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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 09:30 PM
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Effort to ban gay marriage (in CA) falls short of signatures
Effort to ban gay marriage falls short of signatures

By Harrison Sheppard, Sacramento Bureau
LA Daily News

SACRAMENTO - Backers of a proposed ballot measure to ban gay marriage and domestic partnerships said they failed to collect enough signatures by a Tuesday deadline to put the issue before voters.

Supported by a coalition of family-values groups and Republican legislators called ProtectMarriage.com, the measure sought to ban marriage between same-sex couples as well as roll back existing laws recognizing domestic partnerships.

Proponents had to gather nearly 600,000 signatures by Tuesday to be placed on the ballot, but realized last week they had fallen about 200,000 short of the mark.

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The other group pushing for a gay marriage ban, VoteYesMarriage.com is continuing to move forward with fundraising and preparations for a signature drive. Randy Thomasson, one of the organizers, said backers will not begin collecting signatures until they have the necessary funds in place, and are hoping to place it on the November 2006 ballot, though it could be later. That measure goes further in seeking to restrict some of the mandatory benefits awarded by the state to domestic partnerships.

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Harrison Sheppard, (916)446-6723 harrison.sheppard@dailynews.com

http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_3348727
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 09:32 PM
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1. If I may be the first...

HA-HA!

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pro_blue_guy Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 09:35 PM
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3. DItto!
HA-HA!!!


I don't get why these groups call themselve "family values" when they are opposed to letting two people come together to form a family! Oxymoronic, if you ask me!
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 09:35 PM
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4. With a comment like that,
you may certainly be the first! :bounce:
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 09:35 PM
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2. Ever drop one?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 09:37 PM
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5. I'm so sick of these idiotic
ballot measures that they keep trying (and sometimes succeeding) to put on our ballots! :mad:
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:36 AM
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12. Which is why is some States so-called ballot initiatives are prohibited
.
Which is why is some States so-called ballot initiatives are prohibited . . . because there's a viable possibility that ballot initiatives concentrate too much power in too few people, and that it is all too easy to buy your way into making new state laws or state constitutional amendments, as well as it is a go-around to the people's elected legislative body.

State ballot initiatives should be dumped in all States, period.
.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:22 AM
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13. I agree
I wish they would get rid of them entirely. I think they are used just about totally by special interest groups to promote wedge issues and get their voters churned up and out to the polls. x(
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 09:42 PM
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6. CO's is starting in 2 weeks
It just may get enough signaturers..We need 65,000
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 09:58 PM
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7. Schwartzeneger needs the voter turn out so
if they can it'll be on the ballot in November
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:11 PM
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8. Would it be at all possible (non resident question)
For the Calleeforneeuh voters to start a ballot initiative and obtain sufficient signatures to bring before the voters a law banning any further such BS for at least a dozen years? A ballot initiative banning gay ballot initiatives--preemptive strikes do sometimes work!
Cut 'em off at the pass!
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 12:01 AM
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10. No, but there have been suggestions
that before a ballot initiative makes it to the poll, that a judge would determine its merit. After all, many measures that do pass are then thrown out by the court, as was Prop. 187 some 10 years ago (I think) that was anti immigrants (illegal, but still was as racist as it came).

What I don't understand is, in 2000 a similar ballot measure did pass; I do not remember the specifics, might have been that a marriage is only between a man and a woman. So I don't understand why they keep coming. And I think that Californians are just sick and tired of this. At least, most Californians are level headed who don't want to be bothered by such nonsense.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:31 PM
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9. This is funny
I never saw anyone collecting signatures for this. I was sort of hoping I would run into one of these cretins so I could really trash them out but never saw them.

Maybe they all moved to Alabama.


Mz Pip (happily in CA)
:dem:
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 12:03 AM
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11. It is funny that we see Alabama as the opposite of
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:05 AM
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14. good. ignorant bastards.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 07:54 AM
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15. In other news,
efforts to ban Catholicism from Rome failed.

Let me join the Nelson-y HA-HA choir. :evilgrin:
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