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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-08-06 11:46 PM Original message |
Sea Shepherd Sideswipes Japanese Whaling Supply Ship (w/ 'can opener') |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-08-06 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. . |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. A few dozen people like Captain Watson . . . |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
3. Thank God for people and groups like this. |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
4. I hope next time they sink it. |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
5. Somebody has to take on the job of enforcement-actual military would work |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. And Bush's acting in the UN's name vs. Iraq is better than this how? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. He's violating international law |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Private ships cannot enforce international law BY BREAKING IT |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Is there a point at which you would support actions like these? |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I never said vigilantism. Because the word is far too weak. |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
47. "Be proud of the criminality" -- the foundation of a "necessity defense"? |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
62. It is not illegal for private parties to enforce the law. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #62 |
78. er, for the most part, yes, it actually is |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #78 |
115. Not in this case. Not in these waters. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:01 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I'm all for direct action in defense of the planet and it's animals |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I stand my position. Unlawful force is wrong. Govt or civilians |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. What they're doing is against the law now |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Doing the "right thing" against the law is a big Neocon idea. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:31 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Please. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
63. Wrong. The analogy would be someone stopping the NSA from criminally |
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BrendaStarr (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
67. Kagemusha, your name is very interesting |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. It means I don't want my employer associated with anything I write. |
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Ben Ceremos (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. But defensive force |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. are you using a laptop to view this? |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #16 |
40. Sea Shepherd is acting fully within the law, so stop complaining. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
86. me, too. I'm sending Sea Shepard a donation |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Good for you. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. SOMEONE MUST ENFORCE THE LAW. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
85. Just an attempt at a citizen's arrest, Kag! |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
97. there IS NO DAMN LAW when no one enforces it. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
22. actually, the Japanese Fleet is NOT violating international law |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Let's hope those who think like you aren't n charge of anything important |
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Ben Ceremos (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
25. We all possess the authority |
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LivingInTheBubble (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
54. This is not Iraq - get back to me when they are killing people. NT |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
168. No flames. |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
6. Sea Shepherd blog: |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
8. Apparently this is good vigilantism, not bad vigilantism. |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. United Nations World Charter for Nature |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
102. In many respects, I assume |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Voice of Reason. Thank goodness. Might=Right=Wrong |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. define "LAW"--define "Vigilantism"-Whose "LAW"? humanity cannot justify |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:34 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. do you actually know anything about Minke Whales? |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. They are different from tuna, salmon, bluefish, etc. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. so are cows, deer, sheep, goats, guinea pigs, hamsters... |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
43. I doubt the argument will convince anyone. Take seals... |
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Number9Dream (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. False propaganda from sealing industry |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. Um, even if all your numbers are 100% correct, effect = nothing |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:07 AM Response to Reply #23 |
41. Isn't that number from the Institute of Cetacean Research? |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
44. when's the last time you bought a tin of Whale mammal meat? |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Actually admitting to a Intentional Collision |
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Ben Ceremos (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. If patiently waiting |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
24. Paul Watson is a good man..... |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:52 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. except they aren't poachers. |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:58 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. They are technically "poaching"...you see, the Japanese are trying to get |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:13 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. and it's not 'commcercial' |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #33 |
42. commerce is defined as the buying and selling of goods on a large scale |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
76. I sure hope you're a vegan |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Damn good thing I am a vegan. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. good on the food |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. One nice thing about being vegan |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Thank you for presenting a level-headed analysis of the situation |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:03 AM Response to Original message |
34. BRAVO! |
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phrenzy (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
35. Eco-Terrorists? |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Nice TRY ! Protectors equal Exploiters--yeah--in your dreams maybe!!!! |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
64. Enforcing the law is not breaking the law. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
36. good! |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
37. Outstanding |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #37 |
46. AGREE--and that will have to be how it is in the future |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
38. Heroic actions, Sea Shepherd. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
75. since when is Sea Shepherd the Police? |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Endangered fin whales are being targeted this year |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. well technically, Finbacks are "threatened' not endangered |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:35 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Whale, finback -- Current Status: Endangered |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #75 |
89. Since |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. I will donate $50 to DU |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:17 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. I'll go on the word |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. and I'll go on the word of the attorneys I know |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. I guess I should be impressed |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. ok then |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Well, in response |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #106 |
113. so let me get this straight |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Jurisdiction and the laws that designate same. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:19 AM Response to Reply #119 |
149. True, as a US citizen |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #149 |
152. Good points. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:53 AM Response to Reply #152 |
158. as to your points |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
39. Dare I say it? |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
51. Pic of the 'can opener' |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. . |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Looks an awful lot like a shark's tooth, doesn't it? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
109. looks |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:20 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. An RPG would send that ship to the bottom. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:23 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. What do you |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #112 |
120. I don't propose to do anything. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #120 |
126. The french |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:11 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. The Rainbow Warrior |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Both acts were stupid and illegal, risk loss of life(nt) |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
55. Where is the mention of law enforcement being contacted? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Sea Shepherd has requested the Australian govt. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
56. If they are indeed fishing illegally (ie. "pirates") then OK, otherwise... |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
58. Update: Japanese Whaling Fleet on the Run Again – 48 Hours Without Whaling |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:48 PM Response to Reply #58 |
83. "We have not seen one whale killed down here |
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Herstal (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
59. Sounds terroristic. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. No it doesn't. |
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Herstal (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Whales are not people. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:33 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. People are not whales. |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #71 |
105. Whales are not people???????!!!? !?!?!?!?!?!??! |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Then deplore the whalers, too. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. Frankly I do deplore the whalers, to a large degree. But... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #74 |
88. Here's their "badge" |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. I already replied to this charter above. This is no license to ram |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Your opinion. |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
98. yeah, maybe they should use RPGs? |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
60. Sink the motherfuckers |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
93. I agree, sink them |
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greiner3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
69. Japan's offical reason for gathering whale meat? |
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greiner3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
70. Japan's official reason for gathering whale meat? |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
92. why is ANYONE allowed to kill whales in a designated whale sanctuary? |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. As someone posted above... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:51 PM Response to Reply #95 |
107. Deleted message |
Rigby Reardon (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
99. I am so tired of the GodDamned |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:14 PM Response to Reply #99 |
110. If I may, a belated welcome to DU. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:05 AM Response to Reply #99 |
166. Other posts from you make me skeptic of that. |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #99 |
167. we refer to this in the DU game as "building up credibility" |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:23 AM Response to Reply #99 |
170. Was this *during* your stint at the NSA? |
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Clara T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
104. Paul Watson is the best |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
108. Common Sense |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:25 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. Surplus deck gun? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. The last time |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #116 |
121. Good points, but they raise questions |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:02 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. Boat |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #125 |
130. Jeebus, what race was that? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #130 |
135. I thought |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:30 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. The boat in the Sea Shepherd confrontation |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:33 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Hey I hate to quibble (well not really, but I don't want to do it to you) |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. "Sideswipe" can imply intent |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:57 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Okay, cool. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #114 |
127. Farley Mowat sideswiped "allegedly"?? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:22 PM Response to Reply #127 |
132. I wasn't there, and as I stated in another post |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:28 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. Deleted sub-thread |
Centered (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 02:29 AM Response to Reply #108 |
161. agree |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
118. Article today in the Canberra Times |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #118 |
123. Excellent post! |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
131. Regardless of the whaling issue, Sea Shepherd is not very credible.. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. . |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #131 |
134. And the truth is...? |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. You're not interested in the truth. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:37 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. Ooooh, a strawman post! How original. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:52 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. Hardly |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:00 AM Response to Reply #141 |
143. Eh, to be honest |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:06 AM Response to Reply #143 |
145. Thankyou |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:09 AM Response to Reply #145 |
147. And, if I come to find that out, I will. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:23 AM Response to Reply #147 |
151. It's easy to find the informati on on it if you're interested... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:44 AM Response to Reply #151 |
157. Efford? You're kidding. Pleae tell me you're kidding. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 01:13 AM Response to Reply #157 |
160. See "credibility problem for Sea Shepherd" post below... |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:51 PM Response to Reply #131 |
140. "very" is a relative term- looks like they're credible enough for the NEWS |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:00 AM Response to Reply #140 |
142. In regards to the Sea Shepherd press release I linked no, they are not. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:06 AM Response to Reply #142 |
144. In that case, to prove relativity, |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:07 AM Response to Reply #144 |
146. Well it would have to be somebody who's never misinterpreted a political |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #146 |
148. you see right through me |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #146 |
153. How do you misinterpret a factual situation? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:36 AM Response to Reply #153 |
155. Because reasons for political retirements (or political anything) |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:36 AM Response to Reply #144 |
154. Most groups don't purposely lie. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:39 AM Response to Reply #154 |
156. I look forward to your non-partisan links. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #140 |
208. don't link Greenpeace to this |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
150. And with this post, right now |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
159. The credibility problem for Sea Shepherd and Captain Watson. |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 03:01 AM Response to Reply #159 |
162. Stress worsens diabetes |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #162 |
163. What "controversy"? |
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oneoftheboys (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
164. One thread says the Greenpeace ship hit the Japanese ship... |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:03 AM Response to Reply #164 |
165. In the case of "Sea Shepherd" though there's no question...eco-terrorists. |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #165 |
209. terrorist / environmental protection is not in the same category |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
169. Interesting thread. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #169 |
193. I wouldn't risk thier lives to stop them. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #193 |
207. So you've bought into the shipping org's propaganda, eh? |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
171. Activists 'may put lives at risk' |
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the other one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #171 |
172. From the Sea Shephard |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 12:53 PM Response to Reply #172 |
201. Farley Mowat |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #171 |
173. if they're illegally whaling then they put their own lives at risk |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #173 |
176. Nobody but Sea Shepherd has said they're illegally whaling. n/t |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #176 |
183. well they are out there, and we are here |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #183 |
186. Yeah. And if you were against abortion... |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #171 |
174. "can opener" |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #174 |
177. That was not the same ship. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #177 |
182. Yes, it was Greenpeace ship that claims to have been rammed. pic |
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Clara T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #171 |
175. "eco-terrorist" |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #175 |
178. Sorry, I think "enviro-terrorist" is what I meant. n/t |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #178 |
179. Then why did you say "eco-terrorist"? |
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Clara T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #178 |
181. Same thing |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #181 |
185. Whatever. How about just "terrorist" then? |
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Clara T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #185 |
187. Paul Watson |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #185 |
188. so we should just let them harvest whatever they want |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:31 AM Response to Reply #188 |
192. Do not misrepresent what I have said. |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #192 |
194. not misrepresenting |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #171 |
180. Calling a Progressive an "eco-terrorist" is the tactic of Extremist Right. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:30 AM Response to Reply #180 |
191. Is that what a "progressive" is to you? Someone who threatens lives? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:42 AM Response to Reply #191 |
196. Deleted message |
Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #196 |
198. Ok, let's assume the "can opener" is not a threat to people |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #198 |
206. Look. |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #191 |
210. RW straw man techniques are weak ! PROGRESSIVE thinkers see right thru |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #171 |
184. Sorry, with 6 billion humans on this Earth |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #184 |
189. The population of this particular species of whale... |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #189 |
190. I haven't heard that, looking for info myself.... |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:40 AM Response to Reply #189 |
195. reduced krill populations endanger all whales |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 11:03 AM Response to Reply #195 |
200. I agree. |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #200 |
211. Sure it is Buddy ! got any better ideas about what to Do?--interference IS |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
197. Press release: Sea Shepherd intends to ram and disable pirate whalers |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
199. A whale of a story going ignored |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
202. New blog entry: 10 January 2006 |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
203. NZ Herald: Japan may use 'military' on Greenpeace |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #203 |
204. Oh that's just great. |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
205. NZ air force monitoring Japanese whaling |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
212. Lock |
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