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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:34 AM
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Western white woman a suicide bomber
Western white woman a suicide bomber
By Anthony Browne, Brussels Correspondent

MIREILLE, who was born in Belgium to a white, middle-class Christian family, blew herself to pieces last month in a suicide attack against American troops near Baghdad.
In one of the most extraordinary tales of Islamic radicalisation, she is thought to be the first white Western woman to carry out a suicide bombing.

Belgian investigators, who arrested 14 people associated with her, are keeping the 38-year-old woman’s true identity secret, but details have started to emerge. She was from the southern Belgian town of Charleroi, married to a Moroccan and converted to an extreme form of Islam.

“This is how she came into contact with the organisation which allowed her to become a fighter for jihad,” said Glenn Audenaert, the federal police director. Her Belgian documents show that she travelled with her husband to Iraq. On November 9 she blew herself up in a car bomb attack on a US military convoy, killing — according to conflicting reports — either only herself, or six people. Her Belgian passport was near by. Her husband was killed by American troops in a separate incident.

<SNIP>

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-1898856,00.html

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:36 AM
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1. BushCo is uniting the world in hatred of America...
Bang-up job you're doing, Georgie.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:15 AM
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6. Gee, haven't heard THIS ONE in the US msm. Odd.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:36 PM
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16. They're too busy covering missing white women in Aruba.
eom
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:41 PM
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19. He has always claimed to be the 'great uniter'.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:38 AM
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2. I've just become the "profile" - white, female of western european
descent.

So, was she doing this for the jihad or because "Her husband was killed by American troops in a separate incident?"




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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:19 AM
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10. I knew this was coming. eom
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:45 AM
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3. Interesting.
You know, I think if someone were to look closely at this headline, and compare it to the headline in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1958233

We'd go a long way toward understanding cultural bias.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:08 AM
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4. Does this headline imply
that all other suicide bombers are a race other than white (people)? I am under the impression that Iraqis are Caucasian (White race)?

No?

180
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:22 AM
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7. That melanin is getting harder and harder to mearsure. n/t
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:22 AM
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8. Yes, it does.
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 09:26 AM by Benhurst
If the Iraqis are not white, then neither are the Palestinians nor the Israelis.

The is a grotesque example of racism at its worst.

Bottom line: does the skin color of the bomber really matter? What was her grievance? What motivated her? Those are the important questions.

Goebbels would be proud.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:47 AM
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11. Obviously, she hates freedom. And The Baby Jesus. And Christmas. n/t
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:30 AM
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13. "Grievance?" Not the issue in this case, I think.
It's the zeal of the convert -- like John Lindh, who scolded his Yemeni hosts for being insufficiently Islamic by his lights. More like a pathology than a grievance.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:14 AM
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5. This explains why my blonde, bue eyed Cybill Shepard-looking sister
gets a body pat-down at the airport every time she flies.

Or maybe not.
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:26 AM
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9. I'd hit it



(inside joke for the Farkers onboard)
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:56 AM
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12. I knew this would happen eventually, this genie wont go back in its bottle
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:40 AM
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14. "Her Belgian passport was near by."
How convenient. Wasn't M. Atta's passport (9/11) conveniently found also?
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:04 PM
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15. Heh, I'd love to see how Faux tries to spin this
You know, since cable "news" is so concerned about Where the White Women At. But we know where she is, and she's a terraist murder bomber! Maybe they'd say she was just an innocent brainwashed by swarthy, evil heathens. :sarcasm:

Ah, never mind...they'd definitely go with the terraist angle, she's from Belgium which is practically France to them...
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:40 PM
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17. *snort* "Where the White Women At..."
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:37 PM
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18. Hehe
Wish I could take credit for it, but I got it from this article. Hilarious, but kinda depressing at the same time cause it's so true.

http://www.thepoorman.net/2005/06/11/nbc-cnn-announce-merger/
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:58 AM
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20. Belgian Woman Identified As an Iraq Bomber
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/01/AR2005120100668.html


A woman reads Belgium's newspaper 'La Derniere Heure' that headlines 'This is our Belgian Kamikaze killed in Iraq' and shows a picture of Muriel Degauque from the southern city of Charleroi, Belgium, in Brussels, Thursday Dec. 1, 2005. Belgians were trying to come to terms Thursday with the news that a working class woman from an industrial southern city had turned from a "nice" shop assistant into a suicide bomber who blew herself up in Iraq. (AP Photo/Geert Vanden Wijngaert)


Belgian Woman Identified As an Iraq Bomber

By RAF CASERT
The Associated Press
Thursday, December 1, 2005; 1:40 PM

MONCEAU-SUR-SAMBRE, Belgium -- Authorities have identified a woman who carried out a suicide attack against a U.S. patrol in Iraq as a 38-year-old Belgian who had two marriages to radical Muslim men.

Muriel Degauque, who grew up near the industrial city of Charleroi, entered Iraq from Syria last month and carried out a suicide bombing against U.S. troops. She was the only one killed in the blast.

Her mother, Liliane Degauque, told Belgian TV networks that her daughter was "so nice" _ but began to change when she married an Algerian man and turned to Islamic fundamentalism.

The case underscored the growing reach of international terrorism.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/01/AR2005120100668.html
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:58 AM
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21. Fuck them and their fucking waffles. n/t
:sarcasm:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:58 AM
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22. THIS is what's become of Valerie Bertinelli?
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 05:24 PM by IanDB1





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fbahrami Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:58 AM
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23. ongoing oppresion
finally turns rational people into crazies.

just saying "fuck them" never solves problems.

what bush co did after 9/11 was to in effect say "fuck them", instead of looking for the root of the problem (which is obvious - Empire).
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:58 AM
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26. Yes - those Belgians are their
dreams of empire.

The only way to stop Belgium's march to world domination is suicide attacks.

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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:58 AM
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24. UK: The girl who went from baker's assistant to Baghdad bomber

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-1900483,00.html

SHE came from an ordinary family in an industrial Belgian town. She used to sell baguettes in a bakery, and worked as a waitress in a café. She showed the rebelliousness of a typical teenager, but even in their worst dreams her parents never imagined that Muriel Degauque would end her life by blowing herself up in a suicide bomb attack against American troops in Iraq.

The story of the 38-year-old Belgian’s journey from baker’s assistant to Baghdad bomber, making her the first Western woman suicide bomber, emerged in shocking detail yesterday as her parents tried to make sense of her life.

Jean and Liliane Degauque, a former crane operator and medical secretary, said that they had watched their daughter’s gradual transition from Christian to Islamic zealot, and feared the worst when they saw the TV news on Tuesday.

Muriel moved from Charleroi to Brussels, which has a large Islamic community. She married and divorced a Turkish man, and had a long relationship with an Algerian, who converted her to Islam in 2001. Three years ago she married Issam Goris, who was born in Belgium to Moroccan parents, and followed him to Morocco.


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Hyernel Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:58 AM
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25. More proof that "Belgium" is the worst swear word in the Universe!
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 06:31 PM by Hyernel
:smoke:
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:58 AM
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27. sounds awful John-Gibson-ish to me..
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Hyernel Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:58 AM
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28. Senator!!
No it's actually Douglas Adams-ish.

Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, that is. BELGIUM!!!
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:58 AM
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29. Monte Python did a skit
about Belgians oh so many years ago.
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