U.S. puts sanctions on Chinese firms for aiding Tehran

[rainbow4321]

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051227-124948-5253r.htm

Several Chinese companies involved in selling missile goods and chemical-arms materials to Iran have been hit with U.S. sanctions, Bush administration officials said yesterday.

The sanctions cover six Chinese government-run companies, two Indian firms and one Austrian company, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The penalties, which will last until December 2007, bar the companies from doing business with the U.S. government and prohibit U.S. firms from obtaining export licenses to sell sensitive products to these companies. The details of the transfers to Iran were not disclosed.

The Chinese companies involved in the transfers are the China National Aerotechnology Import Export Corp., known as CATIC; the missile exporter China North Industries Corp., known as NORINCO; Zibo Chemet Equipment Co.; the Hongdu Aviation Industry Group; Ounion International Economic and Technical Cooperative Ltd.; and the Limmt Metallurgy and Minerals Co. The officials said that three of the Chinese companies have been sanctioned in the past for illicit arms transfers -- CATIC, NORINCO and Zibo.

[pinniped]

1. Since * is such a tough-guy, why not really get tough...

and ban the importation of all Chinese goods until 2007.

That will teach them Tehran missile/chemical selling commies.

Didn't think so.

[rainbow4321]

2. That would take care of the war on Xmas

Cuz we would have to cancel it altogether!


http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/GL23Cb01.html

While Santa Claus lives it up with Rudolph at the North Pole, his elves have relocated to southern China's towns and villages.

Some 70% of the world's Christmas ornaments and other paraphernalia now originate in officially atheist mainland China. Tinsel, Santas, mistletoe and artificial trees of every shape and hue are churned out at a relentless pace by thousands of factory workers in Guangdong, Zhejiang and Jiangsu provinces.

According to the China General Administration of customs, Guangdong on its own exported more than US$620 million worth of Christmas products in 2004. For the country as a whole, the figure was over $1 billion.

Even the White House now celebrates a "Made in China" Christmas. In 2003, seven of the trees adorning the US president's residence were manufactured in China. In fact more than two-thirds of the world's artificial Christmas trees are made in the single city of Shenzhen.

[orleans]

3. no can do. china is the second largest holder of u.s. debt

all they have to do is call it home and we are screwed.

hello china? yes, this is the united states. we'd like to help you out in your sale of weapons to Tehran. what else would you like us to do for you? chemical weapons? sure, no problem. would you like fries with that?

[mrcheerful]

4. I been saying since 2000 that dealing with China we

were providing the money to support terrorism and for 5 years all I heard was oh no Chinas our friend, they don't do things like that. Well happy wal mart shopping to you freepers out there, your supporting terrorist after all.

[Toots]

5. What BS

China is supporting another country that is trying to set up defenses against American invasion. Iran has never attacked America or any other country. Not a single person of the nineteen terrorists of 9-11 were Iranian or Iraqi. Fifteen were Saudi but Saudi Arabia is our friend....America is the world threat here and there is absolutely no question about it. America is currently terrorising the world and the world is shuddering.

[ckramer]

6. For today's low wages working class if they don't go to Walmart

where would they go? People shopping at Walmart are mostly poor/lower middle class folks, and you called them supporting terrorists, that's nice.

[anotherdrew]

7. how about they stay home and read a damn book

[0007]

12. You mean a picture book, don't you?

[anotherdrew]

13. I supose I do. Maybe they could start where I did, "Old hat, new hat"

pictures AND words

seriously tho... too many people use shopping as a form of entertainment, buying shit they don't need or really even want when the money should be saved. Sure, sure, I'm sure in some areas wal-mart is the only remaining business and the only place to buy food. Whatever, I'd say move the hell out of that hell hole at that point.

[SOS]

8. Cheney violated US sanctions

to allow Haliburton to do business with Iran and Libya in the 1990s. He simply set up a paper subsidiary in the Caribbean.
These companies can do the same and be back in business by next week.
This is assuming they even do business with the US.
Either way it's empty posturing.

[Yavin4]

9. Foreign Policy and National Security Is A High Risk Game of Chess

Too bad we have a leader who thinks that this is a game of marbles.

[Vinca]

10. King George better be careful. Beijing might cut up his credit card. nt

[kineneb]

11. Ja, sure, George...

and next you bite the hand that feeds you. How shall we count the ways that China is proping up our economy? They are a major holder of our debt, practically everything we purchase is manufactured there, etc. So George, hollow words and posturing again, hmmm?

[Supersedeas]

14. you are either for us or against us...unless you are China then state run

companies are isolated from the rest of the state run industries that we depend on.

[Judi Lynn]

15. US punishes firms for Iran sales

Last Updated: Wednesday, 28 December 2005, 00:21 GMT

US punishes firms for Iran sales

The US is keen to stop other states aiding Iran's weapons programmes
The US has imposed sanctions on nine foreign companies, six of them Chinese, for allegedly selling missile goods and chemical arms material to Iran.

A US State Department spokesman said the measures were based on "credible evidence" but gave no details.

The US will not provide export licences to the firms involved, two of them Indian and one Austrian, and has banned the US government trading with them.

China has in the past denied selling weapons-related material to Iran.
(snip/...)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4563214.stm



The Iranian leader our right-wingers
really loved and cherished. Ya gotta
wear a crown, and serve U.S. interests.

[Oversea Visitor]

16. Haha

Empty words. World dont give a shit, those countries squeeze back bush balls goes splaaaaaat.

[sasha031]

17. I am not an expert

but isn't a little late, isn't China carrying billions of our debt?

[daleanime]

18. Quiet.

Your not to tell anyone. If we don't think about it maybe it will go away.

[Oversea Visitor]

19. It is too late

America appear strong but is a weaklings.
America can't survive an economic sanction
America is dependent on the world to continue its profiteerings, everything outsource. The same corporations will sell America down the drain for profit.

America has turn into a parasite on this world.
Only thing to sell under bush SNAKE OIL
Freedom, Liberty, Democracy.

Damn it invest in your own country
Build back up your economy
This means a healthy consumer market
This means jobs so people got money to spend
This means protecting your local business.

WTF Tax break to corporation making profit
WTF Tax break to the super rich.

Ownership society :rofl:
You need money to buy stuff to owner you dumb chimp

[sakabatou]

20. Ah... but haven't we sold some weapons to Iran ourselves

Or am I confused?

[NewJeffCT]

25. nope, not confused at all

Halliburton did it in the 90s, the Reagan White House did it in the 80s. Republicans love Iran!

[Tom Joad]

21. So are they finally going to go after the Reagan administration??

[Matilda]

22. Anybody checked out Halliburton lately?

President Bush might do well to do a little reading about their
activities.


http://www.squall.co.uk/squall.cfm/ses/sq=2003103001/ct=2


But of course, there's one rule for Bush and his friends, and another
for everybody else.

[cliss]

23. Ahhhhh yes, the Peacock Throne.

That is our lovely Shah of Iran. That is his lovely wife, Farah Diba. We all know what happened to this lovely couple. They were ousted. Guess who took their place? That old sourpuss, the Ayatollah Khomeini. It seems that the Shah just kissed American butts and refused to listen to his own people, and they got pissed. There was a revolution, and he got thrown out. He died in Panama of cancer shortly thereafter.

So it goes to show you, the U.S. is not always the winner. In fact, we're often the loser in skirmishes like this.

[MrPrax]

24. Blowing smoke...

Trying to remember the last time I heard about "Republicans" and "Iranian arms sales"...

[HuffleClaw]

26. "credible evidence" ?

"credible evidence"? yes, we've all seen plenty of examples of what they consider 'credible evidence'. they simply have no credibility left so they are doing what all bullies do, striking out blindly at those around them. such actions will win them no friends.

[Supersedeas]

27. Do we rate any kind of elaboration from our Sec. of State?

[goforit]

28. NYT- U.S. to Punish 9 Companies Said to Help Iran on Arms

Ooops!...the Link....
<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/28/international/asia/28china.html?pagewanted=all>

"U.S. to Punish 9 Companies Said to Help Iran on Arms"
By DAVID E. SANGER
Published: December 28, 2005

"CRAWFORD, Tex., Dec. 27 - The Bush administration announced new sanctions on Tuesday against state-owned Chinese companies that it accused of aiding Iran's missile and chemical programs, insisting that Beijing cut off the trade at a time when Mr. Bush is trying to persuade China's leaders to condemn Tehran's nuclear program.

The sanctions, announced by the State Department, are part of a diplomatically complex effort to cut off the flow of technology into Iran that could aid its weapons programs, while pressing both China and Russia to threaten action against Tehran at the United Nations Security Council.

Included in the latest sanctions, first reported Tuesday by The Washington Times, are two companies closely tied to the Chinese military: the China North Industries Corporation, known as Norinco, and the China Aero-Technology Import and Export Corporation, or Catic, which is one of the country's largest producers of military aircraft.

The sanctions will have little practical effect on most of the nine companies cited, including two Indian companies and one Austrian one that makes assault rifles and other small arms. The Chinese companies are already barred from doing business with the United States.

con't............"

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Oh the hypocrasy of it all!!!!

Poppy Bush financed the Nuclear Plant that is in Iran today.
I believe it is called the Busher Plant(Probably conveniently called this after you know who).

Hmmmmm.....Will GWB also proclaim his father as being quilty as well?
How much via the Iran Contra sales were exchanged between the US and
Iran?

The good thing about the US attempting to bring this out in the open
is the fact that it will un-earth all the skeletons from the IRAN-CONTRA
affair and expose dear old Daddy.

So what the hell....bring it on!!!

[havocmom]

29. This would be a good time for that pic of Rumsfeld & Saddam

:evilgrin:

Hey, that Dutch guy who did biddness with Saddam got prison. When does Rumsfeld go to the Hague?

[sasha031]

30. isn't a little foolish of them to be pissing off China

It would take how long for China to collapse our economy.

What pisses me off frat boy has left us in such a vulnerable spot with China.

[Deja Q]

32. You mean 'vulnerable', surely?

A trend Nixon started, but EVERY president since has worsened. With reagan and Clinton being the worst offenders, I sure as hell wouldn't grant China the MFN status... Chances are, India has a MFN status too.

China need do little more than demand the money it's put into our economy back. They know they can't keep getting our jobs; we're going to run out. Even microsoft pissed them off by offshoring "fewer jobs than expected".

Still, when you go treating with the enemy, you cannot expect them to play good.

Corporate america has fucked up big time. Trading with a country the US has considered very unfriendly for decades while pissing on their own countrymen in the process. With judges siding with corporations too, the middle class must be seen really poorly, and the poor even worse.

:shrug:

[NanceGreggs]

31. Let's not forget ...

... Halliburton selling oil field equipment to Iraq during the sanctions, while Cheney was in charge. It was sold through Halliburton-owned and controlled 'off-shore' offices -- which consisted of post office boxes in various countries ...

[goforit]

34. BINGO!!!!.......Time to sanction Haliburton!!!!

[bemildred]

33. "sanctions will have little practical effect on ... the nine companies"

So, fundamentally, this is another stupid bluff. Posturing in an attempt to fake some pressure on Iran. Never mind that insulting China in this way will - in reality - only strengthen Iran's position, we have to look tough.

[Roland99]

35. This won't unearth anything. The M$M is too worried about recapping Aruba

as the end of the year approaches.

[acmavm]

36. I'm sure the Chinese are shaking in their boots. n/t

[lovuian]

37. Its Ok for Poppy Bush to help Iran but not China Its ok for Halliburton

to help Iran but not China...

:crazy:

[rainbow4321]

39. An American company is helping with the India/Iran oil deal

But somehow I don't see chimp going after them..

http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=203654&cat=Business

India and Iran Wednesday began their ongoing dialogue to reach a consensus on the technical, legal and commercial aspects of the ambitions tri-nation $7 billion gas pipeline project

"Pipeline projects normally have a life of 30 years so we hope for a 30-year agreement, which may have inbuilt provisions for taking care of escalation and project cost recovery," a senior official told IANS.

A joint statement issued by India-Pakistan at the end of bilateral talks held earlier this month has envisaged that the first tripartite meeting is likely to be held in February 2006 in Tehran to address issues relating to the project including finalising a project structure and the framework agreement.

While Iran has submitted part of its BHP Billiton pre-feasibility report to India, New Delhi has forwarded the draft recommendations of its financial consultant Ernst & Young on the project structure to Tehran.

[rainbow4321]

38. India objects to US sanctions against Indian companies

http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=204066&cat=Business

Asserting its non-proliferation credentials, India Wednesday strongly objected to imposition of sanctions by the US government against two Indian companies for supplying chemicals to Iran.

"The sanctions imposed by the US government on the two Indian firms relate to transfer of some chemicals to Iran. Our preliminary assessment is that the transfer of such chemicals is not in violation of our regulations or our international obligations," external affairs ministry spokesperson Navtej Sarna told reporters here

The move was reminiscent of the imposition of sanctions by the US state department in September last year against two Indian scientists -- C. Surendar and Y.S.R Prasad - for allegedly selling missile technology to Iran.

Reacting to these "unjustified" sanctions, the Indian government stressed on its impeccable track record in non-proliferation - a point Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has been making since the historic India-US civil nuclear cooperation agreement.

[lovuian]

40. India & China are getting the warning backoff boys...

China & India need oil and lots of it... why would they want to hurt that!!!