Sweeping anti-abortion laws proposed

[Scooter24]

Sweeping anti-abortion laws proposed
Jan. 31, 2006 at 9:28AM

Legislators in at least five states are proposing bold anti-abortion measures as the Bush administration reshapes the U.S. Supreme Court, a report said.

With the goal of challenging the Roe vs. Wade ruling that ensured a woman's right to an abortion, lawmakers in Georgia, Indiana, Ohio, South Dakota and Tennessee propose banning all abortions except when the woman's life is in danger, Stateline.org reported.

If enacted, legal experts said the laws would be the first absolute abortion bans since the landmark 1973 ruling.

However, some abortion foes worry that state bans could backfire especially since five pro-Roe justices remain in the Supreme Court.

http://www.washtimes.com/upi/20060131-090347-1251r.htm

[LiberalVoice]

1. You see Dems?!?! This is why it was fucking important.

19 cowardly pieces of shit.

[rodeodance]

4. "WE" know.

[snooper2]

7. It won't be overturned...

Jesus Christ, why is everyone so freaked out?

How many Repuke daughters have had abortions, think of all of them in elected office.

Make it illegal state by state? sure, that will work...

Whatever, it won't happen.....you imagine what the backlash will be when people wake from their non-voting daze and say, oh, if I get prego, I have to carry it to term, oh shit....

It will not happen....

[rodeodance]

11. oh, i do not agree with you. Many people are really strange these days.

[Scooter24]

14. you have to remember...

the right still thinks it has a mandate in this country.

[Maat]

15. I didn't used to worry, in a way.

I'd privately say to myself, "Well, we're safe in California." Then I thought of the ban on the D&X procedure (the so-called Partial Birth Abortion Ban, which has been stayed until the constitutional challenge is done). They passed that law stating that there ability to enact and enforce a nationwide ban was based upon Congress' commerce power. Until that point, I believed that certain conservatives just wanted to permit each state to legislate its own abortion laws. Now, I realize that they want to enact NATIONAL legislation telling us all what to do.

Don't misunderstand; I'm always been a fighter for reproductive choice. But I did not FEAR for California (and other blue states). Now, I do. Their machinations just won't effect the poor in other red states; they will affect blue, progressive states as well.

I hope that I have expressed myself clearly. I just feel a big urgency to fight for reproductive rights everywhere, like never before.

[Stinky The Clown]

16. I actually think there is a better than even chance this WILL happen

In one of the strongholds of the religiously insane, such a ban is more than possible. It is likely.

The ban will then be challenged. The ban will be overturned on appeal and go to the Supremes.

That's when the shit will hit the fan.

[against all enemies]

17. It will only affect poor women, the rich will always see a DR.

Republicans are always hypocrites, abortion is just another instance. It won't matter to them. They'll campaign against abortion on Monday, take little Suzy to the Doctor's on Tuesday for an abortion so she won't ruin her life, then be right back there on Wednesday protesting against the right to choose.

[Pachamama]

18. Yes, it is true...women in my circles will just be able to take "Suzi" for

a trip to Europe....safe and discreet and no one needs to know...meanwhile poor women and girls will be forced to either bearing children that they don't want or can't take care of or as bad, back alley abortions that risk their lives...

The far right certainly didn't take long, did they?

[against all enemies]

20. I think it will still be legal in the northeast and the west.

The pukes will stop abortion in the red states, and the court will uphold their laws but I can't see the more progressive states ever passing such crap.

[saigon68]

30. Especially if the father is BLACK

Can't have no chocolate baby </sarcasm>

[webtrainer]

42. I live in a country where abortion is illegal . . .

(Nicaragua) and a 12 year old girl just died because the boy's friends kidnapped her and tried to perform their own back alley abortion on her. She was found and rushed to the hospital. Too late of course.

The rich people here go to Miami for their abortions. Gets my blood boiling to think about it . . .

[EST]

19. Take a moment...

Think of all the self-loathing homophobes who, somehow, feel they can "absolve" themselves of their mental stain and torture if only they can denounce and make life miserable for gays.

I really think the meanest haters will come from those self righteous bigots whose excuse is they were "forced" to have an abortion.

[KyndCulture]

22. You're high.... it will be and turned over to the states...

hope there are no poor women in your state...

[mike_c]

23. and a far right wing ideologue won't be appointed to the SCOTUS...

...and a dumb-as-turds poseur cowboy won't be appointed president, and America doesn't start wars of aggression, and we don't torture, and....

Oh-- wait a minute....

[LiberalVoice]

26. "when people wake from their non-voting daze"

How long have we been waiting for people to "wake from their daze"? How long? How much worse has it gotten since * took office? We keep waiting for them to wake up and they keep proving to us they wont. And honestly im getting tired of waiting for grown adults to take control of their freedom.

[Theres-a]

35. Tuesday at work

Noone even knew who Alito was.I wish I was kidding.I said he's the new judge on the supreme court,and they looked at me like I was out of my f'ing mind.THEY DIDN'T KNOW what I was referring to.As if the supreme court decisions will not affect there lives.These are grown women with female children,btw.

[primavera]

36. They don't have to overturn it

All they need do is re-interpret Rove v. Wade to allow for a few added restrictions here, a few more there, until a woman's right to choose is so dilluted that it essentially acomplishes the same thing without ever having to undergo the political shit storm that would accompany actually overturning it.

[silvermachine]

39. Don't be so sure...

...but then again why do I get the feeling that you are a male that doesn't have to really worry about this issue in the same way that females do?

Oh yeah, maybe it's flippant remarks like this:

<<<Jesus Christ, why is everyone so freaked out?>>>

[NickB79]

43. The majority of Americans have been voting against there interests

Since 2000.

2200 dead soldiers, thousands more wounded seriously, yet the American people still aren't outraged.

Hundreds of thousands homeless because of bumbling by Bush after Katrina, no outrage.

The average American makes less today than they did 5 yrs ago when adjusted for inflation, no outrage.

We are being spied upon over phone and Internet, no outrage.

Jobs are vanishing overseas in the slowest "recovery" in US history, and the jobs being created to replace good-paying manufacturing jobs are low-paying ones, no outrage.

Gas prices are reaching record highs, no outrage.

Nope, the Average American will bitch about all this for a few minutes now and then, but when voting time comes they vote against their interests because Bush and his cronies are "good Christians" and "really care about the American people."

The Average American is digging his own grave.

[Voltaire99]

32. The trouble goes well beyond just those 19.

Though your description is apt.

[LynnTheDem]

2. ANTI-CHOICE!!! Bring back the wire coathanger!!!

RAH! RAH! RAH!

:sarcasm:

How the fuck did so many people in this country become so backass stupid?!

[NYC]

21. Remember this picture?

[LynnTheDem]

24. Yes they can reuse that photo when they ban abortions.

GET YER WIRE HANGER HEEEERE!

Back alley abortionists must be rubbing their hands in glee at the thought of all that money they'll rake in with black market abortions...and overhead expenses of one wire coathanger @ $0.50.

THANK BUSH when your mother...sister...daughter...wife is left to bleed to death in a back alley, MFing stupid rightwingnuts. And remember, RED STATES have the highest number of abortions.

CURRENTLY done safely, legally, in hospitals and if you're so stupid you think making it illegal will stop abortions, then you're really stupid with no fucking clue about history.

[KyndCulture]

25. partial birth abortion.... sigh.... another myth of white hetero men...

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION...

did I say that loud enough?

[BoneDaddy]

34. What?

Right, only white hetero males believe that. ONLY white males are anti-abortion. Check your labels at the door please.

[lavenderdiva]

40. all white middle aged men, I notice.

n/t

[Tesha]

29. It took decades of effort by thousands of Republicans.

> How the fuck did so many people in this country become so backass stupid?!

It took decades of effort by thousands of Republicans.

1. Destroy public education

2. Destroy people's faith in their governments

3. Encourage religious credulity over scientific rationality

4. Take over the media

5. Etc.

Tesha

[converted_democrat]

3. Kennedy is the swing vote isn't he? Not real comforting to think about.n/t

[Pirate Smile]

6. Which is why Coulter would like to see Stevens poisoned.

[NewWaveChick1981]

5. I think my move to Canada may happen after all...

...I've always threatened to move to Canada and renounce my US citizenship if it ever came to this. I'm not religious, but God help us all...:(

[Teaser]

12. Stay and fight.

Looks to get plenty ugly here. I'm almost looking forward to it.

[primavera]

37. You sure it's worth fighting for?

If Americans are so ready to sell out their democratic principles and institutions in order to embrace theocracy, plutocracy, and autocracy, maybe the only cure is for them to be reminded first hand of just how bad life was in feudal era they're so eager to resurrect. Maybe what needs to happen is to let the Repukes reduce the country to a third world banana republic so that Americans can, once and for all, get over their warped priorities and evolve beyond their present neanderthal level of development. But I'll admit, I'm not terribily enthusiastic about sticking around and living in the medieval country they're creating for themselves.

[Teaser]

38. I like fighting

the more uphill the better.

[rodeodance]

8. Wash Times had this article ready to go as soon as A. sworn in.

[Maat]

9. Whoa .. I knew this was on the horizon.

I had heard about Indiana and Ohio - now, I've caught with all of the proposed changes. This scares me to death, as a recent law graduate. These are ... 'trigger laws.' Wow, look how many are being proposed! Guess that lets me know where the religous reich has the most influence.

They'd better watch it; they will go to far, and women will take to the streets in mass protest, joined by our supporters.

[rodeodance]

10. Recommend it please

[DaveinMD]

13. good

maybe this will wake up some of the pro choice Republican women who have continued to vote Republican.

[warrens]

27. Let them kill Rove v. Wade

The nazis will never win another election.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

28. Nazis don't have to win elections. n/t

[nodehopper]

33. the point is, they didn't win the last two either.

[0007]

31. Coming from the best toilet paper on the market for ruff assholes

I didn't bother to see what the proposal is all about. But I'm more than sure it is junior's way of telling the network whore to put the word out in hopes of catching the attention of religion right wing nuts.

[Not_So_Right_Wing]

41. so it begins...

welcome to America, we choose for you.

[Bake]

44. The ignorance is simply astonishing

I work in a large law firm. By and large, the political apathy among LAWYERS regarding a Supreme Court nominee was simply astonishing. Some are Republicans, but when I pointed out that Alito (they didn't get the "Scalito" reference ... sigh) was anti-choice, they were quite surprised! SURPRISED!!

Imagine how surprised they'll be when these laws start getting passed.

I've just f'ing given up on hoping "the masses will wake up."

They won't.

Bake

[depakid]

45. You'll find that most lawyers aren't all that smart

Especially these days.

That's why they're giving out all these wierd advanced degrees in Law Schools now. A JD doesn't mean shit anymore. It never ceases to amaze me how little most lawyers know about things outside their narrow fields.