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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:32 PM
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USDA Using Satellites to Monitor Farmers
<i>WICHITA, Kan. - Satellites have monitored crop conditions around the world for decades, helping traders predict futures prices in commodities markets and governments anticipate crop shortages.

But those satellite images are now increasingly turning up in courtrooms across the nation as the Agriculture Department's Risk Management Agency cracks down on farmers involved in crop insurance fraud.</i>

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060113/ap_on_bi_ge/farm_scene
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I'm not sure if this was posted but I did not see it today. I have to say, I'm feeling more and more like I am in "<b>One Nation, Under Surveillance</b>" This is some scary (bleep). With all these wiretaps, people being under surveillance... who really are the terrorists? Our own government?

The ironic part about this is while they are watching us to make sure we are up to no good, who's watching them?

Dap

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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:33 PM
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1. which also brings up a point...
Who gets the early information on the commodities markets (thus making the profit on which way the swing goes)???

Tell me all of the crap that's going on is really just a nightmare and I will wake up tomorrow and everything will be back to normal.

Dap
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:35 PM
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3. Who?
The same people who got the early info on 9/11 and sold all that airline stock short.
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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:39 PM
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4. I totally forgot about that.
Has there ever been an investigation into that?

It shouldn't be too hard for the govt or SEC to track down people through their brokerage accounts. Hopefully it wasn't something swept under the carpet like everything else.

Dap
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:44 PM
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5. they'll investigate it
right after they finish investigating "phase II" of the intel failure...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:34 PM
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2. "who's watching them?" That's the whole point and the problem.
I'd also like to know, but will we ever?

Nice to see ya here, fellow LIer/DUer!
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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:17 PM
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7. LI not for long
I'm moving to the midwest so I can spread some democracy. Make the republican states, democrat! :-)

I'm outta here in 3 weeks.

Dap
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:28 AM
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8. Good luck with your move, and keep in touch! nt
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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 12:17 PM
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11. I'll still be here
Not moving from the forum :-) I might even become more active.

Dap
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:48 AM
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9. We'll welcome you here in the Midwest
I'm in the Kansas City, Missouri area, and it's a shame what the republicans have done to Missouri.
We've noticed that it's picking up however, toward the democratic party again. :dem: :thumbsup: :hi:
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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 12:18 PM
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12. Missouri
You know, I heard 'Missouri loves Company', okay, bad joke. I will be in Indiana and I plan to visit as many nearby states as I can. (driving along with my 'Impeach Bush' sign on the back of my van)

Dap
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:59 PM
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6. One Nation, Under Surveillance
Brilliant!

As long as people are pushing the pledge in schools, I think we should encourage students to use "under surveillance" instead of "under god".
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:53 AM
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10. You got that right!
Got a cell phone? Can pinpoint you!
Use an ATM? Credit card? Write a check?
Have "ONSTAR"? (Nifty GPS tracker!)
We live in an Orwellian nightmare! With Alito on the bench it can only get worse!
Welcome to the nightmare of "Buschco"! They will NEVER give up power!
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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 12:19 PM
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13. On Terrorist Nation, Under Bush... eom
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 12:22 PM
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14. more governmental spying - using cell phones
GOV'T. WINS COURT AUTHORIZATION TO SPY ON CELL PHONE USE

Summary: Despite three court rulings that cell phone tracking by government agencies without a court order is illegal, a fourth court ruling has now authorized blanket spying. The government can now use cell phone data to track physical location, without a search warrant or probable cause.

NEW YORK -- A federal court issued an opinion permitting government agencies to use cell phone data to track a cell phone's physical location, without a search warrant based on probable cause.

The ruling seems to be in line with recent revelations about President Bush authorizing secret, warrantless wiretaps. The court opinion on Dec. 20, 2005 went largely unnoticed by the media or the public, but may have major ramifications on privacy rights and issues.

Magistrate Judge Gabriel W. Gorenstein of the United States District Court, Southern District of New York issued the opinion, despite three previous rulings to the contrary by other judges. There is no party to appeal, so the ruling paves the way for government agencies in all states to begin cell phone tracking without legal difficulty.

There was only one party in each case that was rejected by other courts, the same party in the case that was given approval -- the Department of Justice. The DOJ did not appeal the cases it lost, and there is no party to appeal the case it won.

...more...

GOV'T. TRACKING CELL PHONES WITHOUT COURT ORDER

Summary: Turn on your cell phone and you give government agencies instant information about your location, and even your speed of travel. It may not be long before you get a speeding ticket in the mail, or police at your door.

KANSAS CITY, MO. -- Drivers with cell phones are being tracked in a new government program designed to monitor the location and speed of cell phones in vehicles moving along Missouri highways.

The state of Missouri has entered into a $6.2 million contract with National Engineering Technology Corporation (NET) to track cell phone users, without their permission.

The first test of the system is now under way in Kansas City and St. Louis, according to published reports. The high-tech, government authorized spy network is operated by NET and Delcan, a Canadian company. The two are owned by ITIS Holdings, a British company.

Cell phone tracking is also taking place in Baltimore, Washington, D.C., Norfolk, Va., Atlanta and Macon, Ga. Vehicles with E-ZPass or FasTrak toll transponder payment systems are also easily tracked by government agencies in a similar way.

...more...
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 12:24 PM
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15. This should make the red state yokels happy they voted for Bush. nt
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