U.S. forces aim to bring Iraq police under control

[sabra]

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L29252025.htm

U.S. forces aim to bring Iraq police under control


BAGHDAD, Dec 29 (Reuters) - The U.S. army in Baghdad plans to deploy large numbers of troops with Iraqi special police units to try to curb suspected sectarian militia activity among the police, a senior U.S. military official said on Thursday.

"We're going to try to wrap ourselves around them," the official told reporters, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"The lines are blurred now and it's not easy to determine that some operation tonight was directed ... by the MoI (Interior Ministry) or ... by some people in uniform ... who are part of somebody's posse," he said.

"We're trying to control that."

[stop the bleeding]

1. good luck with that

[saigon68]

2. "We're going to try to wrap ourselves around them,

[cantstandbush]

3. Does this mean Iraqi police=insurgents? n/t

[sabra]

5. they like to call them "militia forces"....

[Hobarticus]

4. When you can no longer control the controllers...

It's over.

[VegasWolf]

6. Boy, that sure sounds like a textbook definition of "quagmire." nt

:bounce:

[DemonFighterLives]

7. Bad move to get in the middle of Iraqi's units

I don't know who these military officials are, but they are nuts. It is not that Iraqi's wouldn't be trustworthy, but we have destroyed so much around them, even a good policeman could go bad at any moment. The lines of good and bad are too blurred and "our" military dreams are not what theirs are.
:hide:

[aquart]

8. Are they insane?

We're the last people to do that job.

We aren't their rescuers. We are their invaders.

[Barrett808]

9. US army aims to clean up Iraqi police

US army aims to clean up Iraqi police
By Alastair Macdonald

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The U.S. army in Baghdad plans to deploy large numbers of troops with Iraqi special police units to try to curb suspected sectarian militia activity among the police, a senior U.S. military official said on Thursday.

"We're going to try to wrap ourselves around them," the official told reporters, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"The lines are blurred now and it's not easy to determine that some operation tonight was directed ... by the MoI (Interior Ministry) or ... by some people in uniform ... who are part of somebody's posse," he said.

"We're trying to control that."

Strained relations between U.S. forces and Iraq's Interior Ministry were highlighted last month when American troops found dozens of abused Sunni Arab prisoners at a secret ministry site in Baghdad.

(more)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051229/ts_nm/iraq_police_dc

[HuffleClaw]

10. but but but

they said it was rousing success! freedom on the march, the election a smashing success!

[stop the bleeding]

11. U.S. to Intensify Army Oversight of Iraqi Police

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Dec. 29 - American commanders are planning to increase significantly the number of soldiers advising Iraqi police commando units, in part to curtail abuse that the units are suspected of inflicting on Sunni Arabs, a senior commander in Iraq said Thursday.

Under the plan, which, the officer said, he expects will be formally approved in a few weeks, the number of advisers working with the Iraqi units would be greatly expanded. The advisers themselves would be under the command of American officers.

American advisers now accompany commando units as part of the vast effort to train and equip security forces to take over the fight against the insurgency and to maintain order.

But the number of advisers is relatively small: currently, groups of about 40 American soldiers each are attached to seven of the nine special Iraqi police brigades.

read more here:

12/30/2005 U.S. to Intensify Army Oversight of Iraqi Police-DEXTER FILKINS - nytimes.com

[HysteryDiagnosis]

12. I suppose this fits right in with the intensification of the bombing

campaign... how nice... how appropriate. I'm impressed.

[stop the bleeding]

13. the real question is - How does this work towards us drawing down troops

when the Iraqi Security Forces can not hold their own.


Give Mommy a Kiss....."

[HysteryDiagnosis]

14. Could you wholeheartedly go to Arizona and fight your American

kinfolk effectively and without reservation?? I couldn't.

[stop the bleeding]

15. or the other side of the coin that we are seeing, Are there other people

that you "fighting in Arizona" would love to see gone/killed.


Give Mommy a Kiss....."

[HysteryDiagnosis]

17. So it's not a country. It's three countries. Article....

repeat I know... but it applies just the same.


http://www.chris-floyd.com/Fallujah/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=315&Itemid=1
Death Mask: The Deliberate Disintegration of Iraq
Thursday, 01 December 2005
This is an extended version of a column appearing in the Dec. 2 edition of The Moscow Times.

The recent revelations about the virulent spread of death squads ravaging Iraq have only confirmed for many people the lethal incompetence of the Bush Regime, whose brutal bungling appears to have unleashed the demon of sectarian strife in the conquered land. The general reaction, even among some war supporters, has been bitter derision: "Jeez, these bozos couldn't boil an egg without causing collateral damage."

But what if the truth is even more sinister? What if this murderous chaos is not the fruit of rank incompetence but instead the desired product of carefully crafted, efficiently managed White House policy?

[0007]

16. This is so yesterday! The British tried the same strategy in the

twenties.

....Many of the Iraqi commando units are thought to be filled by gunmen drawn from the military wings of Shiite political parties, including the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, or Sciri, which forms part of the Shiite coalition that is expected to lead the next government. The Mahdi Army, a militia run by the rebel cleric Moktada al-Sadr, is also believed to have hundreds of gunmen working in the Iraqi police and commando units.

As a result, the units, which are ostensibly under the control of the Interior Ministry, are thought to be all but indistinguishable from Sciri's militia, known as the Badr Brigade, and from the Mahdi Army.

American officials say it is unclear whom the units are taking orders from, the ministry or militia commanders. The minister of the interior, Bayan Jabr, is a senior member of the Badr Brigade.

Talk about the beginning of a real custer fuck...and grabbing at the last straw of hope, this is it.

[bemildred]

18. The Iraqmire continues to circle the drain,

nobody quite knowing when the final descent will occur ...

[Roland99]

19. According to FAUX Spews, it's a "New Era in Iraq" >>>>

From tickers I saw at lunch (yes, it was hard to keep from bringing it back up)


7,300 Iraqi police are being trained
2,700 Iraqi security forces are being trained.


A whopping 11,000 security/police forces! Wow! The insurgents are a-shakin' in their combat boots!