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Thom Little (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 10:40 PM Original message |
Mother of alleged victim in teacher sex case does not want trial |
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GrumpyGreg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. If it was my son I wouldn't want the trial either. I would just |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It isnt up to you or the boy's folks. The DA makes the decison to go to |
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architect359 (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. To hell with the DA |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. They have to respond to a supeona, so what the DA says, still goes. |
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Porcupine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 02:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. So we destroy the womans life for this? |
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joeunderdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 07:09 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Just curious... |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. Any Man who had done the same would have his life destroyed... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 07:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
43. Yea, how can we destroy her life for this? She is so pretty, |
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pagandem4justice (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
48. Well, there is a question of degree... |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
78. Yeah, I'm sure sure she had to "coerce" him |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
73. Until the law is changed and even then... |
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Andromeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 02:50 AM Response to Reply #5 |
54. All these women??? |
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michaelwb (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 09:29 AM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Really |
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patcox2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
23. "Victims rights" means only when the victim is vindictive? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't blame her |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 12:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I imagine not many rape victims look forward to testifying. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 04:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Her son wasn't a rape victim. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 07:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Some of the victims of molestation by Catholics priests.... |
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WildClarySage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 07:50 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Sorry, but according to the statutes of the law, it *is* rape. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. Whether the law is capable of recognizing it or not, a minor is capable |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 07:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. So, if pedophile gives candy to a six year old, and convinces |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 03:22 AM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Strawman much? |
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Porcupine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. The law acknowledges that if the boy-child kills somebody |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:01 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Well, if he is an adult, why not give him a driving license and |
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Porcupine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:55 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. But he can still be sent to prison for life? How fair is that? |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 03:03 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. What to you have to say about giving 14 year olds the vote? |
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architect359 (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 01:09 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. and yet when he kills |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
75. But he can not be executed for the murder. |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
85. can't equate sex w/ mechanical devices, civic duties, or drugs |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 10:39 AM Response to Reply #45 |
74. Some kids commit crimes under cover of law |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 03:00 AM Response to Reply #34 |
55. it's actually not a reality of life that such a person can give consent |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 03:31 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I hear plenty of crappy music played by people in their 40s and 50s, too. |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 05:12 AM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Well, "the level of informedness |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 04:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
62. They are calling it what it is |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 07:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. Statutory rape. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 03:32 AM Response to Reply #41 |
59. See my post #57 for why you need to apologize. NT. |
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Porcupine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 11:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. No more than my brother was. Very similiar situations. |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 04:22 AM Response to Reply #46 |
63. You know, I was thinking |
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pagandem4justice (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
49. He is a rape victim |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 03:38 AM Response to Reply #49 |
60. There's scant evidence that he was coerced into anything. |
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AtTheEndOfTheDay (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #60 |
76. Exactly. |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 02:41 AM Response to Reply #9 |
53. Agreed |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 07:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Every case is different |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 08:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I wouldn't force ANY rape victim to testify |
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gordonlamb (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 04:37 AM Response to Original message |
8. Can't children testify via videotape? |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
30. Does that make it acceptable? |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
10. i think this is a very unusual case, and i think the parents know what's |
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WildClarySage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 07:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Are you seriously suggesting that the appearance of the rapist |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Statutory rape is not the same as forcible rape |
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WildClarySage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 08:51 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Yeah and five year olds have been convinced that having sex |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. The law tries to make black or white something that has shades of gray |
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WildClarySage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. My personal experience tells me otherwise, |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:32 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. well said WildClarySage |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. You Don't Know the Details of This Case |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:35 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. And my personal experience tells me the opposite |
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WildClarySage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. No, but saying that it's not rape since the perpetrator is attractive |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:58 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Which I don't see above |
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WildClarySage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:11 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. "other than in the posting of her picture" |
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Sin (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. 14 year old boy hot blond teacher. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. I take it you became immune to that on your 18th birthday |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 04:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
64. Having worked with some abused kids |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #64 |
80. Absolutely agree - No teacher should ever get involved with a student |
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400Years (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 10:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. a 15 year old is very different from a 5 year old |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
86. Why should she be considered psychologically disturbed? |
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kitkatrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. Okay fine. Let's flip the script. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Obviously not the same situation at all |
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kitkatrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Oh, obviously. |
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michaelwb (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Head exploding. |
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kitkatrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Oh, I never even thought of that one. |
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michaelwb (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 10:03 AM Response to Reply #40 |
71. Ha! |
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DarbyUSMC (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
87. Dear Head Exploding, |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 04:38 AM Response to Reply #35 |
65. Yet the age of consent |
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lolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Well, #1 Reason . . |
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kitkatrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 06:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. So pregnancy makes the difference |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 05:59 AM Response to Reply #39 |
67. Pregnancy? How about she gives the boy an STD like AIDS??.. |
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kitkatrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 09:53 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Uh, I'm on your side here. |
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lolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 08:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
92. Read the post |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 07:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. In any rape case, if someone gets pregnant, that opens up |
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pagandem4justice (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 12:54 AM Response to Reply #10 |
50. Yes, kids that age think about sex |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 03:53 AM Response to Reply #50 |
61. I don't think that anyone is arguing that a young man can't be raped. |
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architect359 (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 10:25 AM Response to Reply #61 |
72. I agree with what you're saying but |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #61 |
77. The law sees a difference. Statutory rape and forcible rape. |
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kamtsa (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
70. Victim? |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
79. It's obvious many here have never been 15 year old boys. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Just cause the kid wants it, doesn't mean it should be done. |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. If you expect a 15 year old boy to turn down sex with an attractive woman, |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 07:40 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. I would no expect him to turn down the sex. But I would also not expect |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
81. This is ridiculous. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Maybe we should make the age of consent to zero. Just to make |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Or maybe we could make it 35 just to make you happy. |
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olddad56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
88. It takes a special teacher to be willing to tutor the boy ..... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 07:41 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Well, she should be just as happy to tutor other inmates, |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
93. And check out this little (double standard) tune from Garth Brooks... |
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666 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-05 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
94. A Different Perspective |
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