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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:40 AM
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Security speech gives Gore poll boost
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060119-011659-8894r

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Gore's speech in Washington on Jan. 15 made him more unpopular with Republicans, but it led to sharp rises in his popularity ratings with Democrats and Independents, according to the poll, which was conducted by HCD Research. The poll was conducted Jan. 17-18, among 822 respondents, HCD Research said.

Gore's favorable ratings among Democrats increased from 64 percent to 77 percent among those who viewed it. Favorable ratings among Independents increased from 25 percent to 36 percent after viewing the speech. However, among Republicans, Gore's unfavorable ratings increased from 75 percent prior to viewing the speech to 81 percent after viewing it.

Gore's criticism of the administration's security surveillance policies had the greatest impact on Independents. Among Independents, those who believed the government's actions were illegal increased from 48 percent before viewing the speech to 55 percent after viewing it. There was minimal change among Democrats and Republicans, HCD Research said.

(more, but not much... )
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:45 AM
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1. Gore was elected as our president
and the independents know he was fit to take the job. He and Tipper would have made one heck of a first couple compared to the chickenhawk and the Stepford wife.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:06 AM
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2. The Republicans hate that he's still talking.
They hate it with the inner denied knowledge of what they've done.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:39 AM
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3. Good point, Aquart! The "inner denied knowledge" driving their
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 03:41 AM by Peace Patriot
hate. I think it's true on a lot things.

Gore/Kerry. That's my suggestion. The "poetic justice" ticket. The two men who were unlawfully denied the White House. There's nothing Americans love more than justice. Add "poetic" to it, and you've got a slam-dunk!

(Note: I was never big on Kerry. He had a great anti-war and anti-torture case that he never made--and poll numbers show that 60% of the American people would have been with him on it. 58% (!) opposed the Iraq war BEFORE the invasion, in Feb. '03--a number that has hardly changed except to go up. 63% oppose torture "under any circumstances. (May '04.) If he'd made that case, he would have won by a 10% margin--instead of the 4%-5% he did win by--and would have blown the election fraudsters right out the water. Anyway, I think Kerry can re-learn, under Gore's tutelage, what our country is all about. He has potential. He always did. I'm not sure what-all led him astray, but it was not personal corruption, from what I can see. Maybe fear (palpable in DC, I understand--and not to be sneeared at, given who he was up against). A bit of steely spine from Gore, and some speech therapy, and our once great BCII prosecutor and courageous anti-war protestor and truth-teller will rise again. And whatever else one thinks, the man WON! People trusted him and elected him President. So he gets to be on my ticket!)

(Poetic justice!)
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:15 AM
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13. As strange a ticket as G/K sounds, these are strange times and
though it would seem strange for Kerry to take a back seat, in the spirit of unity, he ought to. What an awesome bookend this would be to the 2000 hijacking of our country.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:48 AM
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4. I don't think they hate it so much that he's talking...
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 03:48 AM by ALiberalSailor
...what they hate is that we're listening.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 06:23 AM
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6. Yeah, I felt that strongly about this Gore speech, that it really wouldn't
matter what people here at DU persist in calling the "MSM" (not mainstream at all) say about this speech, or if they black-holed it, or marginalized it, or ridiculed it, in their yip-yappy lapdog way. They have become irrelevant. People are onto them. And this speech had a feel about it of resonating throughout the land, an unstoppable rightness to it, some quality to it that simply couldn't be muffled or talking pointed. Truth! I guess that's simply it. The ring of truth. But also, who is speaking. The man who should have been president. The man who now seems to be on fire with passionate resistance to the horror and criminality of this junta. What he has to say is so right on. And who he is, is so right on. Or rather, who he has become. He's been through the fire and it has ignited him. And maybe that is us, too. We've been through the fire. We've suffered and agonized and wondered what to do. And it has ignited US, as a people. And so, we, the people, ARE going to hear him. He is speaking OUR language, the language of the fire at the heart of our democracy. That passion. That idealistic passion. And there is nothing they can do about it. It WILL be heard.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 06:56 AM
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7. And we, my friend, are listening!
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 06:13 AM
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5. By my reckoning, this is the year 1994
Because America has moved six year backward instead of six years forward since * stole the elections of 2000, and robbed us of a real President.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 08:56 AM
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8. What a wake-up to Independents -- this is encouraging.
Thanks, Al!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 08:59 AM
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9. Poor wittle Repukes...
...Gore hurt their wittle feelings! :rofl: :rofl:
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:55 AM
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10. Just proves they fear Gore
They vote party line, they care nothing about the ethics of people they vote for..because they have no ethics...
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:11 AM
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11. Link to his Executive Powers speech from January 16, 2006
For those lurkers who missed this historic speech:


This speech is the first one on the list on this linked page.
http://www.c-span.org/Search/basic.asp?BasicQueryText=gore&SortBy=date


Fmr. Vice Pres. Gore Speech on Executive Powers

The American Constitution Society and the Liberty Coalition host a speech by Fmr. Vice Pres. Al Gore at the DAR Hall in Washington. Gore speaks about the limits of executive power, the issue of monitoring domestic communications and the authorization of the use of torture in the war against terrorism.
1/16/2006: WASHINGTON, DC: 1 hr. 5 min.


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WhereThereIsFire Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:12 AM
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12. And they are afraid of the media exposure it received ...
there had been speculation that it really wouldn't be covered by the media ... and it wasn't by some of the media ... but K.Olbermann, who seems to be a favorite of much of viewing America, gave bits of it on 2 or 3 shows. And, that has kept the item alive and permitted more Americans to learn from it. Hooray, Keith!
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:32 AM
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14. Gore Speech Improves ``Favorable'' Ratings Among Democrats and Independent

http://newark.dbusinessnews.com/shownews.php?newsid=58786&type_news=latest

Gore Speech Improves ``Favorable'' Ratings Among Democrats and Independents; Unfavorable Ratings Increase Among Republicans

Newark -- Results of a new national study among 822 American adults revealed that a recent speech by former Vice President Al Gore improved his favorable ratings among Democrats and Independents.

The study was conducted by HCD Research during January 17-18, to measure the support among participants before and after viewing former Vice President Al Gore's speech at the American Constitution Society and Liberty Coalition in Washington, D.C., on January 15, 2006.

Among the findings:
The former vice president's favorable ratings among Democrats increased from 64% prior to viewing the speech to 77% after viewing it. Favorable ratings among Independents increased from 25% to 36% after viewing the speech.

Among Republicans, Gore's unfavorable ratings increased from 75% prior to viewing the speech to 81% after viewing it.
The speech appeared to have the greatest impact among Independents regarding the legality of current policies related to monitoring U.S. citizens. Participants were asked whether the actions taken by the U.S. Government related to monitoring U.S. citizens without a warrant were legal or illegal. Among Independents, those who believed the government's actions were illegal increased from 48% prior to viewing the speech to 55% after viewing it. There was minimal change among Democrats and Republicans.



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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:32 AM
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15. MORE,MORE,MORE
WE NEED MORE OF THIS KIND OF FORCEFUL LEADERSHIP FROM DEMOCRATS.

MY CAPS LOCK IS BROKEN WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>>>>>>>>>>
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:32 AM
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16. But, goodness gracious, how can that be?
I mean, he spoke plainly and passionately and even seemed a bit -- oh the very idea! -- miffed at times.

Won't that just drive voters away? :cry:





:sarcasm:




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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:32 AM
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17. hello, knock knock....see? if we MAKE A PRINCIPLED STAND, people like us
its when we pussyfoot around and cower in the republican shadow that they don't.

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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:32 AM
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18. That approval rating is a lot higher than you-know-who.....
:bounce:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:32 AM
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19. Well, duh
The former vice president's favorable ratings among Democrats increased from 64% prior to viewing the speech to 77% after viewing it. Favorable ratings among Independents increased from 25% to 36% after viewing the speech. Among Republicans, Gore's unfavorable ratings increased from 75% prior to viewing the speech to 81% after viewing it.

Do you need this tattooed across your foreheads, Dems? PEOPLE LIKE IT WHEN YOU FIGHT THE REPUBS BACK! And Repubs DON'T like it because behind their bluster, THEY'VE GOT NOTHING!

:headbang:
rocknation
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:32 AM
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20. You see what a principled stand can do?
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 10:56 AM by AX10
This must be the Democrats policy from here on out.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:38 AM
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21. Kick and Nom, Gore in 08.
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PVK Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 01:37 AM
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24. Seconded. n/t
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:05 PM
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22. It's too bad his unfavorable ratings with Republicans climbed,
I was hoping some of them could be saved. This is an American Crisis not a partisan one.


Kicked and nominated.

:kick:
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:42 PM
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23. alas, it seems that they're pretty partisan already
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 09:43 PM by Lisa
The last time Republicans said nice things about Gore was after his 2000 concession speech, and even then, it was probably out of obligation (or rather, they didn't want to be seen as kicking a guy when he's down). I suspect that feeling faded pretty quickly, since the GOP have short memories for Democrats doing positive things (and long memories for perceived violations!). Since Gore has been speaking out against the administration, Bush's supporters would get him for that ... or if they are especially forgiving (or really out of the loop), they would likely take the dismissive approach that "conditions have changed since 9/11, so Gore is old hat now".

I don't think Gore could gain much with the Republicans. If he had been at 50 or 60% disapproval, and his negative ratings had jumped to the 80s, perhaps ... but my take is that he hasn't got much to lose. The fact he was already at 75% disapproval so long after he's been out of office (and that mercy flight to New Orleans too) -- I don't know what it would take to change their minds. He has a lot more to gain from doing things which galvanize the Independents and moderate Dems, regardless of what the Republicans think.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:48 AM
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25. It's too bad the speech was not given more attention
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 04:53 AM by fujiyama
The corporate media stations made little mention of it.

It was an important speech and breaking the law shouldn't be a partisan issue. I guess pukes really are a bunch of fascists if they can defend police state tactics. They obviously don't care about the constitution (well other than the 2nd amendment).

But independants have shown they are not fond of Bush anyways. I believe a majority went for Kerry. The problem is there are fewer independants actually. Either way, it shows that if Gore has this kind of passion on the campaign trail, he may win.
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