IIRC, and no suit may occur until that happens, per the law as written. IANAL, but I've dealt with this several times; my employer is ridiculous about FMLA, going out of its way to even violate the law by giving no opportunity for the employee to get a second and third opinion on the certification at the employer's expense. Again, that's part of FMLA as well, but they yank their certification number out of their attendance control system upon first denial, making it impossible for an employee to exercise their rights under the Act, which is ALSO a violation per the Act itself.

:grr: I have sooooo many stories. Go look at the APWU FMLA message board for more.

Employers. Hate. That. Law.

Employers loooooove playing games with it. True story: my father was lying at home dying of cancer and I submitted an FMLA claim so I could be there as he died. The employer (which was the USPS, if you'd like to know) declined the claim- despite the twelve pages of documentation going back nine years I gave them with the certification, signed by two doctors, two oncologists, and two specialists.

They only reversed their decision after his body was in the ground. Mother-fuckers. I mean that with all my heart.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:11 PM
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2. Can RugDoctor executives spell "B-O-Y-C-O-T-T"?
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Swede Atlanta Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:12 PM
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3. Boycott
Sounds like this company needs to be taught the lesson for failing to live up to their moral obligations to their employees...the company should be boycotted until they apologize to the employee and publicly confess their sins and refuse not to do it again and make some gesture of compensation.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:49 PM
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18. here's a web contact page
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:18 PM
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23. I sent them an email-- thanks for the link....
:grr:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:25 PM
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38. thanks
i sent them a "hearty" email as well :evilgrin:
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:12 PM
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4. Welcome to the REPUBLICAN America -- where being cold-hearted
and greedy are "cool", and being human is "downsized".


This is republican america. No place for humans, but a great thing for corporations, who have more rights than the people do.

:kick::kick::kick:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:29 PM
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7. And those Tramps can't get abortions anymore !!!!!!
</sarcasm>
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:49 PM
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17. LOL!! Can't forget those tramps and deviants!!
:rofl:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 04:04 AM
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46. The repukes sure love morality


In March 89, some woman named Catherine Campen gave an interview to Penthouse magazine, in which she claimed to have had an extramarital affair with the preacher. Between July 87 and January 88, they had met up on ten separate occasions. She mentioned beating him with a riding crop, but only after Swaggart convinced her to do it.


10 Nov 2002 Whoremonger, televangelist, and confessed pornography addict Jimmy Swaggart calls the Prophet Muhammed a "pervert" and a "sex deviant."
12 Sep 2004 "I get amazed. I can't look at it but about ten seconds, at these politicians dancing around this, dancing around this -- I'm trying to find a correct name for it -- this utter, absolute, asinine, idiotic stupidity of men marrying men. I've never seen a man in my life I wanted to marry. And I'm gonna be blunt and plain; if one ever looks at me like that, I'm gonna kill him and tell God he died. Case anybody doesn't know, God calls it an abomination. It's an abomination. It's an abomination! These ridiculous, utterly absurd district attorneys and judges and state congress. 'Well, we don't know.' They oughta -- they oughta -- they oughta have to marry a pig and live with them forever. I'm not knocking the poor homosexual, I'm not. They need salvation just like anybody else. I'm knocking our pitiful, pathetic lawmakers. And I thank God that President Bush has stated we need a Constitutional amendment that says that marriage is between a man and a woman. All right."
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spinnaker Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:21 PM
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5. let them know what you think by posting here ...
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:04 PM
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20. Done! Thanks for the link!! nt
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:28 PM
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6. Pathetic......
"But Chippie said he had 160 hours of accrued vacation from never taking a full week in 13 years."

http://www.newsnet5.com/family/7608999/detail.html
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:31 PM
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8. I called the corp offices and let them know I am boycotting.nt
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:35 PM
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9. I gave them an email
heartless bastards

CB
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:42 PM
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10. Just sent to my political address book:
Company rethinks firing man for being with dying wife
Thursday, March 02, 2006
AP
WINDBER, Pa. -- A company that fired a 13-year employee as his wife lay dying of brain cancer offered him his job back Wednesday.

Bernard Chippie of Paint, Somerset County, a sales representative for a carpet-cleaning company, said he notified his employer on Feb. 13 that he would not be able to finish his weekly route because he had just learned his wife had between two days and a week to live.
<snip>
Three days later -- a Thursday -- his boss at Rug Doctor LP demanded that Mr. Chippie be at work the next day. Mr. Chippie said he couldn't and was fired. Kathleen Chippie died that Sunday at the age of 56.
<snip>
The company said it had spoken to Mr. Chippie and offered him his job back with back pay and no break in seniority. It wasn't clear if Mr. Chippie, 56, would take back his old job.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/pp/06061/663659.stm
=============
Rug doctor is head quartered in Plano Texas. If you'd like to comment on who SHOULD be fired you can send them an email at: http://www.rugdoctor.com/contact.aspx

My personal opinion is that the company should be burned to the ground and the earth sown with salt so that nothing will ever grow there again.
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:45 PM
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11. A better idea!!!
Email them and say that you do not support firing the supervisor who dismissed Mr. Chippie. Instead, as a condition of employment, he must spend a month volunteering in a cancer hospice at full pay without loss of seniority.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:45 PM
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12. Seems to me his boss should be fired
and his name publicized in all the local media.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:04 PM
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13. Sent an email
and forwarding it to others.

When things like this happen corporations must start to realize that their actions have consequences.

Hopefully they will lose a lot of customers and what they think they are 'saving' will cost them where it hurts the most, their bottom line.
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musical_soul Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:10 PM
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14. Anybody who fires for that is scum
Enough said.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:33 PM
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15. GOP Scrooge and Marley
I hate these people.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:36 PM
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16. Can't he sue under the family leave act?
Punitive damages?
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:56 PM
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19. Not in a "right to work" state. People in r-t-w states have NO right to
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 03:57 PM by loudsue
work. The corporations only have the "right to work" people or the right to NOT "work people" (i.e., to put people to work).

"Right to work" laws need to be abolished across the board. There needs to be another labor uprising in the U.S., and, this time, it needs to spread across the globe.

Corporations are becoming waaaayyy to powerful, which is also why REPUBLICANS (and the DLC) are becoming waaay to powerful. The corporations buy their own republicans/DLCers, and then these same corporations "vote" them back into office with their crooked "election machines".

That is a racket, and it needs to be stopped dead in its tracks.

:kick::kick::kick:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:11 PM
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22. What is a "right to work" state? Are you referring to "At Will" employment
I am not familiar with the term "right to work" state or what it means...I do know that many states, including the State of CA have "At Will Employment Laws" which basically state that an employer can terminate your employment "at will" and you as an employee can quit "at will" without reason or grounds. This said, they cannot however, terminate you for any reason that is in violation of Federal Employment Laws (Race, gender, pregnancy etc.) and not in violation of the Family Leave Act.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:15 PM
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34. No it's different. "Right to work" is a union busting tactic.
Here's what the ALF/CIO says about it:

http://www.aflcio.org/issues/legislativealert/stateissues/work/


Here's their home page (I think):

http://www.nrtw.org/rtws.htm

Here's wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_work


IMHO...it's a horrible law enacted to make workers lose their bargaining power and rights.

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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:55 PM
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36. I assumed it was different but wasn't sure....but regardless, the FLMA
cannot be pre-empted or nullified just because of this "Right to Work" law from the state...

I think the bottom line is that this company and its local office screwed up in letting this man go and now they are dying to have him back...no hurt feelings...:eyes:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:30 PM
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39. maybe i am misunderstanding you but
the state of CA has unions and you cannot just be terminated without LOTS of due process. :shrug:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:39 PM
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26. Of course they can sue via the FLMA
Just because you're an anti-union state doesn't mean you don't have to follow Federal and State laws. THAT'S why they are begging him to come back -- because he could sue their asses off for this.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:08 PM
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21. Yes, I believe he can which is why RugDoctor is "re-thinking" its firing..
The Federal Family Leave Act has provisions in it which specifically allow for leave to care for a sick dependent (spouse, child etc) and while it may be unpaid, they can not be fired during that time. I noticed that the interview/statement from the Corporate Headquarters seems very defensive and they are making statements of how they "accomodated" Mr. Chippie and how he had used up his vacation and leave time, however I think that is their defensive posturing, because the reality is that under the Family Leave Act, he should have been able to take that time off without risk of job loss. Granted, I have no idea what amount of time he had been taking off before that and for how long, but my guess is from the final paragraph where Mr. Chippie states that he wasn't off for more than 3 days at a time etc. is an indicator that he was within his rights for leave and my guess is they are offering his job back so they aren't sued.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:22 PM
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24. An employee can take personal leave without
endangering his or her job. If I were this man, I would look into suing the company for violating that law.
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:36 PM
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25. There are conditions to eligibility
An employee must have worked for a company for at least one year in order to be eligible for Family Leave Act status/benefit(?). My spouse, an only child, briefly worked for Toyota but not long enough to be eligible to get the job protection this Act affords to take care of his elderly father. I've always thought that the Family Leave Act should be amended so that the "only child" would not be bound by the one-year-on-the-job rule.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:45 PM
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27. He had worked their 13 years, per the OP.
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 05:46 PM by crispini
These people are asses. He should sue them or something.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:47 PM
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28. I hope he sues/wins a nice chunk of change and the word gets out.
People need to understand that they don't have to put up with this crap, and employers need to understand the law better so they don't abuse people.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 06:49 PM
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31. Co. is playing CYA.
I don't know if there really is a "burn-in-fire" hell, but I know the asshole(s) who fired that poor man deserve to be in it. :mad: :nuke:


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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 06:54 PM
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32. My mom died of brain cancer
last summer. Luckily, my dad was retired, so he could be with her. Her condition would imporve and decline, so that he wanted to be with all the time, just in case. As it turned out, my dad, my siblings, and I were all with her at the end. But I know my dad would have missed all those days of work if necessary. It's what a spouse does.

Rug Doctor should be ashamed.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:31 PM
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41. Mine did too, albeit some 30 years ago.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 07:27 PM
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33. Reply from email sent
this afternoon:



I appreciate your concerns regarding the unfortunate situation involving Bernie Chippie and I hope the following information will help assure you the company’s actions in this circumstance do not reflect the Rug Doctor culture in any way.

Executive management at headquarters had no knowledge of Bernie’s unfortunate circumstances when the decision to terminate him was made. Had we known of the specifics of his situation I can assure you this never would have happened, and I regret that it did.

When I learned details of the situation, I personally contacted Bernie at his home, to offer condolences and to listen to his perspective on how the events unfolded. The telephone conversation was extremely cordial and led me to convene a special meeting that day with all the management involved with Bernie’s termination, as well as several other members of the executive management team.

The meeting was brief and the group unanimously concluded that the decision to terminate was regrettable, and we needed to reverse it.

All of these actions took place prior to the situation becoming public.

It goes without saying that if we could go back in time, this situation would have never happened. But since we cannot do that, we at Rug Doctor are doing all we know to do in order to make things right. To that end, we have offered Bernie his job back with full reinstatement of seniority and no loss of pay. We also offered him additional time off to tend to his personal affairs following his wife’s tragic death and are now awaiting his decision. We sincerely hope he accepts our offer.

Rug Doctor has always had, and continues to have, an open door policy, allowing employees to directly call the President and/or CEO if they believe they are being treated unfairly. Had Bernie and I had a prior conversation, I can assure you this situation would be different.

I hope that this one incident doesn’t improperly or unfairly change your view of the Rug Doctor organization and its people. Rug Doctor employs over 750 people located in 30 states. We have an admirable track record with respect to employee relations. In fact, one of the major core values from our founder and CEO, Roger Kent, centers on fairness to its people, customers and business partners. Roger attributes our years of success at Rug Doctor to the value we place on our employees.

Thank you for taking the time to consider our response.

Tim Wall
President & COO
Rug Doctor

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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:54 PM
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35. Fine
But until they fire the ass who was in the know and fired Bernie, they and their company can rot in hell and I will never do business with them.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:30 PM
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40. This COO should fire the guy who fired Bernie, then
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:32 PM
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42. now that sounds like a pantload
"they had NO knowledge" of mr. chippie's situation when they fired him?? bull-shit :grr:
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:39 PM
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43. The Rug Doctor culture apparent;ly involves plugging themselves...
... even when it involves a woman dead of brain cancer. Gotta love their marketing - that last paragaph especially.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 07:59 AM
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47. That "Culture"...
Edited on Fri Mar-03-06 08:00 AM by BiggJawn
Sounds an awful lot like "Office Space" or "Dilbert" culture.

"Oooh! We got CAUGHT! Offer Chippie his old job back, and to show everyone how NICE we are, give him back-pay, too!"

Companies whose Brass brag about their "Open Door Policy" often have a "Revolving Door Policy" at the employee entrance, in my experience.

"My door is ALWAYS open! Of course, I'll hand anyone who walks in their nuts in a teacup..."

The Trapdoor Spider has an "Open Door Policy", too...
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:03 PM
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37. This is third world mentality. n/t
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:49 PM
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44. I emailed the company and told them to fire the boss. nt
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:03 PM
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45. My Co-Worker Recently Lost His Wife
From breast cancer. Left a 13-year-old daughter. He was telecommuting and was on leave without pay to care for her. He's back at work now, but we did everything we could to support him during her illness.

I hope that boss has to take off to be with an ill loved one someday and remembers what he did.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 09:17 AM
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48. Most people I've worked for would bend over backward to help
Good grief, my eldest (and dearest) furbaby was deathly ill in October, and had to be hand-fed for several days. My supervisor and HER supervisor told me not to worry about taking the time... this was the man's spouse.
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JohnstownDEM Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 09:44 AM
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49. Read: Company rethinks bad publicity they recieved.
n/t
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antiblazer Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 02:28 PM
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52. Bush's free market at work
This is more "conservative compasssion". Can't work because your spouse died? Tough luck. The corporate bottom line is all that matters to Bush-bots.
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