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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:06 PM
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Senator says she's asked for opinions on Bush impeachment (Boxer)
Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 06:09 PM by sabra

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Senator_says_shes_asked_for_opinions_1219.html

Senator says she's asked for opinions on Bush impeachment

Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) has become the first in the Senate to raise consideration of impeachment of President George W. Bush for authorizing spying on Americans without warrants, RAW STORY has learned.

In a release issued this evening, Boxer said she's asked "four presidential scholars" for their opinion on impeachment after former White Housel counsel John Dean -- made famous by his role in revealing the Watergate tapes -- asserted that President Bush had 'admitted' to an 'impeachable offense.'

Boxer isn't the first congressmember today to float the word. Earlier today, Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) said Bush should be impeached if he broke the law in the spying program. The liberal California senator has tangled with Bush before -- earlier this year, she challenged the president's Ohio electoral votes.


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:07 PM
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1. Go, Senator! We're behind you! nt
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:20 PM
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10. Boxer/Conyers 2008!
Pelosi 2007!
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:08 PM
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2. my unscholarly opinion. he is a criminal. impeach him and then
send him to the hague for war crimes.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:10 PM
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3. It's working folks - keep repeating it...
Visualize IMPEACHMENT.

NGU.


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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:10 PM
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4. Hooray!
It begins!

:applause:

:hi:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:11 PM
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5. Impeach bu$h and jail WHIG.
please please please
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:11 PM
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6. I've never been prouder to be a constituent of Sen. Boxer!
Keep speaking TRUTH to power, Senator -- You have my vote FOREVER!
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:35 PM
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28. 2nd. n/t
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secretmouse Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:16 PM
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36. Barbara is my Hero!
...and has been for a long time..this lady has guts!...and she speaks FOR us..not politically correct babble!
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:48 AM
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51. May I suggest that you share this sentiment with Senator Boxer?
I just called the offices of my two Senators, Byrd and Rockefeller, to convey my approval and support for their courageous stand against this fascist cartel.

It really encourages them to get support in times like these, especially from constituents.

http://www.senate.gov/
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:12 PM
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7. I love this lady.
Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 06:12 PM by Tiggeroshii
One of the best Senators there!

And she's one of my Senator's too! :D

:loveya:

:yourock:
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:22 PM
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11. I'm going to love seeing her face televised from the Oval Office
starting in January 2009. I have long admired her boldness.

And :blush: I think she's very pretty too.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:24 PM
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14. I loves her too!
So proud to have her representing me!
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 02:05 PM
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57. yup, she's our CA senator--the best!
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:14 PM
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8. Barbara, you are beautiful. Thank you. n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:18 PM
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9. Bush committed high crimes by flaunting his disregard for the law
By his own public admission, Bush has claimed that he can ignore the Constitution, Congress, and the courts on the basis of being Fuehrer, i.e., Commander in Chief.

Bush and Cheney should both be impeached! Dennis Hastert will become President until elections in 2008.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:23 PM
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13. The impeachment may take a while.
I've been saying for a long time that he'll be out by August 2006. It might actually be better though if it happens in January 2007, so we can have Acting President Pelosi.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:23 PM
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12. Kicked, nominated, saluted...
...I have the feeling that THIS Christmas, Junior has more than visions of sugar plums dancing in his head.



:evilgrin:
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:33 PM
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15. You are wrong about the sugar plums...It's Gannon dancing in his head.
n/t
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:34 PM
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16. The Boxer Rebellion is back on
:loveya:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:44 PM
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17. Applauding wildly.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:46 PM
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18. So what did the scholars say? n/t
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:31 PM
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25. She has just written to the scholars today -
it could take a 'while' for them to get back to her. Their names/careers/livelihoods are on the line. Let's hope it is all so obvious that they all FEDEX their letters to her today so they will be there by 10 am tomorrow -

:kick:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:09 PM
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33. good for her for getting this information.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:47 PM
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19. My Senator Boxer just plain ROCKS!
Oh how I love this woman and her courage and ability to cut right to the heart of things. Barbara Boxer you are a role model of the best of politics and the absolute BEST! I *Heart* Boxer! :loveya:
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 06:50 PM
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20. Thank you, Senator Boxer! n/t
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:05 PM
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21. We need to offer the Clinton litmus test:
If Clinton did it, would the Repubs be outraged and demanding impeachment?

Damn right they would, and justifiably so. No man is above the law of this land. Neither is any chimp.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:09 PM
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22. gee I wonder what Hil would say?
Go Barbara!!! :yourock:
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secretmouse Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:22 PM
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37. Hil Better Watch out!
...while she's playing politics, Senator Boxer is taking the fight to the Repugs..oh, if only all of our Dem reps had her guts! We could wipe the floor with the Repugs.

I've been disappointed by Hillary these past months..playing it safe...while Bush destroys our country!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:25 PM
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38. Welcome to DU secretmouse!
:yourock:
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secretmouse Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:45 PM
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40. Right back at you Leftchick!
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chiffon Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:24 PM
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23. Give Senator Boxer your feedback asap!
I am glad that Rawstory had a lead on this story, however, a direct 'feedback' link is what is in order.

Her sight is gathering the "PEOPLE's" response and is a direct channel for feedback to this VERY important issue.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5639805

or (click) directly to her feedback link:

http://boxer.senate.gov/news/record.cfm?id=249975

Peace People, (as in WE the people)

chiffon
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:34 PM
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27. email and voice mail full, left a request! LOL Simple impeachment
proceeding announcement to my son. Suggest anyone else interested in contacting her tonight to do the same.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:37 PM
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43. I just tried... chose 'domestic spying' as the topic
and put Impeachment in the subject line. When I submitted, got the message 'issues out of synch.'

I live in Illinois so maybe the site is geared to only accept email from constituents?
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:12 PM
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45. I did the same thing, but my message was accepted
I do live in California. I am so proud of my senator tonight!

:woohoo:
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:17 AM
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48. Done!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:27 PM
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24. Well don't just stand there damn it! Git busy!
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:33 PM
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26. Good for Senator Boxer for speaking out!!! She got my support!
:toast:
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:56 PM
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29. Kick!!! - Recommended - Impeach Now!
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:03 PM
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30. While incompetence is not an enumerated ground for impeachment
as a practical matter I do not see how the US, right and left, and can take 3 more years of this fuck up.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:07 PM
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31. and good for Rep. John Lewis (D-GA)


Boxer isn't the first congressmember today to float the word. Earlier today, Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) said Bush should be impeached if he broke the law in the spying program. The liberal California senator has tangled with Bush before -- earlier this year, she challenged the president's Ohio electoral vot
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:07 PM
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32. I love seeing the word IMPEACHMENT
especially in LBN headlines!!!

:bounce:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:12 PM
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34. Over the weekend, usregimechange sponsored a thread
to write our reps. Many of us emailed Barbara.

You might consider sending the same message.

Thank you, usregimechange. :toast:
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:13 PM
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35. What's to opine about it?
Of course he admitted to an impeachable offense.

He just knows that the votes aren't there because
he has a supine Congress.

That could change next year though.

Hopefully.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:26 PM
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39. I love Senator Boxer so much that I named my dog after her:
Senator "Spike" Boxer (OK, I adopted with the name "Spike", but my friends and I often call him Senator Boxer)


And oh yea.....kicked and rec'd!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:22 PM
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41. Great God Almighty! Kick This Thread to the Very Top Where it Belongs!
Kicking, nominating!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:29 PM
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42. Impeach the rat bastard! NOW!
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: Barbara rocks!

Peace.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:44 PM
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44. It is about time!
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 02:48 AM
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46. I called her earlier
and the nice lady answering the phone said it has not stopped ringing since Friday. I did mention impeachment and she said that people were expressing that sentiment today. :woohoo:

BTW I contact Feinstein too. Her office said that she is very concerned in light of this new information and is looking to investigate. FWIW, if you have the time call your Senators and let them know that you expect them to investigate this. I know some of you have pukes for Senators but it doesn't hurt to call them and make them pick a side (our side) NOW.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:57 AM
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47. Well, you're all fools for believing this - will never happen
we're all over in the GD/GDP forums crying about how we'll never cast our vote for any Democrat who ever once voted against an issue we believe in and more notably the DLC democrats.

Guess what - no majority - no impeachment

It's a shame because Boxer is the woman who has the moxie to get the ball rolling. But with Frist (or his replacement) running the senate and Hasert running the House she might as well stand on her head and sing Dixie backwards for all the good it will do.

Now more than ever: DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY

My vote in 2006 isn't for Tom Carper, DLC Democrat from Delaware - it's for Harry Reid, Senate Majority Chairman
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:21 AM
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49. But it's good that the IDEA of Impeachment is out there....
I'm sure the concept won't make Bushies handlers happy.
'
And it's surely extra incentive to get good Democrats elected in 2006.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 08:21 AM
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50. It's an extra incentive to get DEMOCRATS elected in 2006
We have the primaries to fight for the good democrats but when the general election comes around we need EVERYONE to vote for their democratic candidates even if they're in Connecticut and stuck with Joe Lieberman.

Surely Lieberman won't support impeaching Bush but he will support Harry Reid as the Majority Leader.

We just want the majority and we can do wonders from there. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have EARNED MY TRUST and that trust means I'll vote for my DLC senator because I want Reid & Pelosi in charge (I live in Delaware and Tom Carper, DLC Vice-Chair is up for re-election)
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:22 AM
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52. the I word is being bandied about in Whorington
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:42 PM
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54. I haven't heard that name for DC. I love it! nt
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:39 PM
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53. Whether or not an action is an Impeachable Offense is up to WE THE PEOPLE


Delighted that she's putting out feelers, but there is no legalistic test that defines whether or not an offense is an Impeachable offense.

As the Republicans found out, an action that may be "technically' illegal is NOT an Impeachable Offense unless the people view the action as an intolerable abuse of power.

On the other hand, if the public considers an action to be an intolerable abuse of power, that action is an Impeachable Offense, whether or not it is a violation of written law.

If the electorate demanded Impeachment for "negligent, stupid, mismanagement of a war", then Bush and Cheney could be charged with that “high crime” in the Articles of Impeachment.

It's all about political will. And political will is driven by citizen action. It is up to us.

Our representatives can look to the law for guidance, but they are not limited by the letter of the law. They can look to past Impeachments, but they are not bound by precedence. No "technical' interpretation of the law can trump the will of the people.

Demanding Impeachment is a short hand for all the stages. The first step is an Impeachment Inquiry. Clearly, we have sufficient evidence of wrong-doing to demand an Impeachment Inquiry.

Bush and Cheney have given us much to choose from. They have done things that are prohibited by law (malum prohibitum -- e.g., violating our laws against torture and laws against warrantless domestic spying). They have also committed offenses that are wrong on their face (malum in se -- e.g., "Lying a nation into war," "making boom threats" and "terrorizing the American people with threats of a mushroom cloud in 45 minutes."

There is no doubt that we have cause to move forward, even if all we look no farther than the information already in the public domain (e.g. the documents and analysis in Hoodwinked provide the grounds for a dozen articles).
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:51 PM
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55. Boxer needs to petition US citizens to impeach * ass.
Hell if Swartzeneger can be petitioned to for an early election,

We as Americans can advance a new election as well!!!!

This is a Banana Republic now....ain't it???
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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:51 PM
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56. But Bush has not lied about having sex with an intern...
Would someone please give him a blow job so we can impeach this fool!
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