Kerry says he still wants to be president

[sabra]

http://www.abc6.com/engine.pl?station=wlne&id=17995&template=breakout_story_local_news.shtml&dateformat=%25M+%25e,%25Y

Kerry says he still wants to be president
WASHINGTON (AP) November 17,2005

Senator John Kerry says losing last year's election hasn't soured him on wanting to be president.

Asked if he wanted to run again in 2008, Kerry says it's too early to say. But he added: (quote) "Would I like to be president? Yes, obviously."

Kerry made the comments today on C-N-N.
The senator says he won't base his future presidential ambitions on whether other Democrats like Hillary Clinton join the race. During the interview, Kerry also said his vote authorizing President Bush to use military force was a mistake.

He says he'd change his vote knowing what he does today.

[libbygurl]

1. Why doesn't he let Teresa Heinz K run instead? She tells it like it is...

...unlike him!

[northzax]

10. cause she can't

there's that little constitution thing in the way.

[libbygurl]

11. Just a rhetorical comment/question, really. JK had his chance,

and didn't make the best of it. THK was the fighter of the two of them!

[SammyWinstonJack]

59. Well aside from the fact that he actually DID win and it was stolen

from him, through election fraud, that is.

"JK had his chance, and didn't make the best of it." Kerry said he wanted to be President, he didn't say he was running, he said it was too soon to decide. Where is it written that a Presidential candidate should only get ONE shot at the Presidency? Sheesh! Too bad that didn't apply to Nixon!

[padia]

68. 2nd chances

look @ Ronny. Hell I don't think the Fing R's care who they run

[libbygurl]

86. Where is it written in my post that a pres candidate should only get ONE

shot at the Presidency? Getting derailed here, it seems. I'm referring only to Kerry's wish to be president, since he didn't seem to have that wish last year when he had the chance, apparently lacked a real desire to be THE PRESIDENT, which he really was - didn't fight against the vote fraud, conceded so early, didn't fight the SwiftBoat liars for their lies, etc.

What's Nixon got to do with my post?

[bitchkitty]

100. Then he should not have conceded. Maybe

eventually he would have had no choice, but he folded like a wet noodle as soon as the "results" were in.

[tuvor]

2. Here we go.

:popcorn:

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

58. I hear ya...part of me wants to jump in, and part of me...

...wants to S.T.F.U....

Guess which part of me won?

:evilgrin:

:patriot:

[Seabiscuit]

108. Yup. I'm sittin' this one out too. Nothing we say makes any difference

when it comes to JK - just a whole lot of flamin' goin' on.

[AspenRose]

107. Ooooh, a flamebait thread!

Just in time for the spirit of Thanksgiving!

Pass the :popcorn: Charlie Brown!

[Pam-Moby]

3. OMG

:popcorn: :popcorn:

[Mass]

4. AP superior reporting - half a line in the interview that was about

Iraq. And that becomes the most important item.

Always the same crap.

[wiley]

5. Why did he play into that trap?

Did he say, "But I'm not willing to fight for it"?

[geek tragedy]

53. Because he always falls into these kinds of traps.

Remember his Grand Canyon moment.

A lot of people want to be Prez, John. It's just not in your destiny.

[obxhead]

6. It's not like my vote matters anyway, but

I would like to see an outspoken, intelligent, and "for the real people" president in 08. Kerry still doesn't fit that bill in my eyes, but we still have a long way to go until 08.

All in all though, my vote is BS anyway.

[Barkley]

93. Hackett and Sheehan in '08

I voted for Kerry in '04 but not in '08.
I'll only vote Democratics in '08 if the
ticket includes progressives and people who
have spoken out against Bush and the war in Iraq.

I voted for Clark in primaries and I'd vote for
him again. I'll vote for Boxer, Conyers, McKinney

But I won't vote for or support Kerry, Clinton, Edwards, DiFi, or Liebermann

[oregonindy]

7. Please insert my rant about his immediate concession.

Its like hitting a baseball down the right field line and without even seeing if the umpire says it goes foul he's walking off the field to the dugout saying "i'm out"


Go be a good senator Kerry and leave the presidential arena.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

8. he's welcome to it.

i certainly don't have any objections. How's tomorrow sound, John? Welcome aboard!

[lovuian]

9. Sorry but its kinda late but I bet you would like to be!!!

We need someone who give us a 68% poll not a 48%

[ShockediSay]

12. Has there ever been a national candidate who lost

come back and win in a subsequent presidential election (in relatively modern history)?

Methinks one bite at the apple should be it.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

13. didn't Nixon do that?

i may be mistaken.

[BeyondGeography]

16. He did; but he skipped a cycle

Lost in '60, won in '68.

last time we ran the same candidate in back-to-back races (which is rare), it was Stevenson...That didn't work out too well.

[Mr. Peanut]

36. Yeah, Nixon eventually won

And look what we got. They're still releasing his lies to the American public (Cambodia).

No. This time we want to WIN. No Hillary. No Kerry.

Mark Warner for prez '08.

http://www.draftmarkwarner.com/index.htm

[pokercat999]

77. Puleezzzzzz I've had discussions with MW he's

not what we need.
Talk about a man with his finger in the air, that's Mark. Very right leaning, way right of center on the road to DINOship.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

94. ah yes. skipped a cycle. thanks. n/t

[haroldgiowa]

46. Grover Cleveland NT

[NVMojo]

14. I still wish he was my President!

[FighttheFuture]

79. Take it furthur... I wish GORE was my President!

Screw Kerry! He's hasn't done his "walkabout" like Gore has.

[fedupinBushcountry]

15. As usual

that was not the whole quote. Geez

KERRY: It is honestly too early to tell. … Would I like to be president? Yes, obviously. I ran for the job. I think I would have made a good president for America, a strong president. I would have had us in a very different place than we are today.

[Mojorabbit]

17. There is something about his voice that puts me to sleep

I tried to watch him this afternoon and could not. I don't know what it is... there just does not seem to be any passion in the way he speaks though it is there in the words but at least today I could not get past the monotone.

[Marlie]

24. I agree

He's boring & hard to listen to. McCain was on before him and as
much as I despise him, I listened to McCain. When Kerry came on, I
found myself drifting, not really interested. Maybe it's because
we've all heard it before but I actually don't think he connects
with the average guy. He shouldn't run in 2008 - it's too soon.

Every time I see him I think of the streets we walked, doorbells we
rang, campaigning for him. I was so desperate for him to win, we gave
so much more than we could afford both in time and money. He gave in too soon and went about his very rich, fulfilled life and left the
rest of us behind to suffer with four more years of Bush.

I need a long time out from Kerry.

[karynnj]

41. I love Kerry's voice and eloquence

I found McCain cloying, an actor playing sincere

[countmyvote4real]

18. Really?

I think not, at least not for me.

My chosen candidate would REALLY want to be POTUS and challenge the voting frauds rather than yield or defer or submit to bogus election returns. He should go away and contemplate his votes on the Iraq war powers.

However, I will gladly vote for Al Gore, but that vote will not be properly documented and counted either.

[raysr]

19. How does that go?

"Want" in one hand........

[Hyernel]

20. Sorry John...You had your shot.

Quitters don't get second chances.

[politicasista]

21. Eating our own will help us in 06 and 08

Yawn. :boring: :boring: :boring:

[Eikon]

22. Kerry is about "our own" as Lieberman. n/t

[radio4progressives]

25. I just figured out why Kerry threw in the towell so damn quick .....

can you say Fallujah?

:nuke:

http://www.rainews24.rai.it/ran24/inchiesta/video/fallu...

[Carolab]

27. Watch it, you'll get flamed.

I posted this last week after I watched the documentary.

I came to the same conclusion. It was Fallujah. I think it was quite possibly planned all along, too, since * had to "win" for the attack to go forward. Booby trap.

[Mojorabbit]

33. Link doesn't work?

I don't know what falluja would have to do with the election?

[MH1]

48. Wow. Follow Senate votes much? n/t

[Eikon]

95. He may vote our way more often than Joe...

but that has nothing to do with the way he ran his campaign (if you can call it that) and rolled over with massive fraud in Ohio. Now he wants to claim the election was stolen (then deny it!?), give me a break. Forget this skull and bones brother already, we were duped.

[maximovich]

65. puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeze

Those two are no way near similiar, unless of course... nevermind.

[antonialee839]

29. Maybe someone should explain that to Kerry. He pretty much

made himself a Murtha sandwich today.

[confludemocrat]

75. Again, w/ "the eating our own" BS

Yet Kerry supporters call anti-IWR senators "pacifists", and as MH1 does below in a Bill O'Reilly impersonation, calls AmericaBlog a "trash site". "Eating our own"?! Is that all ya got?

[0rganism]

23. Heck, I'd like to be president too, doesn't mean it's gonna happen

but if my opposition came out with a televised mockumentary infomercial slandering me three months before the election, you can bet I'd show up at every single affilliate station with a herd of howler monkeys and baboons to demand equal time.

"Unleash the fury, my pets!"

"Yeeeaaarrrrrggggghhhhhh!"

"Target the BMWs first!"

"Oook ooook ook!" "Yeeeeeaaaaarrrghhhh!"

August would not be a quiet month. Hint. Hint.

[karynnj]

42. Demand equal time ?

Equal time no longer exists.

[0rganism]

64. Demand fair elections? Demand honest vote counting?

Take your pick. You gotta start somewhere. Never underestimate the persuasive power of a dozen angry baboons rampaging through the lobby of a network affilliate.

Remember, Sinclair DID offer Kerry the opportunity for a rebut, which he declined -- presumably because it would have been on their terms. I think it was a mistake. Such matters need to be attacked directly.

[jayctravis]

26. I think Kerry would make a very good President.

I don't think he campaigns well, but that's a completely different skill.

[FighttheFuture]

81. I don't... too close to the Wash establishment and what a quitter!

He had his chance. IF he at least would have fought in Ohio, pulled out the crap win or loose, or not capitulated in the first hours...

oh, there's his idiotic statement about if he would vote for the war knowing what he knew now...

oh, the ignoring the swift boat liars until it was a shitstorm...

Kerry's toast as far as being prez. The best thing about Kerry was Edwards, and I do not think Edwards would align wiht that looser again.

[More Than A Feeling]

28. John Kerry needs to stop.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/11/john-kerry-undercuts-murtha.html

I had no problem with him while he was running, but Kerry needs to get on the "get a plan to get out soon" bandwagon like, yesterday. And shut the F*** up until he does.

[MH1]

47. Bullshit. That's a trash site.

Kerry offered a plan to "get out soon" on 10/26 at Georgetown, followed up by a bill in the Senate, and a billboard/petition campaign to pull 20,000 troops right after the December elections.

If you want to pit Dems against Dems (gee, why would AmericaBlog want to do that?), you could say that Murtha was undercutting Kerry, who's plan is much more likely to be actually implemented. But since Murtha and Kerry are friends with a great deal of respect for each other, it's highly unlikely that either one was trying to "undercut" the other. It is just sites like AmericaBlog that are constantly trying to undermine good Democrats for whatever their reasons are.

[confludemocrat]

73. Oh yeah Bill O'..., I mean MH1, AmericaBlog is a left-wing "smear site"!

Sheesh, you Kerry people are something else.

[wellst0nev0ter]

30. Welp, It's Either Him For '08

Or one of those stupid red state governors. I think I'll give him another shot.

[Fovea]

31. If he got behind the GAO report

he might still get to be...

Run again? Not so much.

[karynnj]

43. Even if they proved that no one in the US except Bush and Cheney

voted Bush, the constitution does not give the Presidency to Kerry or even to the Democrats. It would lead to impeaching the 2 - IF that suceeds we get President Dennis Haskett (sp?), if he's complicit - President Ted Stevens.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

32. If he gets there it won't be with the help of my vote

I simply don't trust him.

[IndianaGreen]

34. Kerry should run simply because we might need him to stop Hillary

Hillary remains unrepentant about her prowar votes and she is solidly standing alongside Holy Joe.

Kerry has the financial means to compete against Hillary, a woman whose nomination would spell disaster in November.

[confludemocrat]

74. Yep he could run w/ his $51 million left over from "taking a dive" in 2004

[depakid]

35. Welp, if he'd fought back instead of emulating Dukakis

He would have been.

A little late now for those aspirations....

[Raine]

37. Too bad

he didn't act like he really wanted to be President in 2004 when he had the chance. x(

[MarkTwain]

38. Go Away, John....

... just Go Away. And take Hiliary with you.

[Kukesa]

44. Mr. Twain, I gotta agree with you . . . n/t

[SomewhereOutThere424]

54. LOL

Hiliary....typo, or level of fact? Hmmmm...

[AuntiBush]

39. I'd Vote for Senator KERRY in a New York Second!

Any day, over Hillary Clinton. Kerry for 2008. Can't think of any other as intelligent, fair-minded, honest & best for the job to bring out country back to normalcy, then Kerry.

He's the only one I'd vote for today, tomorrow & in 2008. Hope he runs!

[DaveColorado]

40. I worked on his campaign in 2004

I will not give another dime, nor lift another finger for Kerry.

[Kukesa]

45. Me neither, Dave, me neither. n/t

[JudyM]

50. Same here. A lot of hours, and money from my pocket, then capsized. n/t

[xxqqqzme]

61. I hear that - been there

done that - fooled me once, shame on you...fooled me twice, shame on.....???uumm....??? can't fool me again.

[Lorien]

112. I feel the same way

his all too swift concession-among other problems-put the nail in that coffin.

[Spiffarino]

49. Why not? He won. n/t

[Deja Q]

51. Remember the debates, folks.

He was as staged as Hillary Duff's SNL career.

Even I could have retorted *'s allegations and idiotic comments better than Kerry during those debates, and I've got the social graces of a paranoid skunk addicted to amphetamines.

We need real hard, constant, and consistent proof that we should trust him with ANYTHING, and given how the repukes slammed him in 2004, it's hardly going to be more difficult for them to do so again!

Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, shame on me. (it really isn't "duh, um, uh, can't git fooled again.")

[closeupready]

52. I like Kerry, but he had his chance and he blew it.

He ran a bad campaign, and we need somebody like Dean to run.

[Sven77]

55. hes a phoney candidate

that skull and bones fraud should never be elected to anything again. he had his chance to prove himself, gave up without a fight. cared nothing to investigate the voter fraud. i hope its not hilary either or condi rice for that matter.
edit: it has to be a anti-war candidate.

[maximovich]

66. phoney? I Don't Think So....

You know what phoney looks like? Just look at the GOP. That's phoney.

[Odin2005]

91. People are still bitching about this?

This conspiracy theory about the skull and bones society is about as stupid as the anti-Freemason hysteria in the early 1800s. :banghead:

[SomewhereOutThere424]

56. Nice try, bub. If you'd wanted to be president in '04, we wouldn't be...

Subjected to the horrors of hurricane katrina, four more years of iraq war, four more years of environmental failure. Four more years of insurrection within the democratic ranks and hatred among party members. We wouldn't be subjected to a possibility treasonist, criminal bastards may not go to jail while Cindy Sheehan was arrested a night in my own state which should support freedom and not deny it.

We wouldn't be subjected to more of our soldier's deaths, we wouldn't be subjected to the tears of mr. Murtha, who almost gave up one of HIS purple hearts for a countryman (would you, Mr kerry? You could have given up 3 of them to be the president, our president). We wouldn't need to be subjected to the democratic party cannibilizing its own interests to be able to think we have a chance at re-election. We wouldn't be subjected to falsified voting machines. We may have even gone after osama, and caught him.

Maybe Kerry is the right man for the job, but that position was taken in '04. Now what we need is a janitor for office...not a man with ambitions and dreams we can no longer use, in the aftermath of a ruined country. Which, largely in part, was due to the fact Mr Kerry conceded to electoral fraud he could have easily won against, being an attorney for over 20 years as he was.

The presidency isn't a nice fancy title mr Kerry. The presidency is a responsibility. You failed us the right to have a decent president in '04, I say we fail him the right to be our president in '08.

John Edwards, Howard Dean, and MANY other individuals who didn't quit the course to protect the american people, are far better suited. Let's not ignore our assets in the way of a man who fed us false promises of not being trodden over when the voting places closed, only to be trodden over 3 days afterwards.

You may want to be president in '08 mr Kerry...but it won't be our president. Atleast, it won't be mine. You gave up that right by selling us out.

[BlueInPhilly]

57. Mark Warner for President!!!

He's our best chance, guys! HE REALLY IS! Please, Hillary and JK, please think of your party before yourselves - you guys just have too much baggage the SwiftDicks would have a field day!

Mark Warner at 70% approval rating from the Confederate Capital? That's a feat!

[MarsThe Cat]

60. too bad, so sad-

you had your chance, and you rolled over.

buh-bye, now...

and take the rest of your dlc buddies with you.

[Critters2]

62. I'd like to be the Queen of England

but I just don't have what it takes--that "Windsor" last name. Kerry's missing some things necessary to make his dream come true too.

Life sucks!

:nopity:

[brentspeak]

84. If you don't think Kerry is a good senator

and needs to go away, then I think you are definitely on the wrong board. Or maybe get a brain scan.

[MarsThe Cat]

90. if he voted to authorize the iraq war resolution-

then NO i don't think he is a good senator.

if you think that war-mongers make good senators, then perhaps freerepublic.com might be a better forum for you...

[redqueen]

63. He should be already. But, again, they stole it.

"Presidential politics is a vicious business, even for rich white men, and anybody who gets into it should be prepared to grapple with the meanest of the mean. The White House has never been seized by timid warriors. There are no rules, and the roadside is littered with wreckage. That is why they call it the passing lane. Just ask any candidate who ever ran against George Bush -- Al Gore, Ann Richards, John McCain -- all of them ambushed and vanquished by lies and dirty tricks. And all of them still whining about it.

That is why George W. Bush is President of the United States, and Al Gore is not. Bush simply wanted it more, and he was willing to demolish anything that got in his way, including the U.S. Supreme Court. It is not by accident that the Bush White House (read: Dick Cheney & Halliburton Inc.) controls all three branches of our federal government today. They are powerful thugs who would far rather die than lose the election in November."

From: Fear and Loathing, Campaign 2004

[twaddler01]

67. He shouldn't run again

Too many iffy's he was given during last election made him loose. We need some one grounded and someone who isn't afraid to shove things down the repugs throats!

[padia]

69. I was an ABBB dem

Dean was my primary candidate. But I believe that the country has shifted far enough to the right that only rich white men will have a legitimate shot @ the White House. And he better have the balls that Sen. Boxer seems to be carrying around and have a very clear message. It will be the party's job to teach the population how to connect the dots, I think that is the way to break the short-sighted hot button emotionalism that the repugs use as a campaign strategy.

[wordpix2]

70. he blew it---he's on Sen. Intel Comm and didn't bother digging into

the BushCo, WHIG and Office of Special Plan LIES.

He would be better than BushCo but I plan to support a pres. candidate who voted AGAINST the WAR from the BEGINNING. That is a person who's ahead of the curve and is getting independent information to get at the TRUTH.

[karynnj]

71. no he's not on the Senate Intelligence committee

Edwards and Lieberman were

[nickn777]

72. Why didn't he say he made a mistake voting for the war LAST year???

[degreesofgray]

76. Most unsurprising headline of the year

most anyone who has run for president wants to be president--otherwise they wouldn't have campaigned in the first place.

Watching C-SPAN and C-SPAN2 last night, as the GOP rolled through its laughably senseless budget and tax bills, made me wonder what would be happening now in a Kerry administration with this awful Congress. I just hope 2006 will see some changes.

[conflictgirl]

78. I wish he would have figured that out a year ago

We really could've used some of that determination and desire to be President a year ago instead.

[VegasWolf]

80. Pigs still want to fly too! nt

[goodhue]

82. bully for him

There are a lot of folks who would obviously like to be President.

[PatGund]

83. If he wanted to be president....

Than he should have RAN like he wanted the job. I voted for him, but damnit, that was the most lackluster campaign I had seen.

Sorry, you had your chance

Tell you what. Go after those "Swift Boat Vet" liars so hard and powerful that they will *never* stir their ugly lying heads again. You know, like you SHOULD have when they spouted their lies? Then we can talk.

[sandrakae]

85. That's fine with me, because I still want him to be President.

I deserve the kind of President John Kerry would be.

[WhiteTara]

87. he left us to drown in the river once

why the hell would we allow him to be stuffed down our throats a second time? Next time it will go to a floor fight. He was a dismal failure.

[superconnected]

88. It took me months to get used to him.

He didn't correct his monotone voice until the end and he left himself too open for attacks by the republicans - ie them labling him a flip flop. He should have retaliated and used it against them, calling THEM flipflops. It would have diffused the term.

Yes, he failed us miserable. But still, Anybody But Bush. I'd vote for him again if I had to. I'm sure we all would. Other candidates have run twice and won the 2nd time before.

He is famous now which does give him an edge over no name candidates.

[superconnected]

89. btw, we should learn from dirty politics

label the guy running next time and stick with it.

He didn't create a definite image of bush to keep resounding back, like bush did him.

Bush was an easy target. labeling him as a massive spender, or bloodthirsty, or a crook would have all been true, and would have defined bush publically.

Now the next candidate has to come along and start at the beginning since kerry didn't leave a road for exposing bushs character.

[WhiteTara]

92. I'd rather have Al Gore, but

Barbara Boxer is definitely gearing up as a thunderbolt and she still has a year to build up more of a base.

[stlsaxman]

101. It took me months to FORGIVE Kerry for folding immediately...

and i don't know if i truly HAVE forgiven him, yet.

I prefer someone whose integrity is unquestionable, like Al Gore. He's been slimed to death and lied about extensively by the MSM, and Cici Connelly in particular, and now it's accepted that everything that was said about Gore was untrue.

[lwbaby]

96. Prolly too soon to call for Elliot Spitzer but ..

Maybe he could skip Gov of NY (pretty much assured here if he wants it) and go straight to the White House.

Think about it. He is quickly becoming a household name, at least in many states and he just has this warrior for the common man aura about him.

Yeah, he has that kinda EastCostThing going on but it's not pompous like Kerry. More down to earth.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

125. I've thought about it plenty...

and take my little fantasy as far as Spitzer/Fitzgerald or the other way around!

[currents]

97. He has his moments, but is a bore and too PC.

I supported him before he ever won a primary all the way to the end. Gave lots of my money.

Still don't want him to run again.

I don't like Hillary either.

[memory]

98. Then he should have made sure all the votes were counted

like he promised he would! I will not support him in a primary again. He knows the election was stolen and he doesn't want to look like a "sore loser". Well, we have lost our country because of it!:grr:

[JudyM]

113. Good post! Welcome to DU!

:toast:

[0007]

99. cough cough Kerry is good at dodge ball.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

102. Guess he should have waited until a little later to

quit then, huh?

[Name removed]

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[area51]

104. Sorry, Kerry.

Maybe you shouldn't have lied to people when you said you'd stay & make sure all votes were counted. You cut & ran, & now you can go fsck yourself.

[skipos]

105. No more New England nominees. nt

[danalytical]

109. WTH is wrong with New England?

New England and the NorthEast is the power behind the Democratic party. There are more Democrats up here then we know what to do with. John Kennedy was a New Englander. FDR was a New Yorker. I didn't like Kerry at first because he was a little to boring for me, but excitement doesn't run a country. I would vote for Kerry over Hillary any day of the week. Hillary is trying so hard to overcome her Liberal Feminist stigma that she is just another Liberman. Chances are we will see Kerry, Clinton, Clark, Warner, and Richardson in the primaries. I'll take Clark or Kerry out of that group anyday.

I know a lot of you feel let down after Kerry lost, especially after investing so much time, effort, money, and most importantly emotional weight behind him and his campaign. But the people were behind the monkey then, and they seem to be waking up now. It wasn't Kerry's fault. He almost took the presidency in the middle of a war with both houses of Congress GOP controlled. Add in all the energy money that went to the Bush campaign, the fake terror alerts, the free air time of the presidency, and it's amazing Kerry almost won.

It was Gore in 2000 that dropped the ball. It's true the elction was stolen from him, but he should have had a much larger margin of victory. If he did, then there would be no contesting the results at all. gore was VP and CLinton was very popular, yet he LOST? That was the real downturn for us. It was all downhill after that, until now. I thin Kerry has a shot in '08. I'll vote for him.

[skipos]

111. Here is what is wrong...

Our three best 1st time performances of the last 6 dems to run:
Clinton (Arkasas) 370
Carter (Georgia) 297
Gore (Tennessee) 266

Three worst:
Kerry (Massachusettes) 252
Dukakis (Massachusettes) 111
Mondale (Minnesota) 13

The northern candidate hasn't worked well for us lately, why keep trying it?

I know many people here want to talk about how we can't win any elections (even though we just did in CA, NJ and VA) but regardless, many people feel we lost the last two elections by one state. Why not use the "homestate rule" to our advantage? Pres candidates have won their homestate almost 90% of the time in the last 40 years. We are crippling ourselves when we nominate people from states we always win.

So lets nominate a P (and hopefully a VP) from a red state that they can realistically win. Every state counts. Hence, no more New England nominees please. I don't advocate running a shitty candidate from the south or anything, but SURELY there is a good candidate from somewhere other than a really, really blue state that we win all the time.

[JudyM]

115. Mondale: not a New Englander, and if Kerry did lose, it was dirty politics

but I like your point about choosing someone from a state we need to win. Why the hell don't we have a better pool to choose from?!

[fshrink]

106. I'm sure he does,

Problem is he doesn't seem willing to risk much to get there. Along with virtually every other candidates by the way. To do what is badly needed today, risks are unavoidable. Political careers will need to be sacrificed or nothing will move on in a democratic manner. Lots of people seem to think it's some kind of a football game where you win the WH and the problem is solved. This is not the case. The US will have to go through cold, hard and deep reform and this will cost. Very few are aware of that. Very few among those who honestly serve are ready to put their career on the line to do that. It will take very courageous individuals and women might be better equipped in this department...

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

110. adenoid_hynkel says he still wishes kerry hadn't been the nominee

he also says he knew when dean lost that we were going to be treated to a play-it-safe superficial campaign with stuff along the lines of john's pathetic motorcycle appearance on the tonight show

dean was robbed, dammit. i'll never have faith in dem primary vpters again for allowing such an obvious power grab by the dlc elite to throw the nomination to an imcompetent bush-enabler like kerry

[rayofreason]

114. If he want's to be President...

...let him run. The voters will decide.

[BlueManDude]

116. I still wanna make whopee with Jenny McCarthy

but that ain't happenin' any time soon.

Sorry John - you let a draft dodger call you a coward - and he got away with it.

[Polemonium]

123. I still want to be an astronaut

I reckon we have about the same odds of success.

[savemefromdumbya]

117. Kerry should be President now! Stolen from him!

[tinfoilinfor2005]

118. Not gonna happen.

I think he's great, but I just don't see it.

[goforit]

119. Go home Kerry!!!..No support here!!

[Meshuga]

120. He has my support if he runs in 2008

I'd love to see him run again.

[wisteria]

121. I can not think of anyone I would want to be President more than Kerry!

If he decides to run I will certainly vote for him! If he doesn't I'll support whoever the candidate is.

[Eurobabe]

122. Wouldn't be prudent

sorry John, move on.

[ThePopulist]

124. Oh please John, bless us again with your presence.....

n/t