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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:08 AM
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Iran president: Islam is the solution

http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20051215-104655-4588r

Iran president: Islam is the solution

TEHRAN -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said humanity suffers from arrogant and corrupt governments, stressing Islam was the solution to the world's suffering.

Speaking Thursday at the city of Nikashahr in southeast Iran, Ahmadinejad said, "We see injustice everywhere in the world, as decisions to displace peoples and kill civilians are taken easily while arms factories compete to produce more lethal weapons," the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.


He said prosperity and opulence was limited to a small part of the world "as the majority of peoples are oppressed and live in poverty and great need."

"Certain big powers incite wars and strife in order to keep their arms factories going and go as far as imposing a ban on food and medicine against peoples who refuse to surrender to their hegemony and arrogance," Ahmadinejad said in an apparent reference to the United States and the West.


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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:10 AM
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1. Blah, blah, blah
We've heard the "god" argument before, and it causes more problems than it solves.
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:10 AM
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2. Just another right wingnut.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:26 AM
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3. US "pResident" Bush: "Christianity is the solution"
You are either with us, or you are godless evil scum who must be eradicated at Armageddon.

Have a nice day.
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:27 AM
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32. YUP-git 2 idiot Religious Fundamentalist govts. fighting--no one wins
everyone ends up dead because the word "tolerance" and "compromise" aren't in their fundamentalist vocabularies--
Each wants to eradicate the other while each claims the want to help the other to "go to heaven".
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Hyernel Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:35 AM
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4. WRONG!
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 11:37 AM by Hyernel
Enlightened secularism, education, science and intellectual honesty is the solution.

If more fundy Islam is where Iran is heading, perhaps we should glass them now.

Earth's genepool needs cleaning. There are far too many smelly turds floating around. (I'm looking at you, Falwell and Dobson!!)

:evilgrin:
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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:19 PM
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9. I suspect the younger generation has less interest in
religious fundamentalism in Iran. My fear is this nutbar is going to cause a war and a great many will die - especially Iranians.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:42 AM
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5. The teachings of all religions
have good ideas-looking after those who are less fortunate, treating each other fairly, not judging, being tolerant, etc. etc. Trouble is that the teachings tend to get corrupted by people who twist them to their own ends.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:47 AM
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6. Whether Islam is the way or not is debatable but he did speak some truth
"Certain big powers incite wars and strife in order to keep their arms factories going and go as far as imposing a ban on food and medicine against peoples who refuse to surrender to their hegemony and arrogance," Ahmadinejad said in an apparent reference to the United States and the West.
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BEYOND TREASON Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:09 PM
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7. Can this be confirmed?
"imposing a ban on food and medicine against peoples who refuse to surrender to their hegemony and arrogance," Ahmadinejad said .

Any proof for the above statement being true?
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:36 PM
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11. Google is your friend.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:35 PM
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14. Iraq had sanctions against them for years (e.g. 1990's)
The death rate among the under 5 population was substantially higher during this period than it had been previous to sanctions. Maybe this was true of other age groups too, but I mostly heard about the large increase in child and infant mortality. Bans on various items, including medicine were considered to be a primary cause.

A lot of items were banned under the "dual use" policy (items that were considered to have both civilian and military applications). For example, it was difficult to treat water since chlorine was hard to get under the dual use ban.

The only reason there was a supposed "oil for food" scandal was that food was also under a modified sanction.

Many people think it was one of Clinton's truly reprehensible policies.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:02 AM
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27. And a broken clock tells the right time twice a day n/t
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:05 AM
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29. Yeah Toots thats why he needs nukes.
whatever
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:03 AM
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30. Bush* is that you???
You think it is good we supply 90% of all the impliments of death in the world and start 90% of all the conflicts so we can create and sell more and poor nations only wish to protect themselves. When has Iran ever been an agressor nation?? When did they ever attack their neighbor. America has a consistent record of attacking other nations. virtually every twenty years we attack some poor nation. Almost since the birth of our nation we have been going to war but Iran is bad and the USA is good. Yeah whatever all right....
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:19 PM
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8. You mean "our" Islam, doncha, Mr. President?
Y'know - the "correct" Islam - Shia Islam, not that "other" kind.

Just another loud-mouthed preacher fresh out of ideas.

Idiot.
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 04:18 AM
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26. Iran IS Shi'a. nt
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:32 PM
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10. He seems to be under the delusion that religion and corruption
are mutually exclusive. Theocracies are not the answer.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:37 PM
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12. He's
He pandering to his base.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:53 PM
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13. Never mind they're oppressed by YOUR governments, asshat. n/t
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:18 PM
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15. And you're the precipitate
Those who don't agree with me don't deserve to exist.

Ah, tradition!
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Dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:21 PM
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16. Well that's that sorted out then
:eyes:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 05:59 PM
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17. Okay, then, what's the problem?
Too much freedom? Human rights? :sarcasm:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 06:04 PM
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18. Pat Robertson: Jebus is the answer
:puke:
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 06:17 PM
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19. Iran has problems with these nuts

since Mossadeq is gone. Of course, who removed him ? ...

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:48 PM
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20. Atheism is the solution
Religion is the problem.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:31 PM
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23. actually money drives it.
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 09:32 PM by superconnected
Athiests can be just as corrupt as the religious, with money involved.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:03 AM
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28. As though atheism isn't a religion? lol
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, smells like a duck....
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:03 PM
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21. This guy is sounding more and more like Bush every day...
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:09 PM
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22. This guy is evidentally an apocalyptic maniac
World War III can't happen soon enough for him.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:39 PM
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24. I wonder if god personally encourages the Iranian President the same way
that he encourages Bush? Then god can sit back and snicker at the impending collision and the atheists will inherit the earth.

:evilgrin:
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 09:55 PM
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25. the SUBSTANCE of his speech was not 'islam is the solution'
but really an accurate condemnation of bush policy, but of course the HEADLINE just had to be 'islam blah blah blah.'
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:21 AM
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31. you nailed it !--it IS against the injustices of corrupt Chimpco policies
Islam in the headline to "rally" our Kristchen team against the heathens of the world.
After all, we don't just want their natural resources,
we want to "help" them go to heaven.
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