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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:41 AM
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Dubai ports firm enforces Israel boycott
Dubai ports firm enforces Israel boycott

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1139395502196&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

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MICHAEL FREUND, THE JERUSALEM POST Feb. 28, 2006

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The parent company of a Dubai-based firm at the center of a political storm in the US over the purchase of American ports participates in the Arab boycott against Israel, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

The firm, Dubai Ports World, is seeking control over six major US ports, including those in New York, Miami, Philadelphia and Baltimore. It is entirely owned by the Government of Dubai via a holding company called the Ports, Customs and Free Zone Corporation (PCZC), which consists of the Dubai Port Authority, the Dubai Customs Department and the Jebel Ali Free Zone Area.

"Yes, of course the boycott is still in place and is still enforced," Muhammad Rashid a-Din, a staff member of the Dubai Customs Department's Office for the Boycott of Israel, told the Post in a telephone interview.

"If a product contained even some components that were made in Israel, and you wanted to import it to Dubai, it would be a problem," he said.

A-Din noted that while the head office for the anti-Israel boycott sits in Damascus, he and his fellow staff members are paid employees of the Dubai Customs Department, which is a division of the PCZC, the same Dubai government-owned entity that runs Dubai Ports World.

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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:43 AM
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1. nice, if this doesn't kill the deal
then we do ride with Bin Laden
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:45 AM
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3. maybe the Coast Guard and Lou Dobbs will aid in its demise also...
nt.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:47 AM
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5. I Havn't Watched Lou Dobbs for a While
I don't appreciate his partisan slant towards Dems, but I do appreciate him making a stand on this issue. I just hope he really is sincere, not that he isn't, just being careful.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:40 AM
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15. newslinks to coast guard objections and Lou Dobbs
The Coast Guard doesn’t think the Dubai ports deal is a good idea

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PORTS_SECURITY?SITE=JRC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-02-27-16-04-00

and

Lou Dobbs is

being pressured by DPW to quit speaking against the deal:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/02/27.html#a7324



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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:00 PM
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25. I Saw It, Thank You
I hope he keeps exposing this issue... as much as Monica was when Clinton was in office. I'd have to say, Port Security is much more important.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:06 PM
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28. It's hard to pidgeonhole Lou Dobbs.


He vehimently opposes outsourcing and is against the ports deal, so you would think he leans Dem, but on other subjects he leans more to the right. Hard to pin him down to slap on a label.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:17 PM
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29. I'm Not Trying to "pidgeonhole" Dobbs
I know he is a Republican, more independent minded, however he does slam dems whenever he has the chance. Like I said... I just don't watch him anymore. In fact, I stopped watching CNN and couple years ago.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:31 PM
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36. That makes two of us!
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:44 AM
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2. This might push the right over the edge. Their support for Israel is
even stronger than their support for Herr Bush.

It should be interesting when Faux Newz gets a hold of this.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:03 AM
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8. Fox news? Forced to watch it yesterday while waiting for dinner
thankfully the sound was off, but I would read the bullet points, I'll paraphrase from memory.

Cavuto's-My point(or whatever the fuck he calls it)

Port deal oppurtunity to beat up on Bush
Port deal opponents political oppurtunists(what's pimping the Iraq war?)
Arabs would not be in charge of security

Alot of other mind boggling bullet points but like Krugman so artfully pointed out yesterday, Bush and Cheney's blurring of Saddam, Osama and al-queda as one in the same when their not, makes it impossible for Bush Inc and Rove Inc to tell Americans that these Dubai Arabs are good Arabs and the Arabs in Iraq are the bad one's. Oh, and there a finite number of bad Arabs in Iraq and we kill only the bad one's.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:47 AM
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4. wonder what hate radio will say
once Rush et al realizes this. My question is will the boycott of Israel now be enforced at out ports, too?
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:00 AM
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6. If You're Not OUTRAGED, you're not paying attention
QUESTION: Was the State Department involved in discussions over the UAE taking over
management of six ports -- six U.S. ports?

MR. MCCORMACK: The State Department is part of an interagency process which is led
by the Department of Treasury. We did participate in it. This interagency process did a
thorough review of all aspects of this proposed sale. And the bottom line finding was that
there was no basis on -- no national security basis on which to block the sale going
forward.

http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2006&m=February&x=20060217172404xjsnommis0.3468439&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html

So 30% of Americans support terrorist operations....

At a Congressional hearing on Monday, Senator Susan Collins
released an unclassified section of the Coast Guard document on
the takeover.

The excerpt read: "There are many intelligence gaps
concerning the potential for DPW or P&O assets to support
terrorist operations, that precludes an overall threat
assessment."

Meanwhile, New Jersey officials are taking legal action to try and
block the deal, and the Port Authority of New York and New
Jersey is seeking to annul P&O's 30-year operating licence,
claiming it failed to seek permission for the transfer of ownership.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4757528.stm

"If there was a failure, we failed to recognize there might be a public
reaction," Treasury Secretary John Snow told reporters in Richmond,
Va. "Over time, we may recommend improvements in the process so
Congress is better informed about transactions."

http://www.nola.com/newsflash/topstories/index.ssf?/base/politics-7/114078417674530.xml&storylist=topstories
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:06 AM
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12. 6 ports, I know what bullshit, it's 21, 21, 21, 21
and it'll be one of those tiny little piss ant port where some gullible dumbass will take a bribe being told we are just sneaking in some exotic animal when if fact some serious explosive contraband has just entered the country and is on it's way to Iowa city.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:35 PM
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37. Iowa City? n/t
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:00 PM
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39. meaning, it's not the port that's the target but a city in the middle
of the country, maybe I should have just said a midwest city.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:19 PM
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40. Lol, i figured thats what you meant, i was just playin. n/t
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 02:10 PM
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43. Cool, shocking that the deal will close tomorrow
what a sham this 45-day review is, Reich may have some good points in his post but I am extremely leary, as well as disgusted about the Israel boycott shit.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:02 AM
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7. This actually made me laugh. How much of what we've done in
the Middle East has been for the benefit of Israel? And now the turd hearses in the white house want to turn our ports over to a Middle Eastern country that boycotts Israel. I don't believe how frigging stupid (and the word stupid doesn't do them justice) these clown buffoon bat-shit crazy assholes are.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:43 AM
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17. has there been a statement from Israel on this deal? nt
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:05 AM
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9. Will this put the Bushbots over the edge?
We shall see...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:05 AM
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10. I am taking great pleasure in the hypocrisy splatter this deal
is causing Bush

All of Bush's hypocrisies are hitting the fan.

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:12 PM
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45. No shit. Does he hold UAE's hand and hide Israel under his tunic or the
other way around. Bunch of greedy assholes all deserve each other.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:05 AM
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11. UAE doesn't even recognize Israel's right to exist
which I thought was a major issue in this country?




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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:18 AM
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13. Not when there's bidness involved!
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:59 PM
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33. kick. n/t
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:34 AM
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14. Wow, Dubai Ports World obeys Dubai import laws! Shocker!
Who would have ever thought!

If they obey American laws while operating America ports then more business to them.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:42 AM
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16. The intell gaps and the widespread handout of American visas
causes some concern and needs more scrutiny. This
really is just bidness for Bush/Carlyle Inc. Screw
the rest of us.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:45 AM
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18. Wonder how we import guns and artillery from Israel now?
Not coming through Dubai....
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:46 AM
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19. We should not support this deal if they do not let Israel trade.



If they are so into free trade, let's see them mean it.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:53 AM
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20. A Point of Correction...
Isn't it the case that Dubai Ports World is more or less obliged to follow the laws and policies of the 'host' country?

I mean the Jerusalem Post could run this story about any western company operating in a Middle East country that observes the longstanding boycott which is probably news, apparantly, to the less informed.

While I know most of the Ports debate, is essentially a race to see who can 'outfreep' the 'freepers', but are there people who sincerely believe that foreign-operated companies should NOT follow domestic law?

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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 11:09 AM
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21. the boycott names Israel and yes, the US fines Dubai for boycotted cargo
and of course, Bush Inc. is supposed to follow the
laws of this country and we've seen that it doesn't.
It's also harder when a company gets visas to hand
out willy-nilly to company workers from other countries.

This still needs scrutiny. At least we're focused
as a country on port security.
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 11:36 AM
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22. Bush is supposed to follow the laws of this country?
Who knew.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 11:52 AM
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24.  you're not a Democrat I take it....
Bush Inc. broke laws when it eavesdropped on thousands
of Americans without getting warrants from the FISA court.

"Bush’s secret action is a violation of federal wiretapping law, the Privacy Act and a violation of the Fourth Amendment."

and of course these named in a case for impeachment:

http://www.impeachbush.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5055&security=1&news_iv_ctrl=1061#5_George_Bush

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH AND OTHER NAMED OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES HAVE COMMITTED IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES OF UNPRECEDENTED DANGER TO THE CONSTITUTION AND PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES.

Draft Articles of Impeachment of President George W. Bush and other named officials of the United States charge the most serious crimes known to law and history. Nothing in the experience of the impeachment power under the Constitution compares. The conduct charged threatens the Constitution, the United Nations, the rule of law and the lives of unknown thousands, or millions of people by their act and example.

The alleged impeachable acts of President George W. Bush include:

1. Ordering and directing "first strike" war of aggression against Afghanistan causing thousands of deaths;

2. Removing the government of Afghanistan by force and installing a government of his choice;

3. Authorizing daily intrusions into Iraqi airspace and aerial attacks including attacks on alleged defense installations in Iraq which have killed hundreds of people in time of peace;

4. Authorizing, ordering and condoning attacks in Afghanistan and Iraq on civilians, civilian facilities and locations where civilian casualties are unavoidable;

5. Threatening the use of nuclear weapons and ordering preparation for their use;

6. Threatening the independence and sovereignty of Iraq by belligerently proclaiming his personal intention to change its government by force;

7. Authorizing, ordering and condoning assassinations, summary executions, murder, kidnappings, secret and other illegal detentions of individuals, torture and physical and psychological coercion of prisoners;

8. Authorizing, ordering and condoning violations of rights of individuals under the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eight Amendments to the Constitution and of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, and other international protections of human rights;

9. Authorizing, directing and condoning bribery and coercion of individuals and governments to obtain his war ends;

10. Making, ordering and condoning false statements and propaganda and concealing information vital to public discussion and informed judgment to create a climate of fear and hatred and destroy opposition to his war goals.

President Bush is accused of Crimes Against Peace, War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity. No crimes are greater threats to the Constitution of the United States, the United Nation Charter, the rule of law or the future of humanity.



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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:06 PM
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27. Well you convinced me...
but my voting record is really not the issue...

It's the guys we voted for, you should be all upset with, dude...tell the People all about Bush--the GOP hates him, his approval rating is lower than Nixon's...should be a slamdunk, no?
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:32 PM
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30. I'm a dude-ess actually, but gender and politics shouldn't box us in
when it comes to finding the truth, should it?
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:00 PM
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32. What truth?
You don't want foreigners running your port?

There is NO truth here, there is ONLY 'opinions' and apologies on the dude thing.
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:16 PM
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35. (34%) a sound rejection
CBS released most of the results to a new
and lengthy poll last night. The results, which
include an all-time-low approval rating for the
terrorist....president.

So 30% of Americans support terrorist operations.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 04:26 PM
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41. the question isn't whether we want foreigners overseeing the terminals
because that's already happening and has happened.
This deal got cut without the lawful 45 day period
for a transaction such as this, without Congressional
oversight, some questions from Homeland Security about
it, the ties and profits to a couple of Bush's cabinet
members and after Bush Inc. has spent the last four
years painting Arabs as terrorists, they think
Americans will just think no oversight on the takeover
of terminals in 21 American ports is ok?

Yeah, spin that record again.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 06:32 PM
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44. Follow our laws?
Part of the ports deal involves the company not needing to keep their records on U.S. soil, and thus out of reach of our legal system. So...
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:02 PM
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26. wow!
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:53 PM
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31. Shows that Dubai Ports world
"doesn't support Terrorism", right?:eyes:

:sarcasm:
OMFG! If this deal goes through it will be hell!:nuke:
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:02 PM
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34. Oh, I see.....
Americans who do not wish this deal to go through are "Racist" but boycotting Israel is just fine. :eyes:
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:38 PM
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38. Now you know why the neocon-PNACers have split with Bush over UAE
deal. Before, Bush could do no wrong.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:26 PM
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42. 9-11 Comm never asked for input & deal goes thru 1st, investigation later
This from Sen. Carl Levin, Hardball tonight (Tues.). Also, Levin says the CFIUS committee NEVER ASKED THE 9-11 COMMISSION ABOUT THE DEAL and it is scheduled to be approved right away, with the 45-day investigation coming after.

More evidence this is a BushCo investment scam.
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